Gas or Electric??

Although I prefer gas for stove top, and electric convection for an oven, gas service is more than 300 ft away and would cost about $11,000 to bring to my house, so I'm stuck with all electric for cooking.
However, in my mind, the issue isn't gas vs electricity, or personal safety and health, it's having choices. We all have our preferences, in stove heat source, house heating, personal transportation, and technology gives us many options, but perennial do-gooders want to take away choices, because in their narrow minds and inflated egos, they think they know what's best for everyone.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
-- C. S. Lewis
 
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The house was all gas when I was a kid, when I got married the first house was all gas and my wife hated it. Never really understood why, but when we built our current house, we compromised gas heat, water heater and she got the electric stove.

I hate the cycling on and off with the glass top we have. Too hard to make good, scrambled eggs or omelets as mentioned earlier.

As for the report that came out, I guarantee you this "scientific study" will end up being used and the more progressive states will buy it. From what I saw it was harmful to folks with asthma or other breathing related conditions.

We all know that it is one more way to force everyone to electricity when we are there yet.

From what I read there were some European regulations rolled back because of the lack of capacity on their grid.

Once again, we have to lower our standards / expectations.
 
ameridaddy said:
..."Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
-- C. S. Lewis
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Interesting Lewis quote of which, while a Lewis fan, I was not aware.

Thanks.
 
GypsmJim said:
...But wait!!!, no more cows, no more leather.
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Ahhh... but no more methane, so there's that :eek:

UncleEd said:
Now, what about the plan to outlaw Argyle
socks because they hurt some folks eyes?
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Exactly- what about eye pollution?

As to the gas vs. electric debate, I read of a professional chef who was sceptical about using an electric stove/cooktop, but he said once he got used to it, it was fine. Different strokes, etc.
 
GypsmJim said:
The BIG PROBLEM will come when gas furnaces and hot water tanks are outlawed. My house has lots of gas lines, but no more electrical circuits.
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That was the very first thing I thought of when I started reading about the CPSC edict earlier this week. In different houses over many years we have had both gas and electric heating systems, water heaters, ranges and ovens. I don't remember my wife expressing any preference. We had one house which had a gas air conditioning system (and also a travel trailer with a gas refrigerator). I wonder if those are still made anywhere.

It makes one wonder what is happening to this country. Yesterday, it was ban guns. Today it's ban gas appliances. Of course the real reason has zero to do with consumer safety.
 
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oldbrownhat said:
As to the gas vs. electric debate, I read of a professional chef who was sceptical about using an electric stove/cooktop, but he said once he got used to it, it was fine. Different strokes, etc.
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I went to work for a gas utility in 1980 as a gas serviceman. I retired as a gas meter technician in 2017. I spent a lot of time in restaurants and commercial kitchens. I saw some electric fryers but never electric cook tops or ovens. I met a lot of chefs and line cooks that would drag up and leave if you told them they were cooking on electric from now on.
Older stoves might leak a small amount around the valves. It was a simple 8 minute job to grease all the valves recreating the seal. In the late 90's manufacturers decided people were not to be trusted in servicing parts. Blame court decisions or the fact that things lasted too long. About the time that pilots were eliminated and electronic ignition came in hard, repairable valves went away. The newer seals might last longer but when they die replacements are not to be found.
 
Well if that "Catches on", it will not be long until they think that
#2 fuel oil is dangerous for heating oil and we need to go to electric heating.

I better start stacking coal in the back yard for my old Yureka stove !!
 
mtgianni said:
... I met a lot of chefs and line cooks that would drag up and leave if you told them they were cooking on electric from now on.

Older stoves might leak a small amount around the valves. It was a simple 8 minute job to grease all the valves recreating the seal....The newer seals might last longer but when they die replacements are not to be found.
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The chef comment I read was pretty recent, maybe last year nd I think he had one of the newest inducition stoves. He seemed happy with it, but probably many wouldn't be. I have electric and it's good enough for anything I do.

Re repairability, there's an article in the WaPo about wanting new installations to be electric. Someone commented that their new-ish gas stove had all-digital controls, which made repairs very expensive. Also, if the power went out, you used to be able to still get heat fom the stove because you could light it manually, but the new ones need AC, so you're pooched.

The electrification thing is all very well and good, but I fear we may be shooting ourselves in the foot when the "poop hits the prop" with the grid.
 
I was reading an article yesterday about how the "gas stove" tests were done. A plastic enclosure which totally enclosed the stove was constructed. All of the measurements were made inside of the plastic. How realistic is that? Does every gas stove have a plastic bubble surrounding it? Of course you are going to get high concentration of gases when you trap them in a plastic bubble. I wonder what the tests results would show if the actual situation in a kitchen was used to get the results? More fake science to justify a cause!
 
Nevada Ed said:
Well if that "Catches on", it will not be long until they think that
#2 fuel oil is dangerous for heating oil and we need to go to electric heating.

I better start stacking coal in the back yard for my old Yureka stove !!
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The NY proposal being discussed right now WOULD ban oil heating as of 2030. But you will HAVE to go electric because burning wood is illegal as well.
 
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