Pending demise or pending doom?

I don't know...we just endured the worst flooding since the 20's, and while it was more than a little inconvenient, I never missed a bite. Never did without anything. My wife wasting a couple hours a day bypassing flooded roads to get to work was the biggest impact on us. If I'm going to stockpile anything it will be ammo, because I'm terrified at the thought of those Canadians massing on the border, getting ready to come steal my maple syrup and back bacon.
 
For reasons many will understand it is a matter of not "if" but "when" the bottom falls out for America. Others take comfort in denial and whistling through the graveyard.

It has been my firm belief and prediction that should the majority of the nation awake one morning to find the tap produces no water, the light switch has no electricity as a herald that the whole system is down, and this condition lasts for an extended period of a week or two (less in some areas) with no end in sight, a good portion of the population will be dead inside of the first three months as riot and anarchy will be rampant.

No food, fuel, or medicine when the trucks and trains stop running, and when there's nothing to buy even if the goobermint checks had still somehow managed to be distributed for a while, a collapse back to a decidedly more primitive society and general lawlessness will prevail causing small pockets of folks to band together for mutual survival. The cities will go first, and the comparison to some of the worst dystopian novels and movies will be every day life in a lot of places. Those who "bug out" will find it's generally a fallacy to run off into the woods and live off the land, and those of us that realize we can't run and try to fortify and hold our place as long as possible accept the futility of defending a fixed position from a desperate hoard and are mentally prepared for that.

Paraphrasing something many will recognize . . . for your edification . . .

"When is that gonna happen? People have been saying this forever and our ancestors have already died, but everything is still the same as it was since the creation of the world!"

I've chosen to make more permanent preparations.
Selah . . .




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My fate was sealed 40 years ago.
 
Etched in solid granite truth is that!

PS: I have several as yet uneaten Christmas fruitcakes in the basement. I'll be good for a while.

The Romans invented fruitcake, and still have some on a shelf somewhere! :)

My Sister-in-law makes fantastic "Nut Breads". I think You can live on a good fruit cake for weeks or longer as long as you get 800 calories day and don't get "backed up!" The ones soaked in rum are good medical back-up too. You won't care what's wrong with you!

Ivan
 
Ivan - After all those years on a farm, it was probably a shock for your wife to lose the easy access to food and water, and general self sufficiency that was always taken for granted. Smart of her to think ahead, and to prepare based on your new living situation.

I would caution against friends and neighbors being made aware of her preparations. When food and water gets short, people will start to do stupid things....

Larry
 
Storage space is often a issue. Basements are usually a great place. Do condos have basements? Do you have spaces that can be repurposed such as a large closet?

I hadn't thought about High Rise condos, ours is like a Townhouse/Row house apartment and has a finished basement


Since this is a firearms discussion forum what is your guns and ammunition situation?

Ample, and most likely in violation of fire regulations, if they exist! We don't tempt the neighbors with that kind of information!

As I've gotten older ammo cans full to the top are getting too heavy to carry, that's what they make hand carts for!

Ivan
 
And here I thought it was just another day. NO feelings of impending doom from me; just Tuesday! :)

Y2K was almost 24 years ago...

1972 I was a 10th grader in a Jesuit military high school. During one military science class, the retired Master Sargent explained to a class of 90 sixteen year old boys about the computer problem Y2K presented. This in the days where "Pong" was a computer game.

"You are going to be the 40 year old middle managers and supervisors who will have to fix this before it happens"

Two of the smartest kids in the class went to Cal Tech and MIT for computer science. Neither went beyond a BS in computer science, but both finished their careers very high up in leadership of IBM.

The sharpest kid in the class, whose father was a one armed WWII vet, borrowed every penny he could and invested it in Microsoft when it went public. He has a business degree from Boston College. He became so wealthy he once bought a 4 million dollar home on a golf course in California, tore it down, and put up an 8 million dollar home. He gives our alma mater so much money the school doesn't even say how much he gives, but it's known to be in the millions.
 
I’ve been watching for some kind of collapse since the 1970’s. And so, I’m very sensitive to things that might bring on a collapse. The recent pandemic was very chilling for me. I lost a few family members and friends who bought into the previous administrations decision to chose the economy over public safety. My cousin is a PhD epidemiologist who worked on the “problem” at Washington State University. He told me about the Covid party’s designed to create immunity. He lost 2 colleagues.

What troubles me the most was the division during that period. My own sister didn’t think it was any different than the seasonal flu. We treated the topic as a taboo and just didn’t discuss it……until one of her grandchildren died. It’s the current divisiveness that scares me the most. Whatever happens, the best outcomes will not be realized because of this. The political divide will be preclude the best thinking. There’s a guy at MIT named Dan Kim. He teaches the “engine of success.”

The quality of relationships drives the quality of thinking. The quality of thinking drives the quality of action. The quality of action drives the quality of the results.

And so, we can all have our own opinions, but what really matters is when the s..t hits the fan, we find a way to come together. BTW, I’m a life long republican. Tom H.
 
While it is a National Past Time to blame others for our problems, This thread is about What to do when we're there?

An honest question I have is: Is there a way to keep any/our society moving in a positive direction, once the flushing begins? Do Over the Road Truckers, become like the Yankee Clipper captains of the mid 1800's and go on trading journeys on speculation? Are the American people capable of "Doing Industry" In the midst of a "Greater depression"?

Ivan
 
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