Pending demise or pending doom?
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Ivan the Butcher
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Back at Y2K the trick was pretty easy to have food for my family of 4 (only 2 teens left at home). Now, there's 5 families making 19 mouths to feed clear down to a 6 month old. Where does one draw the line?
As to neighbors; we've only been here 9 years and most neighbors move in 3 to 5 years. I have no problem leaving them to their own ends, and protecting our "savings" from them! There is so much truth and also shame to Rusty's post!
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I had that feeling of impending doom. I had a double bourbon and took a nap. It went away.
Outstanding!!!!!! Post of the week !
A friend mention that he had installed a generator in his house as preparation for Y2K. I told him I thought that was a great idea. He asked if I had a generator and I said no, I like generators because it helps decide which houses are worth plundering.
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I don't have room to keep a year's supply of water.
Food? Probably. I could live on rice and canned tuna for a long time.
The only thing I have to add to this discussion is this, with as many cities having issues with their municipal water supply as there are having a water Purifier is a better investment than bottled water.
We have a Berkey. All of our drinking water goes through it now. Colorado Springs has good water but the Berkey water tastes better than our city water and it's saved us the price of the Berkey in not buying bottled drinking water.
The only other thing I'm going to say is during the supply shortages I told my wife to take special note of anything that was hard to find that she really wished she'd stocked up on and if things ever eased up make stocking those things a priority.
That's what we've done.
We have a Berkey. All of our drinking water goes through it now. Colorado Springs has good water but the Berkey water tastes better than our city water and it's saved us the price of the Berkey in not buying bottled drinking water.
The only other thing I'm going to say is during the supply shortages I told my wife to take special note of anything that was hard to find that she really wished she'd stocked up on and if things ever eased up make stocking those things a priority.
That's what we've done.
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Smart woman, Ivan!
My wife and I watched a series on TV called “Daily Bread.” If you can find it, a fairly good watch. Anyway, the triggering event was a huge solar flare induced EMP. The SHTF pretty quickly. In less than a day, some folks reverted to animals. Kind of like what happened in New Orleans after Katrina hit. The old Boy Scout motto, “be prepared” is a good one!
My wife and I watched a series on TV called “Daily Bread.” If you can find it, a fairly good watch. Anyway, the triggering event was a huge solar flare induced EMP. The SHTF pretty quickly. In less than a day, some folks reverted to animals. Kind of like what happened in New Orleans after Katrina hit. The old Boy Scout motto, “be prepared” is a good one!
I'm going to throw out one more thing. No matter how well you've stocked up, if your neighbors are cooking their dogs to stay alive and you look like you're eating three squares a day people will notice.
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A thought for the “Bunker In” group.
For those members that live in cities and suburbs how are you going to protect your home from fire. It is common to see on TV that rioters and mobs like to set buildings on fire.
Remember the TV Show “Doomsday Preppers”. It was actually pretty good program for the first season. In one episode a lady had turned her home into a very well stocked residence. She had multiple shelves of food snd supplies throughout her home. I mean she had the house packed with food and supplies. She said her plan was to provide food for her neighbors when things got bad. My main thought was how was she going to protect her home from fire.
I have observed over the years how residential lots have become smaller meaning houses and garages on only few feet away from each other. When community services like the fire department is overwhelmed by the number of calls or breaks down and no longer responds to fire call what will keep the fire from spreading to house to house in your neighborhood. I don’t think the garden house will help much and, of course, not at all if the water plants shut down.
I live in the country so fire isn’t as much of a danger. However I don’t a safe drinking water supply. Previous years of oil drilling has contaminated all of the underground water. Oil drillers back then would pump water into the ground to force oil close to the surface for easier pumping. A new neighbor drilled two wells and the water in both of them came back contaminated.
I do have a small river nearby but it is contaminated with fertilizers that run off farmers fields into the river.
This is problem I have not come up with a good solution for.
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My grandfathers farm had a well 250 deep that he had drilled in the 1950's. Before that, All the rainwater was collected in Cisterns at each building. The farm supply stores sell from 400 to 2000-gallon plastic tanks. The 400-gallon tanks are made to fit in the bed of a full-sized pickup should you need to transport water. Grandpops' farm had the house and 4 large buildings, this stores all the water they needed for a small farm with draft horses and family livestock. But his 100 cow dairy operation needed more water than that.
One of my farmer friends has a small side business for the teenaged kids and grandkids of hauling water to homes and farms with cisterns and/or swimming pools. He pays a fee ($1000/month) to fill up his tanks from the fire hydrants in any of 4 counties and use all the water he wants. For the 3 to 4 months that he is planting the 12 grand a year is cheap, the other 8 months he has excess water to sell and trucks to sell it with.
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??? I love fruitcake... I'll PM you my address in late November
I live rurally and have a shallow well (19') which is pretty good for my minimal needs. But I also have two below-ground tanks, 1000 and 2000 Imp. gallons (~ 3600 USG) which I can draw on by switching valves in the well house. Have rarely needed them so far. When I built the new house I ran a line from the (filtered) gutters so I can fill the tanks from rainwater by a diverter valve.
Depending on the tank, I think the max. height for the riser tube (access port) is about 2', and you need access for cleaning etc.
There was already an underground 1000g tank on the property, next to the well, and I added a 2100 gallon Norwesco, #44080, which is 51"H x 99" W x 159" L.
There is also a line of excellent tanks from Graf, the Carat S and the larger Platin XL and XXL.
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