Single shot

[danalex]

Hello,
My last purchase of this weekend. One, First Model single shot (Model 91), matching serial numbers. Clear markings and in good condition.

Just missing the Rear Sight part (
If anyone has one for sale...
I am especially surprised that the number does not appear in the list of R.J. Neal & Roy G. Jinks.
An explanation ?

 

[danalex]

Single Shot (Next)

 

[Patbar]

You've got a very nice gun, Damiel !

 

[rct269]

The explanation for the serial number missing from N&J is (I'm pretty sure without looking.) it's noted in the text the list is incomplete. Our collective wisdom (SWAG) is there are upwards of 200-250 numbers missing---mostly, perhaps entirely above the highest number listed. The highest number I had was 23001----WAY above whatever's listed---and it lettered just fine.

As to the rear sight "part", if you're referring to the sight blade itself, I have a machinist drawing of the blade/retaining plate/including the screw specs, from which A BUNCH of blades have been made over the years---which fit perfectly-----the very first one for me---very first since I got my grubby little paws on the drawing a loooooooong time ago. Tell me where to send a copy, and it will appear in your mail box---as if by magic.

Ralph Tremaine

 

[danalex]

Single Shot

Thank you very much Ralph, I'll send you my address by email

 

[Modelof1891]

Single Shot

The book list the first models but stops around serial number 18873. The factory ledger list the last number recorded as 18,900. The actual serial numbers for this 1891 frame ran to 28,107.
The latest one I have is all matching numbers 24946 that letters as a .38 Single Shot, 10 inch barrel, and blued. Numbered on the butt.

 

[deadin]

I have one numbered 19056............

 

[Jaco1234]

Ralphs drawings are very good. I made a rear sight from them. Get a good file and some sharp drill bits. You can get spring stock from Dixie gun works that is pretty close to the right gauge.

 

[rct269]

Ralphs drawings are very good. I made a test sight from them. Get a good file and some sharp drill bits. You can get spring stock from Dixie gun works that is pretty close to the right gauge.

I never knew who it was (before now---maybe), but if this post (^^^^^) is from the totally around the bend, but truly dedicated do-it-"yourself-er", these blades can in fact be made by hand----with a file-----and what I suppose is more dedication than a TV preacher. Of course, if you happen to have a milling machine in the basement, it's a piece of cake!!

Mine was made by a gunsmith----with a milling machine---$35------probably 25 years ago.

Another rather clever soul did it another way (but still with a milling machine). The drawing/dimensions is for the small frame sight. The blade for the large frame guns is exactly the same---only wider---and of different heights. He made a long strip, instead of a single blade, and made the height high enough to accommodate any gun/barrel length. Once done as such, you can whack off (and finish with a file) a piece of appropriate width, trim for the proper height, and get on down the road!

Pretty sneaky!!

Ralph Tremaine

And as an aside, there is (or was) an online metals outfit (with no minimum order) selling annealed 4130 (??) steel stock for such projects.

 

[Jaco1234]

File = poor man's milling machine

 

[Model19man]

Hello,
My last purchase of this weekend. One, First Model single shot (Model 91), matching serial numbers. Clear markings and in good condition.

Resized and rotated right side up.

 

[wlw-19958]

Hi There,

File = poor man's milling machine

Don't knock a file. It is one of the five essential tools. That is,
with a hammer, chisel, drill and a file you can make anything.
What is the fifth essential? Time (lots and lots of time).

Cheers!
Webb

 

[Model19man]

Hi There,


Don't knock a file. It is one of the five essential tools. That is,
with a hammer, chisel, drill and a file you can make anything.
What is the fifth essential? Time (lots and lots of time).

Cheers!
Webb

My grandfather made this wrench using a file and a band saw. I wish I had a band saw.

 

[danalex]

Resized and rotated right side up.

Thanks you Model19man

 

[Club Gun Fan]

My first impression is, its refinished. The hammer and trigger look plated and the sideplate appears dished. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Model19man]

My first impression is, its refinished. The hammer and trigger look plated and the sideplate appears dished. I hope I'm wrong.

Looks that way to me too but it's still nice.

 

[deadin]

It also looks like the upper half of the "Smith & Wesson" on the barrel has been buffed away.

 

[danalex]

Hi, Yes indeed,
But I would not say refinished,
could be in a French style to be shining, a treatment to take out the blue (with white vinegar ?)

 

[deadin]

But I would not say refinished,
could be in a French style to be shining, a treatment to take out the blue (with white vinegar ?)

Rather than call it a "refinish" maybe "unfinish" would be more accurate?

 

[rct269]

Rather than call it a "refinish" maybe "unfinish" would be more accurate?

Or maybe "stripped"---as in "Different strokes for different folks"?

I guess that's okay----if.

Ralph Tremaine