45 Auto Rim primer installation

[cracker57]

Simple answer...the universal priming tool does NOT use a shell holder . Again, see my pictures in my earlier post NUMBER 6.

Simple answer, your system does not work for every cartridge most yes, every not so much

 

[RMFnLA]

The RCBS Universal tool is advertised as accepting cases from 32acp to 45-70.
From comments on the net I gather that the 45AR has a rim that is too thick (about .083) to work in the universal fit 'jaws' of the mechanism.

That’s interesting because I used to shoot .45 AR in my .45-70 Remington rolling-block with no issues.

I haven’t seen a .45 AR cartridge in years.

 

[StrawHat]

…One advantage is that the AR cases are stronger in the web area and you can load them a bit hotter. I’ve loaded some up to near .45 Super levels with no problems…

I have loaded my 45 ACP brass to 45 Super levels with no problems. As you mentioned, not for the 1917s but for the Model 25-2 and later, no problem.

Kevin

 

[BC38]

...I might have to go with another method, OR, may just say the hell with it, sell the AR brass, and stick with just .45 ACP .
The auto rim brass advantage of not needing moon clips looks to be more of a PITA than its worth !!!

If you choose to get rid of your AR brass, just let me know. I'm interested!

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

I have been using an old Lee hand priming tool which uses conventional shell holders for years and it works fine with .45 AR. Anything sold as being "Universal" may well not be.

Same here.........OP needs to buy a conventional priming tool that uses conventional shell holders.......Problem solved........Most "Universal" stuff only works in theory.

 

[jeeps]

Use my 50 year old RCBS shell holder 45 AR in my Rock Chucker press to prime them. Been using it same amount of years. In SW,Colt 1917's and SW M-25.

 

[Muley Gil]

I use an older RCBS rock crusher press...and it works fine, has for many years. It has NO provision for primer installation. When , and if, I receive a reply from RCBS, I will ask them if there is some type of attachment or option that I could use on my press. Presently I have not been able to install AR primers, or any other caliber primers on my press. I have used the hand held primer tool for tens of thousands of rounds without issue... this is a first .
I might have to go with another method, OR, may just say the hell with it, sell the AR brass, and stick with just .45 ACP .
The auto rim brass advantage of not needing moon clips looks to be more of a PITA than its worth !!!

You are missing the priming attachment for your press:


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[ArchAngelCD]

I use a handheld RCBS primer for many years. It's not the universal, it's the one which uses shell holders. I don't think the shell holders are a problem since I already have them for loading the cases. I also have one of the older Lee handheld primers which works very well as a backup. I would still be using the Lee if I didn't get the RCBS as a gift.

I never thought to "upgrade" to the universal because I'm happy with the one I now use.

 

[Roofuss]

If you choose to get rid of your AR brass, just let me know. I'm interested!

If interested in the 200 rounds of new 45 auto rim brass , send me a PM ?
Roofuss.

 

[glenwolde]

As a quick and inexpensive workaround I'd just get a Lee (or other) ram prime unit and a shell holder. Not fast but if you're not looking for thousands of rounds it'll work fine. I much preferred the Auto Rim brass to using ACP brass. If you think priming Auto Rim brass is a pain wait until you're plucking ACP brass from clips or chambers.

 

[Roofuss]

If you think priming Auto Rim brass is a pain wait until you're plucking ACP brass from clips or chambers.

I have specific loading / unloading tool for the moon clips, so it's not all that bad. Just trying to eliminate that added step to shooting ACP in my revolvers.

 

[243winxb]

If you think priming Auto Rim brass is a pain wait until you're plucking ACP brass from clips or chambers.

I have specific loading / unloading tool for the moon clips, so it's not all that bad. Just trying to eliminate that added step to shooting ACP in my revolvers.

The loading & unloading of 45 acp is why i had my revolver, less then a year. Plus poor accuracy.

 

[growr]

there are many home made solutions to removing fired casings from moon clips and all work with varying degrees of success.

I shot USPSA Revolver with my JM 625 with many moon clips and found the""California Competition Works Super Demooner Moon Clip Unloading Tool for 6 or 8 Shot Full Moon Clips" takes only 3-4 seconds to unload fired casings.

Randy

PS,

to load clips I simply use a pair of pliers to snap them in...about 10 seconds...

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

I kinda like Auto-Rims too...................

 

[jeeps]

I use my RCBS Rock Chucker priming arm on 45AR for 50 years,do not load more than 100 at a time in starline brass.

 

[max503]

Beware: I bought two new Universals several years ago. Neither would fully seat a primer with 100% reliability. Every primer had to be checked (I do this regardless of the primer seater used) and about 5% or more were not fully seated. Also, the effort required to seat was more than what was normally required.

The RCBS handpriming tool that required shellholders was a much better one. I returned both Universals, but maybe I just bought a couple of bad ones.

Glad to hear this because I just plunked down the bucks for the one that uses shell holders.

 

[smithra_66]

I have used these universals for many years, never had any issues. Just trying to figure out why I can not use it for auto rim brass .

For Auto Rim, you'll need a primer tool that accepts regular shell holders.

 

[rockquarry]

Glad to hear this because I just plunked down the bucks for the one that uses shell holders.

I think you'll be happy with your purchase; what you bought is more versatile than the Universal model even if it's more trouble to change out shellholders.

However, based solely on comments in this thread, there are apparently some who have used the Universal with complete satisfaction.

 

[Rule3]

My goodness all this typing and replies having nothing to do with original question?


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