ATF now wants to know who has powder!

[Combat_Diver]

ATF with another rule and open for comment.


Regulations.gov

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[Telecaster]

I bought some fireworks for the 4th of July, I guess I’d have to tell the local fire department where they are, and when they’ve all been shot off.

 

[Rule3]

Smokeless powder is considered flammable not explosive.
I have 5 gal of gas in my shed

 

[Valmet]

Since they got their hand slapped on the pistol brace reg, it looks like they’re lashing out at other things (what constitutes a “dealer” and powder).

 

[Telecaster]

From the ATF website:

Explosives are any chemical compound, mixture, or device, the primary or common purpose of which is to function by explosion. The term includes, but is not limited to, black powder, pellet powder, initiating explosives, ammonium nitrate fuel oil (ANFO) mixtures, safety fuses, squibs, mixed binary explosives, and igniters. Explosives are also present in items such as automotive air bag inflators, special industrial tools, fire extinguishers, some pest control devices, some model rocket engines, fireworks, and special effects in the entertainment industry.

 

[robertrwalsh]

So I guess I am still good with my 25 # of Tannerite as long as it is not mixed up. (Just kidding.)

Also I do not see smokeless powder anywhere on that list. As well all know (and has been stated above) smokeless powder is NOT an explosive, it is a propellant.

Primers???????

 

[WCCPHD]

All part of the master plan. Can't go in the front door, try the back or the window or down the chimney.

They will NEVER stop. They are patient, relentless and ruthless. They are, and have been, eating the elephant one bite at a time for sixty or so years.

 

[austintexas]

I had a friend that had a house fire and when the ammo that he had stored in the garage started to cook off the fire department backed off and let his house burn to the ground.
SWCA 892

 

[Spurdann]

As in a previous post, what part of “Shall not be infringed” is confusing?

 

[Magnum_PI]

As in a previous post, what part of “Shall not be infringed” is confusing?

I suppose it's confusing because I last knew many schools stopped teaching cursive and also because it wasn't written in crayon...

This is just another tactic to now come for ammo, and especially those of you who "roll your own."

Mighty concerning if you ask me.

I am looking to get into reloading myself (eventually). Guess I should just buy powder and set it aside and wait on the rest of things to follow when money approves.

 

[BC38]

I suppose it's confusing because I last knew many schools stopped teaching cursive and also because it wasn't written in crayon...

This is just another tactic to now come for ammo, and especially those of you who "roll your own."

Mighty concerning if you ask me.

I am looking to get into reloading myself (eventually). Guess I should just buy powder and set it aside and wait on the rest of things to follow when money approves.

Not until they include smokeless powder in the definition of "explosives" it isn't.
It currently isn't in the list of things defined as explosives, and as two others have already pointed out in this thread, it isn't an explosive, it is classified as a propellant. Of course they could change that definition at any time I suppose.

 

[Magnum_PI]

Not until they include smokeless powder in the definition of "explosives" it isn't.
It currently isn't in the list of things defined as explosives, and as two others have already pointed out in this thread, it isn't an explosive, it is classified as a propellant. Of course they could change that definition at any time I suppose.

That would certainly be my concern is people are changing the definitions of a whole lot of things these days...

 

[eb07]

The commies will never stop trying to disarm us so they can take over.

 

[Culina]

Primers are explosive, smokeless powder by itself is not.

 

[fordson]

So, are we all going to submit comments concerning this proposal?

 

[stansdds]

As in a previous post, what part of “Shall not be infringed” is confusing?

Because powder, flint, and musket balls were not specifically stated in the 2A. The restriction and prohibition of ammunition and ammunition components has long been a back door path to the elimination of privately owned firearms.

 

[BC38]

Because powder, flint, and musket balls were not specifically stated in the 2A. The restriction and prohibition of ammunition and ammunition components has long been a back door path to the elimination of privately owned firearms.

I can't cite it, and I may be wrong altogether, but wasn't there a SCOTUS case a couple of years ago where the Supremes struck down a law restricting ammo as un-Constitutional - on the grounds that you can't "bear arms" without access to ammo?

 

[Ackley1952]

johnsons baby powder mixed with Camp Lejeune water makes a good substitute for RL 7 in a tight. Keep it away from Round up tho.

 

[djohns6]

I don't reload so I don't have any powder . If I did , the ATF would be the last to know about it .

 

[soFlaNative]

I read DOJ is amending ATF regulations.
Is this regarding existing rules or an addition?