What do these grips fit, and what are they worth?
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Post a picture of the inside and bottom of the grips. They appear to be I frame .22/32 heavy frame target grips from the 1910-1920 decade
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Those extended targets have a small gold washed medallions. The stocks made from 1910 to 1920 have larger medallions. I believe the small medallion stocks go back to the early 1900s and used on Single Shot walnut stocks as well as on pearl and ivory stocks.
Gold medallions were introduced around 1898 to show proof that the factory made the stocks. Before that, distributors would often replace factory stocks with cheaply made stocks of mother-of-pearl or ivory. To avoid problems with customers, the factory added a small medallion and even placed a sticker in the gun boxes to explain the difference between factory and distributor stocks. I have seen these medallions on Single Shot pistol walnut target stocks made in the first decade of the 1900s. In 1910 the size of the medallion was increased to be placed on all wood, ivory and MOP stocks.
Gold medallions were introduced around 1898 to show proof that the factory made the stocks. Before that, distributors would often replace factory stocks with cheaply made stocks of mother-of-pearl or ivory. To avoid problems with customers, the factory added a small medallion and even placed a sticker in the gun boxes to explain the difference between factory and distributor stocks. I have seen these medallions on Single Shot pistol walnut target stocks made in the first decade of the 1900s. In 1910 the size of the medallion was increased to be placed on all wood, ivory and MOP stocks.
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Wow, you have been on the forum for a long time.
Do the stocks fit your new revolver and what is it?
.22 Single Shot Third Model
I looked in the "SCSW 4th. Ed", and on Page 35 there is shown an identical pair of stocks to what you have. Those checkered walnut target stocks were fitted to Single Shot revolvers- specifically the Third Model .22 Single Shot which was introduced in 1909. The gold plated medallions were used from 1909 until about 1917-1920, after which there were no medallions. I'm not an expert, but hope this helps.
I looked in the "SCSW 4th. Ed", and on Page 35 there is shown an identical pair of stocks to what you have. Those checkered walnut target stocks were fitted to Single Shot revolvers- specifically the Third Model .22 Single Shot which was introduced in 1909. The gold plated medallions were used from 1909 until about 1917-1920, after which there were no medallions. I'm not an expert, but hope this helps.
Yes. And they were also provided with the Bekeart models as shown on page 135 of the SCSW, 4th Edition. There may be a serial number stamped on the bottom of the panels which would be a definite indicator that was where they originated. Hence, why I asked to see a picture of the bottom of the grips.
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We could very likely respond to your value inquiry if we had any idea of what they looked like-----------other than dark.
RCT
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First designed in 1891, they were available in Gutta Percha until 1903 when first offered in walnut. They were standard on the single shot models as glowe posted and the 1903 I Frame .32 Target models. Also in 1911 on the I frame revolver .22/32 heavy frame target-Bekeart model as posted above by Wiregrassguy. Optional on other I frame size revolvers.
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jscoffern
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If there is a sn. written on the inside, and that serial number matches your revolver, they would be of higher value. Alone, about $75.00.
donadler
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Those images show the small early gold medallion more clearly, so most likely used on pre-1910 Single Shot pistols. When the gold medallion was introduced on all models in 1910, the medallion was larger. The OP's stock in on the right and 22/32 HFT medallion stocks on the left. There seem to be a few small medallion stocks around when the Bekeart HFT started manufacture, but were likely soon changed out when the new medallions were introduced.
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Those images show the small early gold medallion more clearly, so most likely used on pre-1910 Single Shot pistols. When the gold medallion was introduced on all models in 1910, the medallion was larger. The OP's stock in on the right and 22/32 HFT medallion stocks on the left. There seem to be a few small medallion stocks around when the Bekeart HFT started manufacture, but were likely soon changed out when the new medallions were introduced.
Gary, very interesting, I didn't know that. I've only seen the large size medallions which measure 3/8" diameter. Do you know the size of the small medallions? I'd guess 5/16".
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I have never owned a gun with those medallions so do not know the exact size, so your guess is as good as any. I have seen them going back to the 1893 Chicago Exhibition guns. They all had plain MOP stocks at the Exhibition, but by the late 1890s those remaining in the S&W collection were changed to those small gold medallions. I believe it was about the same time as the company started putting the "don't buy inferior stocks" insert in gun boxes. Here is an example of a New Model 3 without and with the small medallions.
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Gary, that was a good catch on your part. And maybe a good thread for the antiques forum.
