30 carbine short in 30 carbine

[Sevens]

Unless it's exceptionally difficult/expensive for you to get proper ammo and/or cartridge brass to handload, I think the simple risk/reward is a bad idea considering you're discussing a classic old rifle that you have an affinity for.

What I think will happen:

If you chamber a round slowly by hand, it will work just fine. However in normal operation, the naturally violent feed cycle and forward momentum of a cartridge self-loading will have a round skip past the extractor and/or subject the extractor to excessive wear.

Someone above mentioned that possibly these rounds could work in a Ruger Blackhawk? The answer to that is NO WAY. I found quite early in my .30 Carbine Blackhawk adventure that even a little too much brass trimming makes them unshootable. They simply chamber too deeply for the frame mount firing pin to reach them and NO BANG.

This whole operation sounds like a real fiasco to me however, I understand that you are in Belgium, so you might have an array of fiascos to deal with.

 

[rockquarry]

I could have overlooked something, but I'm very surprised I could find no mention of this short cartridge in any of my reference books. Is "French 30" the official name or is that just an informal designation?

 

[DWalt]

Here is pretty much the full story on the .30 Carbine Short cartridge: .30 Court made by RWS - General Ammunition Discussion - International Ammunition Association Web Forum

 

[Fuch]

Unless it's exceptionally difficult/expensive for you to get proper ammo and/or cartridge brass to handload, I think the simple risk/reward is a bad idea considering you're discussing a classic old rifle that you have an affinity for.

What I think will happen:

If you chamber a round slowly by hand, it will work just fine. However in normal operation, the naturally violent feed cycle and forward momentum of a cartridge self-loading will have a round skip past the extractor and/or subject the extractor to excessive wear.

Someone above mentioned that possibly these rounds could work in a Ruger Blackhawk? The answer to that is NO WAY. I found quite early in my .30 Carbine Blackhawk adventure that even a little too much brass trimming makes them unshootable. They simply chamber too deeply for the frame mount firing pin to reach them and NO BANG.

This whole operation sounds like a real fiasco to me however, I understand that you are in Belgium, so you might have an array of fiascos to deal with.

Thank you very much for your information, in order to avoid any risk of incidents I will not use these cases I love my 30 rifle too much for that, it will be for scrap, thanks again

 

[Fuch]

Here is pretty much the full story on the .30 Carbine Short cartridge: .30 Court made by RWS - General Ammunition Discussion - International Ammunition Association Web Forum

very interesting and useful information I will keep it thank you,

 

[Fuch]

I could have overlooked something, but I'm very surprised I could find no mention of this short cartridge in any of my reference books. Is "French 30" the official name or is that just an informal designation?

the name of this atypic cartridge is 30 carbine short , using only in France ,Belgium and luxemburg but this caliber is obsolet

 

[muddocktor]

If I may make a suggestion Fuch, since these cases are so rare, maybe you should try to sell them or swap them with someone that has normal cases. I'm sure in a swap that you should be able to get better than 1 to 1 for normal cases. After all, there are the rifles that are chambered for this round with no ready access to brass besides buying regular 30 Carbine brass and trimming each one down to size for the gun collectors that have these French rifles.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

I would think a .30 Carbine Short would be made with the intent of no interchangeability with a standard gun, in either direction. So I doubt they will work in a longer standard chamber, especially if the cases headspace on the mouth.

Lots of calibers supposidly head space on the cartridge mouth when in reality they "head space" on the extractor...........Try a couple and see if they work.

 

[jeed]

Hello, I have one of the Iver Johnson's in 30 carbine short. I would be
Interested in buying some of them if you are willing to ship them.

 

[Fuch]

Hello, I have one of the Iver Johnson's in 30 carbine short. I would be
Interested in buying some of them if you are willing to ship them.

i'm sorry but the brass are goes to the waste