Hollyweird guns - 1970s Hawaii 5-0 in particular

[ISCS Yoda]

I imagine that most of y'all pay attention to the firearms that you see in movies and TV shows. I do it but, usually, it's not something I dwell on unless something really unusual takes place. When they call .380 pistols .38 caliber revolvers I just roll my eyes and move on.

Anyway, I was watching old/1970s Hawaii Five-0 episodes recently and there was this murder-for-hire thing going on and the organizer gave the three shooters matching pistols.

They looked like this:

To me, those look like mid-1930s era Beretta pistols with suppressors. What I couldn't understand was the clear plastic "tube" wrapped around the slide.

So, when the time comes for the assassination all three killers are in the same room at the same time with their target, which was, of course, the arrangement - a complex piece of plot but it worked.

Pffft!!!

Pfffft!!!

Pffffft!!

They got him and down he goes.

The camera picks up one of the guns and it shows the brass case from the fired round captured by the clear, plastic tube. Clever and intriguing and obviously designed to ensure that no evidence is left behind. Since there was a really good chance that the case could bounce back into the receiver and all 3 guns were the same it made sense, plot-wise, to have three assassins with three guns working the same way.

All of that above to ask this simple question - would that even work? Could you literally capture a case in a plastic tube attached to the slide?

I'll stay tuned...........

 

[LVSteve]

I recall that episode, I thought it was a slick piece of plot. As there were three assassins at the hit, each gun only had to work once. I also recall that each gun had been bored smoothbore, so the fact that three different guns were used was hidden.

 

[lihpster]

Capture? Yes. Keep it out of the action? Doubtful. The thing is, given the one shot/ 3 shooters theory, a slide lock would do the same thing, quieter. Plus, there were already guns made like that, so you wouldn't have to make them. But there I go bringing logic into it.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I also recall that each gun had been bored smoothbore, so the fact that three different guns were used was hidden.
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I'll go back to see that part again!!!!

 

[Ameshawki]

1934 Beretta with some weird Hollywood fantasy parts.

 

[LVSteve]

1934 Beretta with some weird Hollywood fantasy parts.

If you believe shows like The Saint and Danger Man, every man and his wife had a 1934 or 1935 Beretta in England.

 

[diyj98]

Perhaps a brass catcher so that no evidence was left at the crime scene? It's Hollywood, so anything is possible.

 

[jeffrefrig]

Perhaps a brass catcher because the prop department was on a tight budget and needed the brass to reload for a different scene.

 

[mikerjf]

Remember that the 1934 is open slide and ejects straight up. Looks like the tube wraps enough that the brass might be trapped off to the side.

 

[pharmer]

That Wo Fat was expert in sneak attack. Joe

 

[ISCS Yoda]

That Wo Fat was expert in sneak attack. Joe

Wo Fat - my favorite McGarrett nemesis!

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

My limited experience with brass catchers, was the mesh bag type, hanging limp. I thought they would jam up the action. I Limited the empties to 10 on both the semi auto AR-15 and the full auto and suppressed MAC-10 in 9mm with subsonic and full velocity ammo. I never had an empty cast cause a problem on either gun.

I am willing to bet is real life the "Clear Tube Brass Catcher" would work for 2 or 3 rounds.

The Masad were the real pros and they preferred Berrettas in 22 short (no suppressor) and empty a full mag or two into the target. Street noise was all that was needed to cover the sound at 20 feet.

Ivan

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Ivan the B wrote: The Masad were the real pros and they preferred Berrettas in 22 short (no suppressor) and empty a full mag or two into the target. Street noise was all that was needed to cover the sound at 20 feet.

That's Mossad, but, okay, it's true, they did not use suppressors. However, they used Beretta Model 70/70s/71 pistols in .22 Long Rifle, not .22 Short.

As a matter of fact, the IDF still trains with Beretta Model 70s pistols today. Well, as of 2015 they did, anyway, because I saw it with my own eyes and handled the guns with my own two little Hebrew hands!

Right here:

קליבר 3

(c) Caliber 3 - I presume they have a copyright in their content - I couldn't find it, though.

8 years is a long time so maybe they don't use them to train with anymore, I couldn't really say. And maybe they brought those out just for the tourists but they sure enough still had them when I was there - and they liked the way I shot them, too!

IDF Soldier to me:

"That's good shooting."

Me to IDF Soldier:

"That's what I do."

We shot Ruger AR-15 style .22s also. SR-22? I am uncertain, I'm not a Ruger rifle expert and don't play one on TV but I saw those in 2015 and 2017 at Caliber 3.

 

[rwsmith]

If I used it......

...it would stovepipe on the first shot, so it had better be a good one.

What kind of gun did Emma Peel use? Whatever it was I want one and I'd just hold it and dream about being 10 years old again and watching her in action. (She was in 'action' when she just sat still). I heard that her mother was still fielding marriage proposals for her daughter many years after The Avengers went off the air.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

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What kind of gun did Emma Peel use? Whatever it was I want one and I'd just hold it and dream about being 10 years old again and watching her in action. (She was in 'action' when she just sat still). I heard that her mother was still fielding marriage proposals for her daughter many years after The Avengers went off the air.

This chart will break up in all likelihood but it answers the question:

Webley Mk IV Emma Peel The Avengers Gold plated w/ short barrel & Pearl grips 1965 - 1969

Walther P38 Emma Peel The Avengers 1965 - 1969

Smith & Wesson 39 Emma Peel The Avengers 1965 - 1969

Beretta Laramie Emma Peel The Avengers 1965 - 1969

Enfield No.2 Emma Peel The Avengers 1965-1969

MP40 Emma Peel The Avengers 1965-1969

Double Barreled Shotgun Emma Peel The Avengers 1965-1969

(c) IMFDB

 

[s&wchad]

Garbage...

I remember a Hawaii Five-O episode where a sniper used an AR7 (.22 LR semi auto) with a suppressor. It sounded like a .30-06 going off!

Jack Lord drank the Koolaid anti-gun bandwagon. Whoever handled firearms authenticity for the series was either a total hack or completely ignorant.

 

[LVSteve]

This chart will break up in all likelihood but it answers the question:

Enfield No.2 Emma Peel The Avengers

That girl must have had strong fingers.

 

[ReloadforFun]

Hey - an AR-7 was good enough for James Bond ...

 

[Old cop]

In almost every TV or movie episode I’ve seen where a gun is introduced there’s a racking sound proceeding it. This happens regardless of what kind of firearm it is, including revolvers.

 

[Tommezgun]

In almost every TV or movie episode I’ve seen where a gun is introduced there’s a racking sound proceeding it. This happens regardless of what kind of firearm it is, including revolvers.

I was watching some movie with I think it was an Aussie playing a NJ narcotics detective he was carrying a riot shotgun and running down the stairs of some multi storied apartment building and at every landing there was the sound of someone racking the shotgun not shooting just racking. I said to my wife the sound effects man must be getting paid piece work and that shotgun did not carry enough ammo to rack out a shell every floor.