Upcoming execution in Alabama

[DWalt]

Saw on the news tonight that a convicted murdererer behind bars since 1988 will be executed tomorrow using Nitrogen gas. Basically by suffocation. He will be wearing a mask connected to a nitrogen tank. This new method apparently has court approval, and will be, if it happens, the first of its kind in the US. A previous attempt using lethal injection failed because they couldn't get a needle into his veins. As you might expect, there are many proclaiming that the N2 method is cruel and unusual.

I am a little surprised they did not choose CO2 as it is a form of slaughterhouse hog and chicken stunning that has been in use for a long time. Maybe that is also too cruel and unusual.

 

[ColbyBruce]

I believe the man stabbed a woman multiple times, causing her death. That too, seems cruel and unusual. He deserves to suffer.

 

[Rustyt1953]

His suffering begins the instant his heart stops.

 

[DWalt]

I think 36 years awaiting execution is cruel and unusual. For the survivors of the deceased victim.

 

[S42N8]

I think 36 years awaiting execution is cruel and unusual. For the survivors of the deceased.

And the taxpayers.

 

[ameridaddy]

I knew an ironworker who was a victim of nitrogen unconsciousness while working on an underground missile silo. Fortunately, someone dumped a load of oxygen near his face and he survived. Three of his coworkers died from it. He said he was not aware of any discomfort or shortness of breath before he abruptly passed out. One second he was working, next he knew, he was out of the silo with an oxygen mask on.
OTOH, CO2 poisoning stimulates the central nervous system to breathe, and hence the suffocation feeling, the increasing discomfort of shortness of breath, and desperate gasping for breath before losing consciousness.
From what my friend described, other than the fear of impending death as they prep the prisoner, a nitrogen death should be painless..

 

[Rustyt1953]

 

[GypsmJim]

They should not use an untried method. The tree huggers will complain if something goes wrong. Why don't they just use the same method that he used when he did the murder?

But while you are at it, why not charge his estate for all the taxpayers money he consumed thus far?

 

[ColbyBruce]

I think 36 years awaiting execution is cruel and unusual. For the survivors of the deceased.

Thirty-six years of being looked after by hardworking Alabama citizens. He got free medical care, three meals a day, free room and board. He should have been publicly executed a.s.a.p. He chose his own path. His victim did not.

 

[quikdraw67]

Ropes and trees worked for centuries, and are recyclable and environmentally friendly.

 

[pharman]

"Old Sparky"

Yes Rusty...Ohio as well as other states need to bring back "Old Sparky"...

 

[Bald1]

Firing squad. There was an earlier thread where OP got a .458 Win and wanted to shoot it……. Here ya go.

 

[DWalt]

I suppose the effect is something like the nitrogen narcosis that scuba divers sometimes experience. They are usually not aware of what is happening to them. Just sort of like getting drunk. It may be interesting to read the after action report. If there is one.

 

[DWalt]

Firing squad. There was an earlier thread where OP got a .458 Win and wanted to shoot it……. Here ya go.

I took a private guided tour of the then-new Ohio maximum security prison in Lucasville in the mid 1970s before it opened for use as a guest of the Assisant Warden-to-be, who I knew. It included the death chamber where the electric chair would be located. No big switch to throw, just a single button on the wall. I even pushed it (not yet hooked up). Ohio went to lethal injection and I believe that the chair was never put into use at Lucasville.

 

[gjgalligan]

They should not use an untried method. The tree huggers will complain if something goes wrong. Why don't they just use the same method that he used when he did the murder?

But while you are at it, why not charge his estate for all the taxpayers money he consumed thus far?

All methods have to have a first time to become a tried method.

As to charging his estate, after being in prison since 88 do you think he even has an estate?

 

[dmn57]

Regarding this topic, our way has been lost if we're considering the the feelings and welfare of convicted murderers.

 

[Rudi]

Having had one of my oldest friends murdered, I have no sympathy for this mutt. Don't care how they do it, just do it.

 

[CH4]

Saw on the news tonight that a convicted murdererer behind bars since 1988 will be executed tomorrow using Nitrogen gas. Basically by suffocation. He will be wearing a mask connected to a nitrogen tank. This new method apparently has court approval, and will be, if it happens, the first of its kind in the US. A previous attempt using lethal injection failed because they couldn't get a needle into his veins. As you might expect, there are many proclaiming that the N2 method is cruel and unusual.

I am a little surprised they did not choose CO2 as it is a form of slaughterhouse hog and chicken stunning that has been in use for a long time. Maybe that is also too cruel and unusual.

CO would be better. Silent and painless.

 

[Beemerguy53]

I heard and watched several broadcast television and radio news stories about this today, all with the same theme: Is this new method of execution "cruel and unusual", and will it result in undue suffering for the condemned?

(Of course, there is never any speculation about the suffering experienced by the victims of these monsters. Nor is there any compassion for the families of those victims. It's sickening.)

The justice system figured out decades ago how to end a human life almost instantly, with a minimum of pain and suffering...and a half-dozen 7.62mm rounds are a lot cheaper than anything else to boot.

 

[Muley Gil]

Alabama used Big Yellow Mama for 75 years:

Yellow Mama - Wikipedia