I see this going down like a Value Jet in the Everglades
New S & W rifle
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This explains something
I've been wondering about the special edition S&W 1854. Everyone has been calling it a blued finish. Bluing isn't done on stainless steel.
In reading the information on the S&W website, it states that the special edition has a gloss black finish, or a PVD finish. At least that clarifies that. For $3500 a DLC coating would have been nice.
Beautiful gun, but $3500?
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/sw-model-1854-limited-edition-lever-action-rifle-44-magnum
I've been wondering about the special edition S&W 1854. Everyone has been calling it a blued finish. Bluing isn't done on stainless steel.
In reading the information on the S&W website, it states that the special edition has a gloss black finish, or a PVD finish. At least that clarifies that. For $3500 a DLC coating would have been nice.
Beautiful gun, but $3500?
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/sw-model-1854-limited-edition-lever-action-rifle-44-magnum
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LittleCooner
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I also find it strange that the introduction was not in the 45 L Colt, 460 chamber. And adding $ 2200+ to dump the plastic for a piece of walnut. The gun industry has been interesting to watch over my 60+ years of interest in firearms, as a lot of "new releases" over the years have disappeared from knowledge except by use of google search engine. We will see about this one, but I also think the timing is off and the price, chamber options are off. And plastic and torx screws are a huge tune off for my old taste, which was created many decades ago in a desire to have a dark, deep blued gun with nice patterns of walnut to catch ones eye. The shot show is never boring as the bean counters try to obtain my funds.
Fishinfool
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There is a gun show I go to every year. One dealer alway has a large display of Both Japanese Winchester & Italian versions of 1886's, 66's, 92's, ect. Some high grade Henry's as well. All are very nicely finished and most have beautiful figured wood. They seem to run between $1500 and $2000.
I find the blued, fancy walnut version of this rifle visually appealing, at $1800...
Not at what they are asking.
And I think a satin finished SS with straight grained walnut chambered in .460 and .500 S&W priced at maybe under $1500 would have been much more of a hit?
Larry
I find the blued, fancy walnut version of this rifle visually appealing, at $1800...
Not at what they are asking.And I think a satin finished SS with straight grained walnut chambered in .460 and .500 S&W priced at maybe under $1500 would have been much more of a hit?
Larry
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Not even then. Plastic stock and a stupid "rail". Good grief. People who want a rail and plastic stock, don't want a lever gun and people who want a lever gun, don't want a rail and plastic stock.
Once again, their sights are way off target. Maybe their market research barrel is canted.
Edit: Like a train wreck, I had to go look again - M-Lok slots?? I guess I'll be able to add that blender I've always wanted on my rifle. I repeat, Good grief.
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Saw a photo of the 1854 “Deluxe” or fancy version. It would have been great marketing to make them $1854 MSRP but oh well.
hyena
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I wish the resources that were put into bringing this rifle to market had been spent on a Bodyguard Plus.
Not at all practical, but I'd rather have this S&W 1854: Cody Firearms Museum: 1854 Smith & Wesson Repeating Rifle (Serial Number 8) - The Truth About Guns
I knew it was going to get weird when I saw my first tactical shotgun with an AR grip and a rail.
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I find it funny, because I have a thing for Marlin 1894s with shorter barrels paired with N frame Smiths for woods carry. I guess I need to start over.
F224
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Lot's of people in the USA & Canada will buy it for bear protection, it's very durable with it's stainless construction, and the mounts for a flashlight without making it look like some "tac-a-cool" abomination is a great idea.
Legal in places like NYC, California, and Canada.
I bet they had a big meeting of engineers and management with chart pads and big markers and they listed all the pros and cons and tore of big sheets of the chart pads and taped them all over the walls in the room and had a coffe break with donuts and then did the pros and cons of how much each option cost and then had cold cuts for lunch all paid by S&W. Then they arranged the big pads on the wall by subject and discussed everything until they finally arrived at 44 MAG. All this after they had the purpose of the meeting and the ground rules all on the chart pad first thing, I almost forgot that. It’s been a long time since I had to sit thru something like this or maybe that is the way it was done back in the 90’s.
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LittleCooner
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Jee, I just thought they were all Elmer Kieth fans.
They may be, my post was just a little humor that maybe only some of the older guys that have experienced those kind of meetings would appreciate. I forgot about setting up the meeting room there has to be a pad and pens and pencils and a bottle,of water for everybody and if it’s really a big deal then a pocket protector for everybody with a picture of the rifle and 2024 on it. You also have to have a scribe to write everything on the chart pads.
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A 460/500 S&W Magnum Levergun would be great,
says Lucas the Rifleman.
With Big Horns at $5K or thereabouts, one for 1.5k or less,
would be nice.
A 16" barrel and a longer one, to maximize the caliber's
full potential.
Straight traditional stock with crescent shaped butt
gets my vote.
Synthetic, or sold with no butt/forearm works for some.
Torx or Hex screws are great until they strip.
Straight slotted deep is more better.
Drilled/tapped for scope mounts.
Modern sights, no Buckhorns.
Saddle ring of course.
says Lucas the Rifleman.
With Big Horns at $5K or thereabouts, one for 1.5k or less,
would be nice.
A 16" barrel and a longer one, to maximize the caliber's
full potential.
Straight traditional stock with crescent shaped butt
gets my vote.
Synthetic, or sold with no butt/forearm works for some.
Torx or Hex screws are great until they strip.
Straight slotted deep is more better.
Drilled/tapped for scope mounts.
Modern sights, no Buckhorns.
Saddle ring of course.
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I would take a 460 mag with an 18-20" barrel in the 1k range. Kinda funny that some people here are griping about the plastic stock then fondle their plastic M&P before going to the range. Plastic gives me no heartburn. Neither does the rail. Just confounded that they did the 44mag first.
Grayfox
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So S&W built themselves a Marlin lever gun. Not my thing. 
I'm a Winchester guy.
I'm a Winchester guy.
kev74
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I got to fondle these at Shot Show in Tuesday. My initial thought was that it looked like a Marlin. The metal pieces seemed nicely fit with no slop at all. On the blued on, the forearm had a little giggle to it. It caught me off guard and didn't feel right when I worked the lever. The blue was nice, but it doesn't look like the old S&W blue.
As an aside, it seems like S&W isn't even trying with revolvers any more. They had one of the largest booths at the show, and a ton of pistols. I think I counted 6 revolvers. A 29 behind glass, a governor, 2 stainless and 2 blued for people to handle. The two blue ones - a 29 and a 36 - had turn lines on the barrels that were close to 1/8 inch wide. I'm guessing they've been using the same revolvers on their booth for the last several years, with all the wear you would expect. I would swear they are the same guns I played with at the Harrisburg Outdoor Show for the past few years.
As an aside, it seems like S&W isn't even trying with revolvers any more. They had one of the largest booths at the show, and a ton of pistols. I think I counted 6 revolvers. A 29 behind glass, a governor, 2 stainless and 2 blued for people to handle. The two blue ones - a 29 and a 36 - had turn lines on the barrels that were close to 1/8 inch wide. I'm guessing they've been using the same revolvers on their booth for the last several years, with all the wear you would expect. I would swear they are the same guns I played with at the Harrisburg Outdoor Show for the past few years.
Puller
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That's probably because pistols are selling 10 to 1 to revolvers. Just not the big market these days.
hkcavalier
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.460 or .500 would have been a lot more interesting. .44 Magnum out of a rifle isn't the death ray that some would assume. I suppose if you're stuck in a straight wall state it's a better option. I don't, but have a Ruger American in .450 Bushmaster that's far less expensive, is considerably lighter, and hits much harder. I'd take a BLR in that or .358 before considering the S&W.
