First of all, you have to figure out where to file the thing, and it ain't your port of departure . . .
Norwegian Cruise Line ship Left 8 passages at the dock
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First of all, you have to figure out where to file the thing, and it ain't your port of departure . . .
I did a little reading up on this. São Tomé and Príncipe Island indeed has a Coast Guard of their own. US Coast Guard Cutters occasionally visit to help "strengthen regional security and stability." The last mission I could find was in 2019. As for requiring the cruise ship to allow boarding, what domestic or international law was suspected of being broken?
We went on one cruise in our lives, to the Bahamas. They gave us wristbands and logged us off the ship and then back on. Capt advised us the ship would blow horns an hour+ before departure.
We stayed within eyesight and earshot of the ship.
We stayed within eyesight and earshot of the ship.
Exactly . Not to mention the ship would have to slow down and possibly change course depending on the wind and waves .
I read on another forum about this and it was suggested it was a passport issue; i.e one of the people had left it on the ship, (which wasn't very smart if so)...Don't know if true.. The other reason could have been simple liability of boarding from another much smaller vessel under extraordinary circumstances like suggested above?
I wasn’t implying a law was broken. I mentioned that as a reason for USCG being there. As far as boarding it just seems the same as being pulled over by a cop. When the lights come on you pull over.
Oldengineer
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It’s been said that there is no such thing as being on time, you are either early or late.
LVSteve
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I guess you haven't conned too many 92,000 ton cruise ships lately.
My bad, my comment was regarding the Coast Guard having a reason to board. The Coast Guard had no law enforcement reason to stop the ship and there is no way the cruise ship could be forced by anybody’s Coast Guard to allow passengers to board. Apologies for the misunderstanding. . .
You couldn't pay me to get on a cruise ship! The thought of being cooped up on a boat with hundreds, (thousands?) of other people would be a fate worse then death for me!
But if I did I would make sure I was back at the boat on time!
But if I did I would make sure I was back at the boat on time!
Obviously the CG and the Captain of the ship had a conversation about WHY they wanted him to stop and the Captain said that taking on passengers while underway wasn't going to happen AND that probably put an end to that little exercise . The CG can't make him accept the passengers .
twodog max
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I have done a few cruises and have seen a few people running down the dock as the ship pulled away. I have also seen a couple put off the ship for trying to bring drugs onboard.
One time leaving Cozumel there was a medical emergency on board as the ship passed Cancun, a water ambulance came out to disembark the patient and her husband. The Mexican navy circled the ship with gunboats the entire time. The gunboats were manning all guns. They did not appear to be in a party mood.
One time leaving Cozumel there was a medical emergency on board as the ship passed Cancun, a water ambulance came out to disembark the patient and her husband. The Mexican navy circled the ship with gunboats the entire time. The gunboats were manning all guns. They did not appear to be in a party mood.
This explains it fairly well . . . US passengers slam Norwegian Cruise Lines for leaving them in Africa
sigp220.45
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I just got back from a Norwegian Cruise Line cruise, our second. Like the first one, it was fantastic.
As has been noted, if you book an excursion through the ship they will wait. If you don’t, they won’t. Though I doubt my BAC dipped below .08 at any point on the journey I understood that much with great clarity.
This bunch of whiners just learned a hard lesson.
As has been noted, if you book an excursion through the ship they will wait. If you don’t, they won’t. Though I doubt my BAC dipped below .08 at any point on the journey I understood that much with great clarity.
This bunch of whiners just learned a hard lesson.
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This is probably the exact thing that happened...The CG requested an at-sea solution with the cruise line by both cell phone and radio and the ship Captain declined for safety and/or liability reasons and that was that.
It wasn't a no knock warrant from the CG for cocaine smuggling...It was probably a request and the affected parties would have to pay travel to the next port on their own if they chose to rejoin the cruise.
I'll bet that the displaced passengers are on time next time should they decide to cruise again.
Ivan the Butcher
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Best friend's nephew missed his Aircraft Carrier and he faced some sort of trial. He pled the Navy equivalent of "No Contest" when they ask why he missed his ship he told them the ship left 2 hours before his shore leave ended. (which was true.) No brig time, reduced one strip and loss of 30 day's pay. He's a Senior Chief now, so no harm no foul. About 200 men missed the boat! Not Their fault, too bad!
Ivan
ETA: I think that Rule #1 in the Navy is: Don't miss the boat!
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Ivan the Butcher
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I've been on two cruses, both Royal Caribbean. Total of 4 excursions, all booked through the ship/ cruise line. I find so much to do on the ship that was included in the price, there really isn't a reason to ever get off!
Of the 4 excursions, two were "Beech BBQs", The only reason I went to the second one was I officiated the renewal of my daughter's wedding vows on her anniversary! (A Nice crowd gathered to wish my daughter and her husband well!!) Any of the ship's snack bars and dining rooms are much better that the poorly cooked beech food!
Ivan
Of the 4 excursions, two were "Beech BBQs", The only reason I went to the second one was I officiated the renewal of my daughter's wedding vows on her anniversary! (A Nice crowd gathered to wish my daughter and her husband well!!) Any of the ship's snack bars and dining rooms are much better that the poorly cooked beech food!
Ivan
I love to travel, but for the most part I've planned my own trips over the years, and rented cars to get around. However...
My lady talked me into going on my first cruise ever last summer, from England to Norway on Celebrity. I didn't swoon over the experience, but it was nice. I have to admit it was easy to leave our luggage in our room, and take shore excursions (all sponsored by Celebrity) to sightsee. No glitches whatsoever, and I got to see a part of the world I would not have seen otherwise. This summer, we're going to take another cruise, to Alaska this time. The shore excursions look really interesting, and I'm looking forward to the trip.
Whether or not the passengers in this story screwed up, whether or not they were late, Norwegian bought itself a boatload (pun intended) of bad publicity here. Those folks had left their medications, their valuables, their clothes and toiletries, on the ship, and then had to travel overland to catch up with the ship. The cruise line looks callous and cold at best, not an image anybody in the hospitality industry should covet.
There's another aspect to this as well. Those Americans were stranded in a part of the world that ain't exactly a place I would want to be stranded. In fact, the US State Department has travel warnings posted for a number of countries in West Africa. This could have ended even more badly than it did.
Cross Norwegian off my list...
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My lady talked me into going on my first cruise ever last summer, from England to Norway on Celebrity. I didn't swoon over the experience, but it was nice. I have to admit it was easy to leave our luggage in our room, and take shore excursions (all sponsored by Celebrity) to sightsee. No glitches whatsoever, and I got to see a part of the world I would not have seen otherwise. This summer, we're going to take another cruise, to Alaska this time. The shore excursions look really interesting, and I'm looking forward to the trip.
Whether or not the passengers in this story screwed up, whether or not they were late, Norwegian bought itself a boatload (pun intended) of bad publicity here. Those folks had left their medications, their valuables, their clothes and toiletries, on the ship, and then had to travel overland to catch up with the ship. The cruise line looks callous and cold at best, not an image anybody in the hospitality industry should covet.
There's another aspect to this as well. Those Americans were stranded in a part of the world that ain't exactly a place I would want to be stranded. In fact, the US State Department has travel warnings posted for a number of countries in West Africa. This could have ended even more badly than it did.
Cross Norwegian off my list...
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“After what we witnessed, we truly believe there is a set of rules or policies that the ship may have followed — they followed those rules too rigidly,”
I can't see a problem.
“I really feel that they forgot they are people working in the hospitality industry and that really the safety and wellbeing of their customers should be their first priority,” she added, claiming the crew of the ship had a “basic duty of care that they had forgotten about.”
I wonder how the other passengers felt about hanging around. Being on big boats berthed at idle ain't fun.
“The captain could have made an easy decision to turn one of the tender boats back, pick us up, safely load us and then go on the way,” Campbell said.
I'll give 'em credit if they kept a straight while making this absurd statement.
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