In My 100 acre wood area, regular 87 is $3.20 to $3.55 with 93 octane going for
$4.05 to $4.20. Of course my new truck uses 93 octane.
$4.05 to $4.20. Of course my new truck uses 93 octane.
Gas prices...
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coltle6920
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Having to deal with higher fuel costs still has to be better than going without. At least you know where you stand.
The 70's had to be the worst times for most of us. If you were lucky enough to find a gas station that had gas there were long lines. Then there were the odd and even days. People switched license plates so they could get gas when needed.
The station I frequented back then tried to be fair to everyone by imposing a $5 limit on each vehicle. Doesn't sound like much but when gas only went for 30cents per gallon it wasn't bad. The station never ran out out of gas. Always had my repairs done at this place. When done with whatever the mechanic pulled my car out to the pumps and filled it up. It paid to patronize them. They weren't there to just pump gas.
Same goes for all these minimarts out there. You might just find lower prices where there's just as much business inside as at the pumps.
The 70's had to be the worst times for most of us. If you were lucky enough to find a gas station that had gas there were long lines. Then there were the odd and even days. People switched license plates so they could get gas when needed.
The station I frequented back then tried to be fair to everyone by imposing a $5 limit on each vehicle. Doesn't sound like much but when gas only went for 30cents per gallon it wasn't bad. The station never ran out out of gas. Always had my repairs done at this place. When done with whatever the mechanic pulled my car out to the pumps and filled it up. It paid to patronize them. They weren't there to just pump gas.
Same goes for all these minimarts out there. You might just find lower prices where there's just as much business inside as at the pumps.
bushmaster1313
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At our local Town Pump premium is $0.60 more. Ethanol free is $1.00 more. At the Helena Costco ethanol free premium runs $0.30 more. Someone is making buck, and as an Exxon shareholder it isn't me.
My dad drove a tanker for Esso and then Exxon for many years. He came home and told us countless customers told him that very same thing, which is not true.
The problem with that is that Exxon would buy gasoline for different wholesalers every day depending on spot price for that day.
So, he goes to Dundalk tank farm and this morning Exxon buys product from Tenneco and tomorrow Chevron..The next day they may buy from themselves and the next day from Chevron.
In other words, gasoline is basically gasoline.
Bad gas happens to every brand and is often a fault with the gas station storage and delivery rather than the actual fuel. Sam's gas doesn't come from Charlie's Cheapo Reprocessed Gas store. They contracted with major suppliers.
As for Texaco, it was the one brand of gas my '64 GTO refused to run on in high school. Haven't bought it since.
Prices in my area are roughly around $3.59. I say roughly because prices can vary 20 cents a gallon from county to county,
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Living out in the boonies we pay more. If at all possible we try to get gas when going into a more populated area.
There is a gas station not too far from a couple of big launch sights so many boaters stop there to get gas. They would rather tow the boat with low gas for the weight advantage and fill up close to the lake.
Its a big lake so we get big fast boats. Most boaters want and get none E gas. Its a decent amount of money spent to put in about a 100+ gallons of close to $5 a gallon. Course its much cheaper to get it there than in the water. Getting it at a marina another $1.40 a gallon over land price will be a normal charge.
The land gas station normally gets their tanks filled up every good weather Friday or Sat night.
Just returned to TN from a trip north. Gas in IL ranged from maybe $3.40 to $3.80 outside of the big cities so it was nice to get home and see prices around $3.00. Never thought we'd get to the point of celebrating $3.00 gas but here we are. Our roadmobile is a 2020 Ford Expedition which is great for all of our stuff and a 90 pound puppy, and surprisingly during our 1600 mile journey it averaged just under 21 mpg. Actually pretty happy with that.
I don't know how oil came to be/comes to be. I do know that there is quite a bit left, and that my quadrennial vote would affect the price, if I lived in a swing state. I am also very suspicious of alternative energy sources, especially for automobiles, although I do suspect that there are some.
I base my unwarranted assumption of moral superiority on my views of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, not on any assumption of knowledge of the complexities of energy production or the design of the universe.
YMMV.
I base my unwarranted assumption of moral superiority on my views of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, not on any assumption of knowledge of the complexities of energy production or the design of the universe.
YMMV.
SnidelyWhiplash
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About two years ago there was a study released by the US Geological Survey office that stated there is at minimum several hundred years of oil left in North America using established methods of extraction. That doesn't mean it's all easy to get but it's there. It just takes the political will to do so...and ignoring the naysayers.
Of course...while the report was issued it was little publicized as it doesn't follow that desired narrative of the powers that be.
Of course...while the report was issued it was little publicized as it doesn't follow that desired narrative of the powers that be.
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Jack Flash
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Funny how "Follow the Science" only applies when they agree with the results.
LVSteve
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The only time I've seen gas from a non-mainstream oil company was in the UK where the chemical company ICI had gas stations. Seems that they bought crude for their business and gasoline was a by-product. The chairman of ICI once said out loud that in business terms he could sell the gas for a lot less, but then it might suddenly get difficult to buy crude for his core business.
Probably wouldn't have made much difference as about 60% of what you pay in the UK is various taxes and duties.
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coltle6920
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That's the only line in your post I would agree with. Before being dispensed into a tanker for delivery all gas is basically the same.
Companies like Exxon and Shell have additives/detergents added in before delivery to a station making them different from other gasolines. If it wasn't true they would've been sued into bankruptcy for false advertising.
Numerous studies have also proven that some gasolines keep the engines valves free of carbon deposits longer than others. This fact is undisputable.
My car gets the good stuff (ethanol free). Unfortunately they charge more for the non-watered down gas.
Except, I didn't say that. ..I said all gasoline is basically the same....And it is and always will be. You added the rest to my statement.
And...No...It's not true, trust me. You are a victim of marketing just like everyone my father talked to on a weekly basis. There is secret behind retail marketing versus wholesale bulk sales.
What I explained is marketing and advertising and not truth....For example "Chevron with Textron" is nothing different than any other gasoline. They all have detergent and they all have octane and refining standards..More importantly, gasoline simply has to meet octane standards and ethanol levels that are checked by state inspectors randomly at gas stations and at a wholesale level.
Before my 20+ year law enforcement career, I worked for Flowers Industries for about 6 years...On any given day, I transported 6 pack cherry/cheese danish all day long. If the order was for Sunbeam at $2.49 and went to Massachusetts, then it would be dayglo priced at $2.49 and several thousand packs would be shipped with a Sunbeam label...fast forward ten minutes, a 125,000 six pack order was started with "Dixie Darling" labels for .99 cents and this order would go to Alabama and Florida for a multiple shift run....Same exact danishes, different label and double and a half the price.
This is called confirmation bias...Believing something that you believe is definitely true, whether it is true or not...This is why branding is a thing and successful, even when it's the same.
The days of every fifth vehicle on the road fouling plugs and having to pull in the Mayberry filling station to have your points sanded are over and have been for decades.
I can always tell people that have not worked behind the curtain and are only used to retail sales of products.
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I don’t look,I just fill it up and go…of course,I’ve only driven 12000 miles in the last two years lol
notsofast
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I’m retired and I don’t need to or go many places, I filled my truck up a couple months ago and it still has more than half a tank. But yes stuff is expensive these days.
PA has some of the highest gasoline taxes in the country. Drop down to Maryland and the price of gasoline drops 30 cents a gallon.
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coltle6920
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Notice that I'm only agreeing that all gasoline is basically the same but only until it leaves the refinery. I'm not going to play semantics with you. There are minimum Federal standards that must be met regarding octane,ethanol and detergents. That's a given which can't be argued. The added detergents are the difference. There's a minimun standard but more can be added.
As cars and trucks evolved technically carmakers asked for better gasoline to make their vehicles as efficient as possible. That's where Top Tier gas comes in. Top Tier gas has more additives like detergents that sets it apart from other gas products. That also is not debatable. Do your research.
Again I'll say that all gas is the same (Fed standards) until it leaves the refinery. Exxon has an additive package that they require in their fuel that sets it apart from most other fuels.
It's not marketing as you would suggest but independent lab testing. I did my research and it isn't based on what I've been told.
I'm done here.
