King Sighted Guns ... and a Corny King Poem

Please excuse the (colt), its my only King sighted gun.



King marked Cockeyed hammer, short action, sanderson grips.

My first revolver purchase after getting out of the army was a Colt Officer's Match piece like this without Sandersons. Most accurate revolver I've ever owned, I traded it back to the dealer that sold it to me for a Colt Trooper .357 and a box of shells...the red flags and warning buzzers should have gone off because he never gave anyone a deal. Later when I noticed the piece in his "special" case with a highly marked up price and mentioned it to me he replied "King don't work anymore, but you probably didn't know that."
 
Couple quick questions. Who (KB?) made the grips for the RM? Who made the grips for the King Super Police (engraved by Orville Kuhl)? Was it Kuhl ?

Mike:

Yes, the RM grips are an earlier set of Keith Brown's Kearsarge style grips.

I believe that the pearl grips on the 2" King Super Police are factory grips that were added after the gun left the factory. It letters as shipping from the factory with "checkered walnut non-monogram round butt grips." It shipped on Nov 27, 1933 to Adolf Blaich, 583 Market Street, San Francisco, CA, and I have been told that it is among the earliest 2" M&Ps known to have been shipped.

On the other hand, I believe that the grips on the Kuhl engraved K-22 O/D (post 24 above) were carved by Kuhl. They are similar to grips on this Kuhl engraved RM (photographed with the Kuhl K-22 Outdoorsman)...

 
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Mike:

The RM grips are one of the earlier set of Keith Brown's Kearsarge style grips.

I always believed that the pearl grips on the 2" King Super Police were factory grips that were added after the gun left the factory. Working from memory, I believe that it letters as shipping from the factory with standard wood grips. The 2"er shipped on Nov 27, 1933 to Adolf Blaich, a distributer in SF, and I have been told that it is among the earliest 2" M&Ps known to be shipped.

On the other hand, I believe that the grips on the Kuhl engraved K-22 O/D (post 24 above) were carved by Kuhl. They are similar to grips on this Kuhl engraved RM...



... here they are together...


SPECTACULAR!!
Larry
 
Damn I had to wipe the drool off my computer screen 3 times before I got to the end of this thread. Thanks to all for showing some nice firearms.

Gary
 
Thanks to the last resuscitation of the thread here we have a spectacular show of awesome sights, hammers and grips all together. I apologize for the off topic question: in Europe I think they never arrived, apart some single collectors maybe. Anyway, even if someone imported a King sighted handgun, never showed it and kept it for himself. In other words, only EU members of this forum know these magnificent optionals.
Since my first arrival here, several years ago, I've been attracted by all this vintage stuff, and thanks to you all I learned their history. I have been solicited by a writer of one of our national main firearms magazine to write an article about this topic, so, before or after, I'll do it. I'd like to publish some pics to embellish the text and describe them.
I believe it is fair to ask for permission to use the pictures posted here or in others posts of the forum. Please tell me if you agree , or if someone prefers to avoid sharing them. Thanks,
Giorgio
 
I believe it is fair to ask for permission to use the pictures posted here or in others posts of the forum. Please tell me if you agree , or if someone prefers to avoid sharing them. Thanks,
Giorgio
Giorgio, I don't think I posted any photos of my one and only King sighted S&W, but I will endeavor to unearth it from my safe, and try to take a few pics of it for you...In the meantime, you have not only my permission, but my encouragement also to use any of my photos I've posted on this site for any article you may write...:)...Ben
 
...I have been solicited by a writer of one of our national main firearms magazine to write an article about this topic, so, before or after, I'll do it. I'd like to publish some pics to embellish the text and describe them.
I believe it is fair to ask for permission to use the pictures posted here or in others posts of the forum. Please tell me if you agree , or if someone prefers to avoid sharing them. Thanks,
Giorgio

Feel free to use my photos as well. :) That said - it is typical that you would give the photographer credit in the photo captions.
 
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Honestly my Dad didn't have much to add about this 38-44. Haven't seen too many sleeved front sights from Kings floating around.

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She sure shoots well though!

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Beautiful gun. As a 38/44 collector and a King collector, I would LOVE to have one like that in my collection! Thank you for the additional photos and for sharing that beauty.

Caleb (Modified) posted photos of a similar 1917 (with the King Super Police package) in post 20 of this thread:

https://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-r...are-yours.html?highlight=modified+front+sight

King Super Police 1917 with Walrus



 
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Interesting timing. I just picked up a 2nd model with a v notch rear sight and a gold bead front.

Has anyone seen that combination before?

All my other king guns have the square notch rear and the red reflector front sight.
 
Interesting timing. I just picked up a 2nd model with a v notch rear sight and a gold bead front.

Has anyone seen that combination before?

All my other king guns have the square notch rear and the red reflector front sight.

Let's see some photos... please.:D
 
New Colt this weekend!

Looks like I'm a King accumulator now! Just picked up the Colt Officers Model .38 Heavy Barrel from gun jail(have you heard that CA sucks for gun people?) this last Saturday and now I have complimentary 6" Super Targets. The S&W is based on a M&P Target and is wearing KB Ropers.

Next order of business is to find a set of similar grips for the colt and load up a pile of .38 wadcutters to get these things to the range.

Cheers!
 

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The recent RIA auction had a bunch of KST guns (many from the Jon Maxwell collection). Hopefully many of them ended up in the collections of members of this forum. And hopefully those of you who bought them will post a few photos of them here on the forum.

With all of those KSTs trading hands, I thought I'd bump this thread to the top with a copy of Ralph's post about his KST TL. It is a BEAUTIFUL KST - one of the nicest ones out there.

RKmesa put up pictures of this one on another thread a while back in response to a request from a member. Then he opined it deserved its own thread. Okay, but it'd be nice if it had any sort of story to tell---aside from being pretty spiffy.

Terry Wagner sent some pictures of a 1st Model Single Shot to me a while back. It's drop dead gorgeous---and was carrying Ropers----and an Olympic barrel (Yep---a 1st Model with an Olympic barrel!!)----and had been shipped to Dr. So&So, a famous champion target shooter. Now THAT is something that deserves its own thread!!

This one, on the other hand--------------------------------------------------------------------------------???

I've wanted one of these for a long time----couldn't make a compelling case why I actually needed one---but I've never been one to be confused by facts.

So anyhow----here's this rug. The tag says TRIPLE LOCK KING on it. I open it----and I am SMITTEN!!! I suppose I always thought in terms of a K frame version, but we all have to make sacrifices.

Take a look, and you'll see what I mean.

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... and a photo with a different background that highlights the beautiful color in the ivory:

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This one left the mother ship in 1915---went to distributor in NYC---from there to a retailer somewhere----and from there to a consumer. How'm I doing so far?

And right about here is where things get peculiar. By all appearances, it went into a sock drawer then----and it stayed there until August 23, 1938----or sometime after---August 23, 1938 being the patent date on the rib. Then it was treated to a trip to San Francisco where a milling machine had its way with it. When you pop the rib off, and have a look, you can't help but be impressed by the sheer genius of the folks who thought it up, and those who did the work. All things considered, it had to have been jigged off the bore centerline, and it was all downhill after that----and then it was shipped back to wherever it came from.

At this point, by all appearances, aside from test firing at S&W, and again at King, the gun had never been fired. The turn line suggests it had been played with a bit, but that's it.

So--------------now this sucker is ready to go!! And where did it go? It went right back into the sock drawer---and as it stands today---right here and right now, aside from the testing---it's never been fired---at least not so you'd notice.

There was a time when I decided all my guns needed to be sighted in. That led to weekly trips to the range with a bag of guns for a while. That in turn led to more like work than fun, and it stopped. Maybe it'd be fun to do it again----with just this one.

EPILOGUE: These are the first pictures of a gun I've ever taken----and the first of anything at all I've taken since film went out of style----more than a few years!! It was a bit of a challenge to learn enough about these new fangled cameras, but having sat here for more than a few years since my son gave it to me, I decided I should at least open the box. The first thing I learned is what you see isn't necessarily what you get. The first two pictures are what you get. The last one (with the white background) is what you see----AND what you get---which is to say that's what the gun really looks like---the colors are right (and the white background is the only difference). I don't understand all I know about that, so I'll study on it for a spell to decide if I care. If a white background is the answer (as it appears to be), I'm not all that driven to know why---at least not right now.

Ralph Tremaine

Here's a link to the whole thread, if you'd like to read more:

https://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-h....html?highlight=King+Super+Target+Triple+lock
 
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