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"An external safety switch". Yes, quite the expert. FML
Discuss the Bodyguard 2.0 thumb safety
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CommunismDelendaEst
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Mine was stiff as could be but loosened up to a suitable level nearly immediately.
Work on it and you will discover it "working in" like a baseball glove.
I just wish that they would pick a direction.
BG, Sig P938, 1911, Kimber Solo, down.
P85, PPK, 6906, up.
The BG is a pocket carry and is always off due to the trigger pull, as is the 6906 which is always holster carry.
The P938 is always on even in the holster being carried cocked and locked.
The P85 and PPK are off simply because they are not carry firearms but home use rapid response in my never children present home and are safety down and again, enough trigger pull required that you are not going to ND it.
Hammer or no hammer, safety or no safety, we choose to our comfort level.
What a wonderful world.
BG, Sig P938, 1911, Kimber Solo, down.
P85, PPK, 6906, up.
The BG is a pocket carry and is always off due to the trigger pull, as is the 6906 which is always holster carry.
The P938 is always on even in the holster being carried cocked and locked.
The P85 and PPK are off simply because they are not carry firearms but home use rapid response in my never children present home and are safety down and again, enough trigger pull required that you are not going to ND it.
Hammer or no hammer, safety or no safety, we choose to our comfort level.
What a wonderful world.
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I have a Glock 42 and a new BG 2.0.
The BG noticeably lighter. Too light for a pocket gun in a pocket holster in my opinion. That’s why I prefer the safety.
Am waiting for an aftermarket thumb safety for the BG. The factory one on mine is way too stiff, and needs to stick out a little more.
LVSteve
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The guy in the video was quoting what the woman said. My memory may be faulty, but I think late wife#1 said much the same thing.
smoothshooter
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I have worked mine maybe a thousand times while watching TV or driving down the road with it empty. It has improved some, but is stil too stiff.
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Just one BG2.0 experience
Wow… I read through many posts on the BG2.0. This is just my worthless opinion. I’m simply sharing my experience and not attempting to create a debate, disagree with any other opinion or experience, or intentionally disparage Smith & Wesson.
I bought my BG2.0, no manual safety, in August. This is the first S&W firearm I’ve purchased. I’ve owned firearms since 1977. On a new firearm, I always field strip, carefully clean and lubricate as directed by the “Safety & Instruction Manual”. I also disassemble the mags, clean and lightly lube them. I discovered the 12-round mag follower defect right away and fixed by trimming off the little point on the follower. Upon reassembly, I also noticed the issue of getting the guide rod spring assembly to seat into the end of the slide. I’ve never experienced that with any firearm I’ve owned. It took me several frustrating attempts before I discovered the cause. After pressing the end of the twisted spring under the guide rod flange with a screwdriver and centering the spring on the guide rod flange it finally seated on the barrel.
The next issue was the amount of grip and pull it took to rack the slide, it was insane! I actually drew blood 3 times getting my finger caught in the ejection port while trying to rack the slide. After about 200 rounds with 3 different bullets, it shot flawlessly. My shots landed low left. I researched more YouTube videos and viewed about 10 more reviews. I saw that my issues were now being posted on multiple independent reviews. One reviewer explained the issue with the design of the trigger safety. It is a thin flat paddle and is wider than the trigger. This is a concern for being too easily able to pull the safety against the trigger causing an unintended discharge. I noticed that after about 100 rounds at the range, the sharp edges of the trigger safety caused some unusual pain in my trigger finger. The front sight could be brighter. The rear sight slot allows finding the front sight very quickly. For me, in a sudden close encounter self-defense situation, the first shot or two will most likely be a “point and shoot”.
I called S&W Customer Support and the rep I spoke with offered to send out a new guide rod spring assembly. When I explained the issues I experienced she expressed no empathy and was not interested in my feedback. After 16 days I received it and it’s just like the original one. I noticed there is a photo of a new narrow trigger safety on their website - S&W BODYGUARD 2.0 NTS, SKU# 13927. I called S&W about the narrow paddle on the trigger safety and there is no option but to buy another BG2.0. This gun is marketed as a super light pocket carry for self-defense. It’s not for competition, hunting, or range fun. S&W has been manufacturing firearms for 170 years. It is incomprehensible that they could release a firearm strictly designed for self-defense with obvious design defects. Surprisingly, I believe this pistol has been voted “2024 Handgun of the Year” by two different organizations.
The grip with the 12-round mag, texturing, mag release, trigger feel, light weight, short range accuracy, concealability, all make this handgun very comfortable to shoot and pocket carry. At 15.3 ounces with 13 rounds, it is a feature-rich pocket carry option. With the Muddy River Tactical, Kydex custom fit for the BG2.0 pocket holster, it feels very comfortable in my pocket and makes a very safe draw.
However, the oversized trigger safety paddle and the light trigger pull at 2 lbs. 8.48 ounces, I’m still concerned about an accidental discharge. The negative reports on the manual safety and my own experience with manual safety on an EDC makes the manual safety not an option on this pistol. Unfortunately, the amount of force required to rack the slide may eliminate this pocket carry as good choice for some females. Based upon my experience and the many reviews that are published I’m not sure this is the right pocket carry for me. It is very unlikely that I will buy another S&W firearm. As one of the top 5 firearm brands, and the most raved about new handgun, I’m very disappointed in the quality control and design choices of Smith & Wesson.
Wow… I read through many posts on the BG2.0. This is just my worthless opinion. I’m simply sharing my experience and not attempting to create a debate, disagree with any other opinion or experience, or intentionally disparage Smith & Wesson.
I bought my BG2.0, no manual safety, in August. This is the first S&W firearm I’ve purchased. I’ve owned firearms since 1977. On a new firearm, I always field strip, carefully clean and lubricate as directed by the “Safety & Instruction Manual”. I also disassemble the mags, clean and lightly lube them. I discovered the 12-round mag follower defect right away and fixed by trimming off the little point on the follower. Upon reassembly, I also noticed the issue of getting the guide rod spring assembly to seat into the end of the slide. I’ve never experienced that with any firearm I’ve owned. It took me several frustrating attempts before I discovered the cause. After pressing the end of the twisted spring under the guide rod flange with a screwdriver and centering the spring on the guide rod flange it finally seated on the barrel.
The next issue was the amount of grip and pull it took to rack the slide, it was insane! I actually drew blood 3 times getting my finger caught in the ejection port while trying to rack the slide. After about 200 rounds with 3 different bullets, it shot flawlessly. My shots landed low left. I researched more YouTube videos and viewed about 10 more reviews. I saw that my issues were now being posted on multiple independent reviews. One reviewer explained the issue with the design of the trigger safety. It is a thin flat paddle and is wider than the trigger. This is a concern for being too easily able to pull the safety against the trigger causing an unintended discharge. I noticed that after about 100 rounds at the range, the sharp edges of the trigger safety caused some unusual pain in my trigger finger. The front sight could be brighter. The rear sight slot allows finding the front sight very quickly. For me, in a sudden close encounter self-defense situation, the first shot or two will most likely be a “point and shoot”.
I called S&W Customer Support and the rep I spoke with offered to send out a new guide rod spring assembly. When I explained the issues I experienced she expressed no empathy and was not interested in my feedback. After 16 days I received it and it’s just like the original one. I noticed there is a photo of a new narrow trigger safety on their website - S&W BODYGUARD 2.0 NTS, SKU# 13927. I called S&W about the narrow paddle on the trigger safety and there is no option but to buy another BG2.0. This gun is marketed as a super light pocket carry for self-defense. It’s not for competition, hunting, or range fun. S&W has been manufacturing firearms for 170 years. It is incomprehensible that they could release a firearm strictly designed for self-defense with obvious design defects. Surprisingly, I believe this pistol has been voted “2024 Handgun of the Year” by two different organizations.
The grip with the 12-round mag, texturing, mag release, trigger feel, light weight, short range accuracy, concealability, all make this handgun very comfortable to shoot and pocket carry. At 15.3 ounces with 13 rounds, it is a feature-rich pocket carry option. With the Muddy River Tactical, Kydex custom fit for the BG2.0 pocket holster, it feels very comfortable in my pocket and makes a very safe draw.
However, the oversized trigger safety paddle and the light trigger pull at 2 lbs. 8.48 ounces, I’m still concerned about an accidental discharge. The negative reports on the manual safety and my own experience with manual safety on an EDC makes the manual safety not an option on this pistol. Unfortunately, the amount of force required to rack the slide may eliminate this pocket carry as good choice for some females. Based upon my experience and the many reviews that are published I’m not sure this is the right pocket carry for me. It is very unlikely that I will buy another S&W firearm. As one of the top 5 firearm brands, and the most raved about new handgun, I’m very disappointed in the quality control and design choices of Smith & Wesson.
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When the local rental range put one out, I gave it a try in comparison with other hideout guns.
It did not take long for my forefinger to sting from "trigger slap."
The pull was not as light as some I have read of, I would not mind pocket carry NTS. P365 was too light.
Tough to rack the slide but the Hellcat was a lot worse.
It did not take long for my forefinger to sting from "trigger slap."
The pull was not as light as some I have read of, I would not mind pocket carry NTS. P365 was too light.
Tough to rack the slide but the Hellcat was a lot worse.
Hmmmm... I did not think about trigger slap causing the discomfort to my trigger finger. I will definitely watch for this next range day.
Thank you Mr. Watson.
Hello agksimon,
I see how it works. When I get to the point that I can't rack a slide on my EDC, I'll have to trade it in on an LCR.
Mine out of the box is 4.75 pounds (measured with weights)
A lot of new guns have glitches when they first come out. Sig 365,320, Ruger and others. S&W is no exception.
As the complaints come in the problems are usually resolved.
It’s like buying a car the year of a complete model change. Anyone remember the issues with water leaks on the Pontiac Firebird T tops?
That’s one reason I never purchase a gun or car when first introduced.
Keep those comments coming! Some people at S&W can read.
P.S. I have already posted my thoughts on thumb safety’s in this thread. Enjoy your new 2.0 Bodyguards!
As the complaints come in the problems are usually resolved.
It’s like buying a car the year of a complete model change. Anyone remember the issues with water leaks on the Pontiac Firebird T tops?
That’s one reason I never purchase a gun or car when first introduced.
Keep those comments coming! Some people at S&W can read.
P.S. I have already posted my thoughts on thumb safety’s in this thread. Enjoy your new 2.0 Bodyguards!
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Somewhere a group of hard-core S&W shooters are gathered around a table sketching out an improved safety lever for the Bodyguard 2.0 pistol. Due to the miracle of 3-D printing, you will be able to by one for only $89.00 on eBay. Aftermarket gun parts and accessories are the last frontier for American tinkerers.
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Bodyguard 2 Safety Impossible to Use
The safety on my new Bodyguard 2 is worthless. It requires thumb and first finger of left hand on opposite sides to engage and disengage while holding grip with right hand. Extreme pressure is required to achieve movement. I would never dare to carry with safety engaged because of time required to release the safety.
I have skipped other options and decided to return pistol to S&W for service repair. I have the RMA from S&W (received in one day, fast). Free shipping via FedEx is tomorrow.
My suspicion is that the safety is a cad-cam design fast created to meet local government requirements. I also suspect that production pieces are not passing inspection but are being shipped anyway.
I have also requested to have the slide release improved as it locks up after partial movement and does not allow slide to close.
I believe S&W forgets that women are potential owners and their designs and products need to accommodate female strength.
I will update with results, hopefully in 2-3 weeks.
The safety on my new Bodyguard 2 is worthless. It requires thumb and first finger of left hand on opposite sides to engage and disengage while holding grip with right hand. Extreme pressure is required to achieve movement. I would never dare to carry with safety engaged because of time required to release the safety.
I have skipped other options and decided to return pistol to S&W for service repair. I have the RMA from S&W (received in one day, fast). Free shipping via FedEx is tomorrow.
My suspicion is that the safety is a cad-cam design fast created to meet local government requirements. I also suspect that production pieces are not passing inspection but are being shipped anyway.
I have also requested to have the slide release improved as it locks up after partial movement and does not allow slide to close.
I believe S&W forgets that women are potential owners and their designs and products need to accommodate female strength.
I will update with results, hopefully in 2-3 weeks.
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My BG2 has a 4 lbs. 2.4 ozs trigger pull.
Tested with a Lyman and a Wheeler digital trigger pull tester.
After 7 pulls each, averaged the numbers.
Is a 4 lbs. 2.4 ozs. trigger pull on a pocket carry too light?
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I just got mine with TS and it's damn near perfect after 2 days of just flicking it back and forth. More force required to activate it but still easily done with one hand. Deactivating it upon a draw is super easy and I know it will be second nature in no time. Both ways have a very satisfying and reassuring click.
Either we have different manufacturing tolerances or our hand/grip strength is much different.
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