After 25 years …no Internal Lock!

[Bobbysixkiller]

Just think of the possibilities if they just look at what people really want. It's a good step in the right direction

 

[Rakkasan13F]

I'm all in for a new 3 inch model 13. Hell I might buy 2 or more. Bring back a 2 inch model 10. I'll buy 2 just to bob the hammer on one for ccw.

I would definitely be interested in a factory DAO 3" 65 without a lock.

 

[ladder13]

Come see me Tuesday at Lipsey's for some more very cool things with no locks.

Sounds like a hint.

 

[Glenn R. McMannly]

The pencil barrel and half moon front on the 10 is hokey.

Just have just us a standard heavy barrel 10 with serrated front instead of trying to make it look like a gun out of production for 50 years.

 

[Puller]

I like 'em, especially that Model 10.

 

[panamajack310]

I wish S&W would come back out with a no lock model 10 & 13 with 3"barrel and round butt.

 

[Rakkasan13F]

I wish S&W would come back out with a no lock model 10 & 13 with 3"barrel and round butt.

Hopefully, the sales of these three models will be high enough to encourage S&W to release others.

 

[nyeti]

Many people who don't want to scuff up dad's old Model 10 will be lining up for a new lock free M10 Classic, and I am in the group! Love the front sight, and I like the grips and the whole Victory Model vibe. And I just bought a new copy of the classic WW2 .38 shoulder holster………

What a great development from S&W. Thank you to Smith & Wesson for listening to what users want.

If we get an Ultimate carry Model 12 Airweight Classic at SHoT Show I will be buying some S&W stock.

Well, somebody got it. That is the whole point. This is a start. The UC project was a start. These are meant to be guns you can shoot the heck out of (and they shoot!) and have both parts and warranty support unlike a lot of the older guns. Leave grandads Victory Model or his old cop gun in the safe and use these. The more practical stuff is coming. There are positive changes coming and they are listening to serious revolver people.
Wait till people see what is coming at Lipsey's.

 

[dsk]

I'm really surprised that a Model 29 wasn't one of the new no-lock guns.

And by the way, what are we going to call these guns going forward? Post-lock Smiths? No-lock Smiths? Redeemed Smiths?

 

[Beju]

I would definitely be interested in a factory DAO 3" 65 without a lock.

If the come out with a DAO 2.5-3" K-frame, I'll buy one as soon as they can be had for MSRP or less.

Heck, Taurus offers bobbed hammer 856 models, why not get in on that game?

 

[SWFan27]

I'm really surprised that a Model 29 wasn't one of the new no-lock guns.

And by the way, what are we going to call these guns going forward? Post-lock Smiths? No-lock Smiths? Redeemed Smiths?

Not much demand for 44 Magnums these days.

 

[ken158]

There's the potential of a downside here...the reason Colt has received criticism for the single-action pull in their new line of revolvers was due to the CA drop-test. S&W avoided that due to the internal lock and the instruction manual stating to leave the gun locked until ready to shoot...so that's how CA drop testers tested it...hammer back with the lock enabled.

There's at least the possibility that should the new revolvers require testing by CA...they may end up modifying the single-action pull much as Colt did. Let's hope not.

Easy enough to fix - just have a California model with all the bells and whistles they want but leave the rest of us alone…

 

[Moo Moo]

Hopefully, they can holt that Davidsons Exclusive Model 20 in time to get the new frame.

 

[NY-1]

The frame contour on J & K frames turns me off! But I think the frame mounted firing pin will prevent the frame contour from returning to the old style. The prelock 627 8 shot guns had a cut off hammer that was exposed after the frame mounted firing pin but before the lock. I hope I am wrong!

I believe you're incorrect. If memory serves there's a revision of the Model 10 with a frame mounted firing pin just before they added the internal locking system. That model has a frame curvature that's slightly altered, but *much* closer to the pre-lock frame curvature than the bloated post-lock models.

Well, somebody got it. That is the whole point. This is a start. The UC project was a start. These are meant to be guns you can shoot the heck out of (and they shoot!) and have both parts and warranty support unlike a lot of the older guns. Leave grandads Victory Model or his old cop gun in the safe and use these. The more practical stuff is coming. There are positive changes coming and they are listening to serious revolver people.
Wait till people see what is coming at Lipsey's.

I can't wait, and thanks for lending your expertise to the industry and Lipsey's to get things moving back in the right direction! I'm incredibly excited about the state of the revolver market, and I'm thrilled that I'll be able to purchase a new K-frame for the first time in my gun-buying life thanks to these models lacking the lock. I hope they can return to the pre-lock frame curvature in due time!

 

[Engine49guy]

I believe the no lock is $110 more than the S&W list price for the current version of the Model 19 Classic, which is $989. I believe the new one is $1099 list price.

I was going by post #64 ,
"I just bought my new Model 19 Classic in December for $940. I am consoling myself with the thought that I saved $160 and $260 when I factor in the $100 rebate I got from S&W. I don't use the lock and just ignore the thing."

I was either $10 high or $90 low if you factor in that they timed the rebate or introduction so buyers would not qualify for the $100 rebate.

 

[SWFan27]

I was going by post #64 ,
"I just bought my new Model 19 Classic in December for $940. I am consoling myself with the thought that I saved $160 and $260 when I factor in the $100 rebate I got from S&W. I don't use the lock and just ignore the thing."

I was either $10 high or $90 low if you factor in that they timed the rebate or introduction so buyers would not qualify for the $100 rebate.

The place I got my Model 19 Classic was $50 cheaper than MSRP. The new No Lock Series probably won't start out with much a discount at first, but I am sure they will be had for $1049 or less pretty quickly. If I had not just bought my M19 I am sure I would have been down at my LGS today yelling "take my money!"

 

[Engine49guy]

To be clear three of my favorite revolvers are a 66-5, a 686-5 Mountain gun and a 17-8 Heritage, all were made with all of the new features except for the iL and are great guns.
If SW offers a 686 Mountain gun and a 617 Mountain gun sans lock I will be buying them both.

 

[SWFan27]

To be clear three of my favorite revolvers are a 66-5, a 686-5 Mountain gun and a 17-8 Heritage, all were made with all of the new features except for the iL and are great guns.
If SW offers a 686 Mountain gun and a 617 Mountain gun sans lock I will be buying them both.

What defines a Mountain Gun? Are they any different than my 4-inch 617 and 686+? both have locks which have never been used.

 

[Banjo 10-79]

It's good news to me we many of us have complained non stop about the hideous Hilary hole. Now the mother ship has deleted locks on some fan favorites and yet we still gripe. I'm gonna buy my pops a new model 10. No lock and a warranty. I asked and now I will receive. Happiness is a choice.

 

[Model 15-4ever]

...
But while the lock is the biggest reason that stopped me from buying S&W. The other reason is the MIM parts and the two piece barrel....
Got the money burning a hole in my pocket if S&W happens to be scrolling through these comments!

I suggest you buy a pair of flame-retardant skivvies because they ain't never gonna happen.