taz666
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Figure out how to seize the cash.
Open Season on Drug Cartels
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And yet there 414 gangland murders in most recent year, as opposed to over 16,000 other murders.
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/shr
Remember the New Jersey drone emergency? A slow news cycle creates all kinds of emergencies.
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/shr
Remember the New Jersey drone emergency? A slow news cycle creates all kinds of emergencies.
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Legalizing marijuana was the worst thing that ever happened to Colorado. And obviously we were heading left before marijuana was legalized but after marijuana was legalized Colorado went hard blue because of all the lefties moving in here from other states
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One of the ironies of the legalization movement is that the legal sellers find themselves undercut by the illegal sellers who don't have to comply with the regulations, pay the taxes, and offer a product with more "kick" which means states have to divert more law enforcement efforts to go after them.
And states like Colorado and California have found that MJ cultivation is very water intensive, when you don't get your rain and snowfall....I note the rather obscure legal area of riparian rights has become very relevant now.
And states like Colorado and California have found that MJ cultivation is very water intensive, when you don't get your rain and snowfall....I note the rather obscure legal area of riparian rights has become very relevant now.
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Other countries have mostly solved the problems of drug use. Japan, Red China, Singapore to name a few. They throw addicts in jail cold turkey, until they are quite drug free. It is not a pleasant experience. Rinse and repeat as necessary. Pushers and dealers they execute. It all seems to work fairly well compared to what we do.
LVSteve
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I must express a large amount of skepticism about what I see on that website. First there is this:
"Victim's Relationship To The Offender, Unknown, 12,361"
What now? Are we saying that LE and the justice system either does not know or fails to report (for some strange reason) the relationship between the deceased and their killer in over 2/3 of murders? That is utterly ridiculous.
Then we have:
"All instances where the facts provided do not permit determination of circumstances, 8,436."
Again, what is going wrong with the reporting process, or are we saying that all these killings are unsolved?
More on reporting. My observation is that when it comes to drug, gangland, and juvenile gang killings, it often takes close to an act of parliament to get the deaths listed as such. We clearly had a gang war here in Vegas in 2008. One of the local news shows came very close to calling it such. However, word was that if they ever wanted to attend a crime scene or LE controlled news conference, it was best they didn't say so out loud.
I would reckon a good number of gangland and drug killings get buried in "Other argument" or "All instances..." I mentioned above.
Where's your data? The FBI data, while never perfect, has been consistently gathered by local agencies since 1931.
Also know that about 35% of homicides per year are never solved - in this example that means just under 6,000 (of 16,000).
Also know that about 35% of homicides per year are never solved - in this example that means just under 6,000 (of 16,000).
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Ala "Clear And Present Danger" with Harrison Ford.
Great. Then we're Russia.
Let's see....we buy the dope, we hire the illegals, and over 90% of cartel weaponry comes from the US.
It must be them.
Let's see....we buy the dope, we hire the illegals, and over 90% of cartel weaponry comes from the US.
It must be them.
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Rather than a long sociological statement, I'll be brief.
There have been mind/mood altering beverages/drugs as long as man has been able to find/make them.
A relatively few folks have had the capability to turn the supply side into big business.
There's a lot of enabling factors on the demand side. A lack of self discipline is probably the most common. And, if it can be considered separate, a lack of focus. Maybe the "winter is coming" mindset.
There have been mind/mood altering beverages/drugs as long as man has been able to find/make them.
A relatively few folks have had the capability to turn the supply side into big business.
There's a lot of enabling factors on the demand side. A lack of self discipline is probably the most common. And, if it can be considered separate, a lack of focus. Maybe the "winter is coming" mindset.
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Legalization and taxing has really never worked. Look at alcohol and gambling. North Carolina and others states "sold" the lottery as a tax revenue windfall for education. Schools have not improved one bit.
Its a slippery slope, what next, prostitution, murder for hire?
Like most everything else FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Its a slippery slope, what next, prostitution, murder for hire?
Like most everything else FOLLOW THE MONEY.
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I have read that domestic violence calls are the most dangerous for LEOs, why not legalize that ?
The same people who claim legalizing drugs would eliminate crime also claim outlawing firearms possession would stop crime.
The same people who claim legalizing drugs would eliminate crime also claim outlawing firearms possession would stop crime.
YeshuaIsa53
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Once we get up in years, we are allowed to look back, compare, decipher, and place a knowledgeable amount of data before ourselves regarding drugs. Where are the wise in this world? Where are those who know about things enough to say whether to legalize pot or drugs? Who are they? How many have walked the road to understanding this? How many would rather just leave things be?
There is a lot to consider when reviewing this problem. What exactly is the problem? We could write pages about problems and share our experiences with each other, which is fine.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to (help) change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. copied
Serenity is not freedom from the storm, but peace amid the storm. copied
Peace amid a storm does not accept the storm. If we could command the storm, would we? Peace amid a storm is inner peace.
Age has a lot to do with how we view things, both the age of those we are viewing and the age of those viewing. Experience has a lot to do with how we view these things.
Do we wish to help make things easier and better, or are we afraid to get involved? We shouldn't wish to leave things be.
Think about decriminalization. Why? Arresting a kid or adult with a couple of joints of pot really creates jobs. The jobs might be better used doing something else. Surely this cannot be all about taxation, or is it?
Maybe not, as it seems much more involved. Let us leave that thought awhile.
What about pleasing everyone? Is there a way to please everyone? Most likely not. Why even think about it? Wonder how many adults drank a beer before being of age? Yet, we found it best to have limitations.
We set limitations on almost everything. Sex has age limitations and limits. Limitations can be good.
How much money is it costing taxpayers yearly for arresting people with under an ounce of pot? Do we incarcerate them with criminals? Do we label them as criminals? Before answering, look at the questions when buying a gun. This is where many draw a line. What to do about that?
Evidence shows pot to be mind altering. A beer is mind altering. A drink is mind altering. An altered mind has extremes, as do most things. There is a great difference between a mind altered by one beer and the same mind altered by 12 beers. Most people are intelligent enough to carry while straight, whether they had a beer last week or last night. We have laws to enforce this. Most people do not get high while working, for they could get fired. There is a law in our minds that knows when and when not to carry.
Maybe the question about pot by ATF should be removed? Maybe reworded? Let us leave this thought for awhile. How time passes.
There is a lot to consider when reviewing this problem. What exactly is the problem? We could write pages about problems and share our experiences with each other, which is fine.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to (help) change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. copied
Serenity is not freedom from the storm, but peace amid the storm. copied
Peace amid a storm does not accept the storm. If we could command the storm, would we? Peace amid a storm is inner peace.
Age has a lot to do with how we view things, both the age of those we are viewing and the age of those viewing. Experience has a lot to do with how we view these things.
Do we wish to help make things easier and better, or are we afraid to get involved? We shouldn't wish to leave things be.
Think about decriminalization. Why? Arresting a kid or adult with a couple of joints of pot really creates jobs. The jobs might be better used doing something else. Surely this cannot be all about taxation, or is it?
Maybe not, as it seems much more involved. Let us leave that thought awhile.
What about pleasing everyone? Is there a way to please everyone? Most likely not. Why even think about it? Wonder how many adults drank a beer before being of age? Yet, we found it best to have limitations.
We set limitations on almost everything. Sex has age limitations and limits. Limitations can be good.
How much money is it costing taxpayers yearly for arresting people with under an ounce of pot? Do we incarcerate them with criminals? Do we label them as criminals? Before answering, look at the questions when buying a gun. This is where many draw a line. What to do about that?
Evidence shows pot to be mind altering. A beer is mind altering. A drink is mind altering. An altered mind has extremes, as do most things. There is a great difference between a mind altered by one beer and the same mind altered by 12 beers. Most people are intelligent enough to carry while straight, whether they had a beer last week or last night. We have laws to enforce this. Most people do not get high while working, for they could get fired. There is a law in our minds that knows when and when not to carry.
Maybe the question about pot by ATF should be removed? Maybe reworded? Let us leave this thought for awhile. How time passes.
YeshuaIsa53
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Years ago the term "narco-terrorism" was used a bit. This is some serious stuff. Even the wiki dictionaries of the www do not detail the term better, as it simply grew out of proportion. Few would understand how drugs could buy weapons for terrorist organizations, and few talk about it. However different a subject this is, we still must consider the ramifications. We should view this with a different mindset.
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Illegal aliens bounty is $750 per alien that you turn in that is successfully deported by Homeland Security.
There's some guy ordering Uber eats, invites them in and asks a few questions. If they're illegal he locks em in a back room and calls ICE.
He let's em eat the food he ordered while they wait to be picked up.
Saw him on the news of all places, said he's doing very well at it.
There's some guy ordering Uber eats, invites them in and asks a few questions. If they're illegal he locks em in a back room and calls ICE.
He let's em eat the food he ordered while they wait to be picked up.
Saw him on the news of all places, said he's doing very well at it.
Really? You should read up on what happened when the government tried to outlaw alcohol. Are you suggesting that they should try again?
Well said, I have always felt that the drug problem was more of a "keeping the customer satisfied' sort of thing. Supply side economics not withstanding, cut off the interest or desire to alter one's self and you have the problem solved. Legalization of marijuana has long been a no-brainer as far as I was concerned. Easy access to seriously life threatening drugs remains a problem. Part of this issue lies with the readiness of certain doctors to prescribe heavy drugs for something as simple as wisdom tooth removal. The pharmaceutical business is its own problem.
Ugly Hombre
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Don't send US forces into Mexico that would go very bad very fast- Drones etc ok but don't go there. No good would come from it..
