Now, that is a thing, Spec Series V were showing up as out of stock before any had shipped.
But I've also seen the out of stock results for guns that I and other people have literally purchased at the out of stock price.
New 686 Mountain gun
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But I've also seen the out of stock results for guns that I and other people have literally purchased at the out of stock price.
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Run 4-5 full cylinders fairly quickly through it and then measure it once everything is hot. Don't forget metal expands when it heats up...
I purchased a 686 Mountain Gun from my LGS Wednesday. Im friends with the owner of the store. It was the only one he got in. About 2 months ago he received the 629 version and that was the only one he got in as well. He held both for me. He has a very good rapport with the suppliers and gets in guns that many dealers or stores can't. He said he is having trouble getting these mountain guns. He indicated to me that he doesn't think Lipsey and S&W are making that many. But of course he hasn't been officially told that.
So my concern on these guns is the production totals. I think that revolvers are a hot commodity right now and it's possible the company is just trying to keep up with demands. Then you factor in the stupid lock thing. I'm sure S&W doesn't want to flood the market with the no lock guns right now due to current dealer supply of the lock guns.
I'm hoping these mountain guns will be a limited run and collectable in the future but who knows at this point. In any event I think they are very cool and I'm happy to own both.
Mine is in excellent condition. We looked it over very good and saw no factory flaws or problems.
So my concern on these guns is the production totals. I think that revolvers are a hot commodity right now and it's possible the company is just trying to keep up with demands. Then you factor in the stupid lock thing. I'm sure S&W doesn't want to flood the market with the no lock guns right now due to current dealer supply of the lock guns.
I'm hoping these mountain guns will be a limited run and collectable in the future but who knows at this point. In any event I think they are very cool and I'm happy to own both.
Mine is in excellent condition. We looked it over very good and saw no factory flaws or problems.
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I can't post a picture right now, but the gap between the top of the crane and frame on my new 686 MG looks like the OP's. I bought my first new S&W back in the '60s, so have some basis for comparison with earlier production. The gap under discussion does not bother me at all. What would bother me would be a too large B/C gap, end shake, timing/failure to carry up, misfires, etc. I have experienced some of these issues with previous S&Ws, none of these issues with the new MG. Many current enthusiasts seem to think each and every S&W was a work of art back in the day. Well, OK, the blue was nicer; -)
Yes, prices are coming down on the new MG. But some of the prices I've seen on GB; Wow! I thought I might buy one when they got down around MSRP. I did; paid a whole $10.00 under MSRP for mine. Such a deal
Yes, prices are coming down on the new MG. But some of the prices I've seen on GB; Wow! I thought I might buy one when they got down around MSRP. I did; paid a whole $10.00 under MSRP for mine. Such a deal
Doers anybody anymore examine a gun before they buy it?...........Seems they grab it and run........Then complain on the internet about things they overlooked.
I hope they make as many as people want and then some more..........Limited runs always leave people out.
I have a 357-45acp-45LC-44mag mtn guns from the first run......Misted the 617 mtn gun cuz it was kept so secret.
Harry Callahan, the MG pictured in your last post appears to have the same unsightly gap where the upper part of the yoke rests against the left side of the frame - as does the OP’s, as does mine, and every other of these that I have seen. It’s poor machining, in my opinion, but it’s what you get (apparently) if you want one of these things. My gun was a bit of a burr nightmare around the ratchet cuts, but those were easily removed. By me. I’m a new (unpaid) employee at S&W, I guess.
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Has anyone heard whether or not S&W intends to offer the new MG's in .45 Colt?
They did sort of hint at future caliber options in some interviews on them, something like they were "starting out" with a 44 and 357, IIRC.
NOPE! I'm with the OP on this one, just poor fit honestly, you'll never see an early S&W with a gap that large,, OP, I would see if there is somebody in your chain of purchase who will make it right, reminding you that the next 10 may be just as bad or worse? The S&W forum has NOT caused or contributed to the quality control issues facing most manufacturer's todayMy experience with revolvers...Smith & Wesson, Dan Wesson and Ruger over the last 50 years has been...I never even looked at the side crane to frame gap! I always looked at the front gap to tell if the crane had somehow been bent. Which was dumb, since all my revolvers have been bought new. I am not a newbie, but far from an "expert" in all things guns.
Just for the halibut, I looked at my present Ruger, and lo and behold!There WAS a gap between the crane and frame! (Side view) A business card went in with moderate drag, and a 5X7 note card went in with less. It's been that way since new, survived a reliability check from a gunsmith, and is ready in all respects for the next range day.
"Hmmmmm", sez I...have we been too much involved in websites, which are populated with many people new to firearms, and persons such as I, who enjoy shooting our guns, but have not had real problems with any of our firearms? The power of suggestion is great, and after reading of constant present-day Quality Control problems, and guns that don't quite act right, many of which are true, do we see hobgoblins where there are none?
Just wondering.
100% true. A new revolver selling at around $1300 retail shouldn’t look like an apprentice machined the thing. As others have already said, none of my older revolvers, and I have more than a few, purchased over a span of around 40 years or more, have such a yoke-frame gap. Pretty hard to blame the internet on something as obvious as that.
The whole gun is nice!
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If mine has the unsightly gap, I’m going to fill the gap with JB weld. That’ll make it satisfactory. 
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After reading this thread, I pulled out my S&W revolvers to see if any of them had the "unsightly gap" between the top of yoke and frame. Only one did - my oldest, an early 1980's 25-2. No problem sliding a business card into the gap. I still love it regardless.
And this one is gorgeous, makes the OP's issue all the more disgraceful, because we know Smith and Wesson are capable of turning out some beautiful revolvers! They should all be like this at 1500 bucksThe whole gun is nice!
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About three years ago, I order a brand new model 66 3” through Sportsman’s Warehouse. When it arrived a week later, I inspected it and the crane fit was horrendous. Gap was bad to the point of rediculous. I showed them, they agreed, and refunded by payment and said not a problem. Well last January I ordered another 66 Combat Magnum, again through Sportsman’s, and it was excellent. Shoots like a dream, action smooth and light. Life is all about timing? Jim
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I'm late to this party, but I would hazard the suggestion that due to the relocated cylinder lock point to the yoke, there might've been an intentional "relaxing" of the clearance found at the top of the yoke, compared to models that have the front lock located at the tip of the ejector rod. BTW, the clearance at the top of the yoke on my new 686+ Mountain Gun is .011", equivalent to 3 sheets of paper.
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I have a 686 from about '98. I compared the gap under discussion between the '98 gun and the new Mountain gun. The 686 from 25+ years ago had a gap of .007", the new MG .012". So the new gun has a gap .005" more than the older gun.
Boy am I going to give Smith & Wesson a piece of my mind over this atrocious, shameful, egregious, sloppy totally unacceptable workmanship
Boy am I going to give Smith & Wesson a piece of my mind over this atrocious, shameful, egregious, sloppy totally unacceptable workmanship
