Here's a real gem...
Dan Wesson DWX.
Read up on its design. No toggle link. Remarkable pistol!
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Dan Wesson DWX.
Read up on its design. No toggle link. Remarkable pistol!
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Nice lookin' gun! What's the significance of "no toggle link design?" Does "toggle" refer to a trigger safety dingus? it with a 1911 design, right?
(Will edit my newly ordered P226 model above to add SAO, single action only.)
(Will edit my newly ordered P226 model above to add SAO, single action only.)
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I do not know why I would not consider a Les Baer. Maybe it is because I get confused with all the modelsWell for an extra $1k or more is it worth it? Why not a Les Baer?
Up to you and your wallet.
Ya that must be it. I don't own a Rolex
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I think Dan Wesson 1911s are the very best you can buy among production guns without spending considerably more for the semi-custom and custom 1911s. You can never go wrong with a DW even if you have a bunch of custom 1911s; they are a tremendous value, and you have to get really picky to find fault with them.
PauldL
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I owned a Dan Wesson Specialist & it was fantastic- the only thing i didn't like about were the Straight 8 Sights
That being said, I sold the DW & for whatever reason, I got an email from Oryx Arms (when they carried Bul Armory) about getting some of their base 1911's in - i saw the price & for whatever reason, really just a "gut" feeling, I bought a Government Rail model - total cost with shipping $890
Well, the gin finally came & I was a little skeptical at what I may have gotten
Even for less than a grand
Guys, I gotta say; I was flabbergasted!
Lemme say that im a real trigger snob
That being said, I loved my German MasterShop Sig X5's the ones that were actually made in Ekenforde, Germany
They were awesome
This damn $890 Bul Armory reminded me so much of those Excellent German X5's!
The trigger on my Bul breaks creep free - like a glass rod at just under 3 pounds and is super consistent at that!
The slide & action feels like an X5 - like it's bearings - ive never had a 1911 as easy to take down and put together again as this Bul Armory & besides the German X5's its the easiest to shoot 1911 ive ever fired-
And theres not been the first jam, stovepipe, miss-feed, anything since ive had her these years
And she's a freakin shooter too!
I was shocked when I first shot her to be quite honest - guys, yall woukd just have to shoot this gun to see - im not exaggerating- not one bit
Here's the 2nd ever mag I put thru her - the 1st mag would've been as equally as good had i not gotten giddy like a little school girl
10 shot from 7 yards on hind legs with regular ole 230gr ball ammo
*Edit* apologies fellas, darn pics turned sideways on me again
That being said, I sold the DW & for whatever reason, I got an email from Oryx Arms (when they carried Bul Armory) about getting some of their base 1911's in - i saw the price & for whatever reason, really just a "gut" feeling, I bought a Government Rail model - total cost with shipping $890
Well, the gin finally came & I was a little skeptical at what I may have gotten
Even for less than a grand
Guys, I gotta say; I was flabbergasted!
Lemme say that im a real trigger snob
That being said, I loved my German MasterShop Sig X5's the ones that were actually made in Ekenforde, Germany
They were awesome
This damn $890 Bul Armory reminded me so much of those Excellent German X5's!
The trigger on my Bul breaks creep free - like a glass rod at just under 3 pounds and is super consistent at that!
The slide & action feels like an X5 - like it's bearings - ive never had a 1911 as easy to take down and put together again as this Bul Armory & besides the German X5's its the easiest to shoot 1911 ive ever fired-
And theres not been the first jam, stovepipe, miss-feed, anything since ive had her these years
And she's a freakin shooter too!
I was shocked when I first shot her to be quite honest - guys, yall woukd just have to shoot this gun to see - im not exaggerating- not one bit
Here's the 2nd ever mag I put thru her - the 1st mag would've been as equally as good had i not gotten giddy like a little school girl
10 shot from 7 yards on hind legs with regular ole 230gr ball ammo
*Edit* apologies fellas, darn pics turned sideways on me again
PauldL
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Here's a pic of the Bul Armory 1911 TAC as they call it - made in Israel 
I've got a DW Valor V-Bob 9mm. The fit, finish and function are excellent! It doesn't like Winchester Whitebox ammo, but it's been flawless with everything else.
It was my favorite CF range gun, until I picked up an American Sig P210 Target.
It was my favorite CF range gun, until I picked up an American Sig P210 Target.
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Les Baer guns occupy a unique niche. Lower price than the other semi-customs and give nothing away when it comes to accuracy.Well for an extra $1k or more is it worth it? Why not a Les Baer?
Up to you and your wallet.
Ya that must be it. I don't own a Rolex
Where does the price delta come from? LBs are not hand fitted internally as nice. Try Calling LB and saying the gun feels rough before you have run 500 rounds through it. Get back to us with his gentile response, LOL. Until lately the frame had some non-standard dimensions. A high end grip maker will offer grips for those frames. Standard grips will fit but if you know what you are looking at you can tell.
They are good guns, and I am not insulting them or their owners. It is just that the final fit is accomplished by battering the mating surfaces with LB's famous 500 round requirement.
It is up to you.
I do not own a good watch and in fact haven't worn one for years. No original art either.
Oh, I get it! Does not have the removable slide takedown "lever pin" that leads 1911 novices to create "idiot scratches."
Neat!
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PauldL
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Funny you mention that 500 round business- I actually had a gun maker - he makes custom 1911 & 2011 race guns - he told me that 500 round stuff was total horse ****! He said all that was, was Les Baer covering his azz - he then said, (about 1911's in general) either they run or they dont!
And, I would agree!!
I mean can u imagine buying a brand new Les Baer & something happens where you really have to defend yourself and the damn thing jams up??
500 rounds?? That adds a lot more money just at that - personally, I feel its a load a crap just like that race gun maker said - just ridiculous
AJ
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Not sure about the 500 rounds mentioned here. When I was stationed in Calif., I shot with many law enforcement agencies on our ranges at the Weapons Station. Several had a 250 round requirement. The gun had to shoot 250 trouble free rounds before an officer could carry it on the street. Seemed to make sense to me. I guess you could call it a break-in period.
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PauldL
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Well sure, but thats different- its not like saying this thing probably ain't gonna work until you put half a thousand rounds thru it and even then it still might screw up!
A lot different ....
What your talkin about is probably std procedure with many depts
And probably most do fine
And furthermore, from what ive seen those Baers are terrible - and the owner is a real prick - plain & simple
Its a joke imo
Where's Joni_Lynn? I haven't seen her posting in quite a while, but she is a big time Les Baer fan. Would be fun to hear her point of view.
AJ
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Last post was May, 17, 2024. Moved on I would think.
PauldL
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I apologize fellas
It just hard to imagine someone spending that type money on a les Baer- then calling him after putting over 300 400 rounds thru it because all it does is jam up & gettin an azz chewin for your trouble lol
It just hard to imagine someone spending that type money on a les Baer- then calling him after putting over 300 400 rounds thru it because all it does is jam up & gettin an azz chewin for your trouble lol
No worries, PauldL. I think that would PO most anyone. 
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Sounds like …..Cut to fit, beat to suit and paint to match
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I have heard about this for some time. That is why I would not consider them
I hear great things about Dan Wesson’s and my friends who have them speak very highly of them.
I bought myself a used Wilson Combat Bobtail Professional for a 60th birthday present. While it was in the used case, I don't think it had been fired. The original owner had custom ordered it, but when it came in I was told he was not in love with it, so traded it in on another. It was $1,900.00. It has an obvious feel of hand fitting. The slide feels like it’s on ball bearings. Great trigger. Shoots very accurately, but so do my Springfield Armory Trophy Match and my other 1911s. None of my other 1911s feel like the Wilson. Would I buy another or a Nighthawk or whatever - probably not. Dan Wesson would be looked at hard if I was in the market.
I bought myself a used Wilson Combat Bobtail Professional for a 60th birthday present. While it was in the used case, I don't think it had been fired. The original owner had custom ordered it, but when it came in I was told he was not in love with it, so traded it in on another. It was $1,900.00. It has an obvious feel of hand fitting. The slide feels like it’s on ball bearings. Great trigger. Shoots very accurately, but so do my Springfield Armory Trophy Match and my other 1911s. None of my other 1911s feel like the Wilson. Would I buy another or a Nighthawk or whatever - probably not. Dan Wesson would be looked at hard if I was in the market.
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In my limited experience owning 1911s, beyond a certain price point you're mostly paying for fluff, and only you can determine if it's worth the extra money. If I'm spending $2k or more, I'm custom ordering to get it exactly how I want it. I went with Wilson and Brown, and might go with Guncrafter if I order another. A Brown is about a 7 week wait, fantastic gun. Wilson is considerably longer, about a year and a half, also a fantastic gun. I wouldn'y say one is better thsn the othet. They are different. No regrets on either one.
