Interesting landing today

[olfart]

On a return trip from Greenland aboard a C-118 (rear-facing seats, Navy crew) we landed at Gander, Newfoundland. We taxied up in front of the terminal, and as the last engine was spinning down, we began standing up to grab our bags. That's when the nosewheel collapsed. The seaman who was about to open the rear door was thrown over the first row of seats into the laps of the second row. No injuries, and we all got a good laugh out of it. We got to spend the night in the Visiting Officers Quarters, which was like the Hilton compared to our barracks at Camp Tuto, Greenland, or even our barracks at Ft. Belvoir. A replacement C-118 arrived the next morning and completed our journey home.

 

[SMSgt]

That pic obviously was from the previous century. Check those gas prices!

Obviously before fuel trucks were invented.

 

[kaaskop49]

Yes, Steve. My 1st flight to LV Jan 31 0r Feb 1 of 2008. Pilot had wheels down making final approach to McCarren when he suddenly gunned the engines and pulled up violently to the left. Came on PA: apologized but another plane illegally jumped into the landing queue. Not a word about it on the ground... Our airport is smack in the middle of the city. At some point, I fear, there will be a disaster, even more so on the ground.

Kaaskop49
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[swsig]

I've only experienced one aborted landing, at Phoenix. The approach seemed normal, and the pilot said nothing, so I don't know what happened. I did experience an aborted takeoff, at Nashville. That was scary. I was on a 727, and as we were accelerating down the runway, there was a huge BOOM from the center engine's air intake directly above my head. The pilots brought the plane to a violent halt, made even scarier by the 100-foot cliff below the end of the runway. As we taxied back toward the terminal, the captain announced that the boom was probably a backfire and that all instruments were reading as normal. We then proceeded to taxi by the terminal and lined up for another takeoff. I've rarely been nervous on an aircraft, but this time, I'll admit I was . Down the runway we went again toward the 100 foot cliff, but this time there was no BOOM, and the 727 lifted off and flew perfectly thereafter. Whew!

 

[dusty3030]

You should have started chanting loudly toga! Toga! Toga! Toga!

 

[Retired W4]

If he had only set his trim properly before starting his take off roll.
Picture compliments of the NTSB for the folks that hate to fly. Luckily the pilot was the only one on board.View attachment 782834

I've only experienced one aborted landing, at Phoenix. The approach seemed normal, and the pilot said nothing, so I don't know what happened. I did experience an aborted takeoff, at Nashville. That was scary. I was on a 727, and as we were accelerating down the runway, there was a huge BOOM from the center engine's air intake directly above my head. The pilots brought the plane to a violent halt, made even scarier by the 100-foot cliff below the end of the runway. As we taxied back toward the terminal, the captain announced that the boom was probably a backfire and that all instruments were reading as normal. We then proceeded to taxi by the terminal and lined up for another takeoff. I've rarely been nervous on an aircraft, but this time, I'll admit I was . Down the runway we went again toward the 100 foot cliff, but this time there was no BOOM, and the 727 lifted off and flew perfectly thereafter. Whew!

When there is a compressor stall (back fire?) on a turbo-jet engine the engine temp goes off the chart. The pilot must not have been looking at that gauge.

Edit: Here is the NTSB photo of the guy with the trim setting problem.

 

[Astro14]

Landing in Reykjavik at night for fuel in the late 50s ,4 prop (DC 6?) all you could see was water.Didn’t bother me,I was a kid

You sure it wasn’t Keflavik? Reykjavik airport has a very short runway, in downtown Reykjavik. Most commercial traffic, even in the 1950s, lands in Keflavik, about 30 km southwest of Reykjavik, and on runway 10, it’s water under you all the way in, until the last minute.

 

[arjay]

I was sweating bullets for a while when that happpened. My Wife & Daughter were flying back to the States from Japan on a 747. I was in Korea on a det. from Japan. All we heard was that two 747's had collided and a bunch of folks were dead. It took a bit to find out where it had happened. Was very much relieved when the location came out. Felt sorry for those folks though.

My sister was a flight attendant for continental in the early 80s when a flight stalled on takeoff during a blizzard in Denver. Nerve wracking wait until we heard from her several hours later. One of my classmates from school was working that flight and died that night

 

[Bro. Dave]

...I've never really enjoyed air travel. The good Lord said, "Low, I am with thee always." Probably the truth is that, statisticallly speaking, air travel is quite a bit safer than American highways these days.

 

[Dan W. Cady]

Either way, it's an abortion.

Remember this "Takeoffs are Optional Landings are Mandatory"

 

[AJ]

Remember this "Takeoffs are Optional Landings are Mandatory"

A good day is that takeoffs equal landings!

 

[Doug M.]

When we used to do joint ops at Fairchild for their Open House, I was fascinated by the C5s and their touch and goes. Fighters showing off is one thing; we should not be surprised that they are agile. That big freighter though? Just wow.

I will never fly again; just got my kidney transplant and flying is discouraged due to exposure to random people. Our RV should be ready in a few months and that is how we will travel.

 

[AJ]

When we used to do joint ops at Fairchild for their Open House, I was fascinated by the C5s and their touch and goes. Fighters showing off is one thing; we should not be surprised that they are agile. That big freighter though? Just wow.

I will never fly again; just got my kidney transplant and flying is discouraged due to exposure to random people. Our RV should be ready in a few months and that is how we will travel.

Was on a Transac from MCAS Cherry Point, NC to MCAS Iwakuni, Japan. We were the lead Maintenance Crew with our aircraft. We were flying on a Marine Corps C-9. When we got to Wake Island, the airspace is basicily unrestricted. Our birds were doing some aerobatics. The Crew Chief on the C-9 came through putting loose gear in the overhead comparments and telling us to strap in tightly. He would not say why.......... All of a sudden the C-9 was doing some aerobatics. When we got on the ground we asked the pilot what was going on. The Col. said "I just wanted to show the little boys we could do it too, but slower". The landing was great!

 

[SMSgt]

When we used to do joint ops at Fairchild for their Open House, I was fascinated by the C5s and their touch and goes. Fighters showing off is one thing; we should not be surprised that they are agile. That big freighter though? Just wow.

I will never fly again; just got my kidney transplant and flying is discouraged due to exposure to random people. Our RV should be ready in a few months and that is how we will travel.

Back in the early '70s when the C-5 first came out, one landed at Robins AFB for testing. Being as all our Buffs were in Guam--and most of the troops--they used our empty ramp to load several large rubber fuel bladders in the C-5 and proceeded to fill them with water, increasing the load until the C-5 about dragged the trees on takeoff. Then they parked on the ramp and pulled the bladder plugs. Water ran out for hours, giving the ramp a washdown. I don't know how much all that water weighed, but from my short time as a DOT weight inspector at a Florida weigh station, water is one of the loads most likely to put trucks overweight.

 

[AJ]

Back in the early '70s when the C-5 first came out, one landed at Robins AFB for testing. Being as all our Buffs were in Guam--and most of the troops--they used our empty ramp to load several large rubber fuel bladders in the C-5 and proceeded to fill them with water, increasing the load until the C-5 about dragged the trees on takeoff. Then they parked on the ramp and pulled the bladder plugs. Water ran out for hours, giving the ramp a washdown. I don't know how much all that water weighed, but from my short time as a DOT weight inspector at a Florida weigh station, water is one of the loads most likely to put trucks overweight.

Easy to figure as water weighs 8 pounds to the gallon. https://store.interstateproducts.co...8CM-j2M2lUtXg1nXUoWdEKBOz2lgbGdQGPhSndUfCkTGi For these bladders that is 160,000 per bladder.
The max payload of the C-5 is 281,001 pounds. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay...izk3ITXxBX0n74s5NyE1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 So that would be approx. 35,125 gallons.

 

[BE Mike]

Easy to figure as water weighs 8 pounds to the gallon. https://store.interstateproducts.co...8CM-j2M2lUtXg1nXUoWdEKBOz2lgbGdQGPhSndUfCkTGi For these bladders that is 160,000 per bladder.
The max payload of the C-5 is 281,001 pounds. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay...izk3ITXxBX0n74s5NyE1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 So that would be approx. 35,125 gallons.

Actually water weighs 8.34 lbs. per gallon, unless it is heavy water. That .34 lbs. would be important for someone calculating the weight and balance for an aircraft. I just had to nitpick didn't I?

 

[CH4]

So as not to hijack the turbulence thread, I'll tell this here.

Flew back to Vegas today after a few days away. Skies around the city looked awful due to CA wildfire smoke and the pilot mentioned that it was windy. Approaching from the east it was no surprise that the ride was getting bumpy, SOP for Vegas after 1000 even on an otherwise calm day. As we went over the perimeter fence and then passed the threshold marking on the parallel runway, I noted two things. Fast and high.

Sink rate increased and we touched, but we were definitely further down the runway than normal. As this thought formed, the throttles got firewalled and back up we went. Rate of climb was impressive, but then I guess it would be on a modern jet getting light on fuel. Yep, our landing had turned into a touch and go. Pilot blamed a sudden change in the wind, but I'm not convinced. we did a long circle to get back to being lined up and we landed no problem at the second attempt.

I think this is the second or third go-around I've experienced at this airport. One the pilot got the glide angle all wrong, knew it early and was quickly on the intercom to apologize. The other time it was alleged that there was a runway incursion, or near incursion by a ground vehicle, but people were a bit more tight lipped about the whole deal.

Anyone else have any similar, "Hmm, what happened there?" type stories?

I’ve experienced TOGA a couple times coming into Vegas, once diverting clear to Reno until the winds calmed. Rarely a smooth approach coming into McCarran. Glad things worked out for you.

 

[AJ]

Actually water weighs 8.34 lbs. per gallon, unless it is heavy water. That .34 lbs. would be important for someone calculating the weight and balance for an aircraft. I just had to nitpick didn't I?

Sorry we were taught in electrician's mate school that water was heavier than fuel. We measured fuel loads in pounds. Guess it was just a rough measurment for a quick calculation. Even for a "weight & Balance" for catapult shots as far as I know the fuel was figured as 8 pounds to the gallon. They were only figuring approx. 60K pounds of weight on the cat stroke.

 

[pmanton]

A bit off topic. Some time back I made a landing where false teeth, eye glasses, and anything loose wound up in the floor boards. I apologized to my wife.
A few days later I managed to land so smoothly that it was impossible to tell when the wheels touched. I asked my wife "How did you like that landing?"
She answered "I don't know, my eyes were closed."