Had to respond to imbecile's letter to editor

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One of the local liberals, a some-times quasi-governmental official (city council, etc.), currently voted out of office but still compelled to tell others what to do, got her letter to the editor published in the Durham Herald-Sun a few days ago. Usually I can ignore people like that, but I had to respond in this case. My response is supposed to be published in the next couple of days (by the way, the opinion page editor called it "beautiful"--I think he's on our side!). I thank this forum for my knowledge of the subject, and thought you might enjoy reading the letters. Note that the paper limits letters to 250 words, so they are necessarily condensed.

Her letter:

Campers with guns

As the school year draws to a close, families look forward to summer vacations. A note of caution: think twice before visiting America's National Parks. Why? A few weeks ago Congress passed legislation to reform the credit card industry and in the rush to do good, Congress did bad. The "good" bill could not get passed without an amendment, so with 105 Democratic votes, the U.S. House overwhelmingly passed the Coburn Amendment allowing individuals to carry loaded guns in our nation's parks.

If your plans include a visit to Mount Rushmore, Yellowstone National Park, or closer to home, Pisgah National Forest, be mindful that the folks standing next to you enjoying the wonders of nature might very well be carrying loaded guns. Could even be an AK-47.
If you are camping at one of our parks be sure you know exactly where your tent is at night -- heaven forbid that you brush against the wrong tent. The occupant might mistake you for a bear, a rabid fox or a criminal and shoot you -- or your child.

When will this insanity end? What is it going to take for our elected officials to finally stand up to the National Rifle Association's incessant march to the return of vigilante justice? I do not feel safer knowing that so many people are carrying concealed weapons in so many public places. Do you? For the record, Rep. David Price (D, 4th District) voted against this legislation.

SANDY OGBURN
Durham
June 13, 2009


My response:

Sandy Ogburn has done a public disservice with her misinformed diatribe about the new national park right-to-carry rules (Campers with guns, June 13). It is remarkable how many facts she got wrong in such a limited space.

First, the bill takes effect in 2010, so her effort to provoke hysteria over this summer’s vacation plans is pointless.

Second, the new law pertains only to national parks and wildlife refuges. Since firearms are already permitted in national forests, her dire predictions for Pisgah National Forest are ridiculous.

Third, far from “the return of vigilante justice”, the new rules simply replace Federal restrictions with the firearm laws of the states in which the parks are located.

Fourth, while concealed carry will be allowed for permit holders, an AK-47 is a military rifle highly unlikely to be concealed by “the folks standing next to you.” Was the AK-47 reference included solely to incite panic?

Fifth, while Ms. Ogburn “does not feel safer” with lawful concealed carry, many others do. There are 1,661 CCW permit holders in Durham County, 127,748 state-wide, and reciprocity with 30 other states. Each of these citizens has been thoroughly investigated, fingerprinted, and approved by the sheriff. If Ms. Ogburn is truly concerned about public safety, I suggest that she flip to the Crime Log section and redirect her crusade to that portion of the population.

Lastly, regarding the gratuitous slap at the NRA, I suspect that Ms. Ogburn’s understanding of that organization equals her negligible grasp of the national park right-to-carry law.

RICHARD GLISSON
Bahama
 
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Had to do the same thing a time or two, but it's like trying to empty a lake with a thimble. The supply of imbeciles and morons with diarrhea of the mouth on gun issues is apparently unlimited. Some people just need to be slapped upside the head. :p
 
wow, that was pure pwnage. i applaude the fact that you stuck simply to the facts and didn't take the her bait and turn it into an emotional battle.
 
Glitch.............your response doesn't get any better. very well written.
 
Elegant.
Which hers was not.
And, yet another example of the caliber of people oft getting elected.
Well Done!
 
Had to respond to imbecille's letter to editor

Congratulations sir, and thank you for your service against such diatribes. Your response was, to me, well thought out and very adequate. You afforded the imbecille no route of "come back", yet did not bring emotion into the matter, effectively shutting her down. Many responders could take your example as a good lesson in dealing with the anti-gunners.
 
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Thanks for the kind remarks. I loved how she made sure to mention that your CHILD could be shot. That is pure classic. It is for the children!

If she had spent 10 minutes Googling the topic so she actually had a clue what she was talking about, I would probably have let it slide.

I wished I could have included a few more words about how many people she encounters every day who are legally carrying concealed but to whom she is utterly oblivious. The CCW stats had to suffice.

In the event that she does respond, I think I will just thank her and tell her I have made a sizable donation to the NRA in her name.
 
Very nice reply.

I'm sure she only knows AK-47s by name.. and thinks they sound scary. People like this truly bother me. Crimes committed by people legally carrying are so low. She probably didn't realize how many people in her area carry.
 
Excellent rebuttal.

She obviously learned all she knows about firearms from the Brady Bunch and probably believes that a barrel shroud is "that thingy that goes up on your shoulder."

Keep up the good work.
 
Very, very well written! I sincerely hope that the newspaper publishes it verbatim. I swore off writing letters to editors years ago, after having a letter I wrote edited such that what appeared in the paper bore no resemblance to my original. Sounds like you have friendly folks at your paper, though, so maybe they will. Imbecile? Naaaah. She's not nearly bright enough to qualify for that category.
 
I swore off writing letters to editors years ago, after having a letter I wrote edited such that what appeared in the paper bore no resemblance to my original.

Wait... you mean the newspaper essentially changed the facts!?! I never heard of that! :eek:

I would be mighty upset if that happened to me.
 
Wait... you mean the newspaper essentially changed the facts!?! I never heard of that! :eek:

I would be mighty upset if that happened to me.
It was more a sin of omission. The "editor" left out enough text that what remained of my letter did not even make sense, and utterly failed to address the one point I'd made, I thought, rather succinctly. Yes, I was very unhappy about it, but I was not foolish enough to give them another shot at me. I'd already had a similar experience some years before with a letter to Guns and Ammo magazine that should have been sufficient to teach me. Fool me once, etc...
 
Glitch;
Great letter, I hope I can do as well when the time comes.
Evidently the lady does not understand that the typical National Park or Wildlife Refuge is large and not well served with law enforcement.
I hope she will be good enough to wear some sort of identification so that those of us who carry do not mistakenly come to her aid and cause her great distress.
Roger.
 
Glitch, you might forward this to the editor, a timely news item

from CBCnews.ca (Canada)

Mother fought off cougar to save toddler from attack
2nd cougar shot by officials in Squamish B.C. this week

Last Updated: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 | 1:43 PM PT Comments214Recommend120CBC News

Conservation officers in Squamish, B.C., continue to hunt for two more cougars after a rash of attacks, including one in which a mother fought off an attack on her daughter, 3, who couldn't understand why the big kitty didn't want to "play nice."

Conservation officers used dogs to track a cougar through several yards before finally shooting it around 10 p.m. PT Tuesday night. (CBC)

Five conservation officers aided by two dogs and their handlers eventually tracked the cat through several yards and eventually shot it just off Depot Road in the Brackendale neighbourhood, about 60 kilometres north of Vancouver, four hours after the attack Tuesday evening.

DNA samples taken from the cougar will be used to determine whether it was the one that attacked the child, they said.

The cougar is the second killed by conservation officers since Saturday. The other was shot after two dogs were attacked on a popular hiking trail on Friday and Saturday.

Mother fought off big cat

In the attack on Tuesday, the cougar pounced on Maya Espinosa from behind as she and her mother were walking their dog and picking berries in Fisherman's Park near the Squamish River.

'I just knew I had to react quick, so I just jumped in there.'

— Maureen LeeMaureen Lee told CBC News she was turning away to pick a berry when she thought she saw another dog approaching out of the corner of her eye, but it was the cougar coming to attack her daughter, Maya.

"All of a sudden it just flew on her, rolled her a couple of times and grabbed her under its belly on the ground like in the fetal position," Lee recalled.

"She [Maya] was on her back and he had his paws in her head, and I just knew I had to react quick, so I just jumped in there and wedged myself between the cougar and her on the ground, and I just got up and threw it off my back and grabbed her and booked it," she said.

Three-year-old Maya Espinosa was resting at home with her mother Maureen Lee and father Pablo Espinosa Wednesday morning following the cougar attack. (CBC)
The toddler suffered puncture wounds to her left arm and head, but was recovering well, her mother said.

Neighbour Wade Rowland said it appeared the young girl didn't entirely understand what had happened.

"Everyone's taking it well, they're in good spirits," he said. "The little girl, her big comment was, I guess, 'Why didn't the kitty play nice?' "

Pablo Espinosa, Maya's father, told CBC News his daughter thought the cat was playing. She was eager to return to kindergarten to tell her classmate what happened, Lee said.

Rash of cougar encounters reported
Following the second shooting, eight conservation officers were using dogs to track down at least two other cougars suspected to be in the area, on Wednesday morning. A total of 30 encounters with cougars were reported in the past 10 day, including six on Friday alone, they said.

A hiker posted this video on YouTube of a cougar that attacked a dog on a the Stawamus Chief trail near Squamish on the weekend. (YouTube)
The unusually aggressive behaviour could have been caused by at least two factors, conservation officers suspected. The first cougar shot on Saturday was likely hungry, they concluded, because of its emaciated condition. The second cougar shot on Tuesday, however, was healthy and young, and may have just been learning to hunt, they said.

Squamish RCMP Cpl. Dave Ritchie said Maya was fortunate to escape the attack without serious injuries, adding people need to watch out for cougars right now.

"She's very lucky. Hopefully she'll be surviving and not be too traumatized by it, but it would be a traumatic event for parents and a young child."
 
Great letter Glitch!!!

Permission to repost it on other shooter forums solicited.
 
If Ms. Ogburn is truly concerned about public safety, I suggest that she flip to the Crime Log section and redirect her crusade to that portion of the population.

I love that part. :D
 
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