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Criminal minds (Reids gun and holster)
This is one of my favorite shows but I have been wondering what kind of holster does Reid carry his revolver in? it looks like a Bianchi holster
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I don't know but I wish someone would take it off of him and slap him with it. Never could stand the 12 o-clock crotch carry he uses. One of those irritating Hollywood gunnisms.
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One episode where they were having dealings with a quasi-militia group, one of the people told Reid the way he was wearing his gun, he was just inviting someone to take it away from him.
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I was wondering the exact question. I did some googling and this is what I came up with...
Smith & Wesson Model 65
Special Agent Spencer Reid (Matthew Gray Gubler) switches to a 3" barrel Smith & Wesson Model 65 with wood-colored grips in Season 4. He still carries his sidearm in a manner where a militia leader once said "The way you wear that gun - you're just asking someone to take it off of you boy." In addition, he carries the double action revolver in a holster that does not cover the trigger guard, something that is not generally advisable. Reid notably uses it in Season 5 opening episode "Nameless, Faceless" to shoot Patrick Meyers (Michael Adler) when he raises his gun back up (after having previously lowered it).
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I didn't think the Bureau currently approved any revolver for duty carry. How does Reid get around that? Did they say?
I enjoy the show, although I think it's a little too dramatic in some respects, and I'd drop one or two of the characters and replace them with someone more plausible.
Also, I think the writers are anti-gun and anti-hunting. But that's true of most TV shows.
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Not certain what the holster he has. Looks like a typical duty holster, break away snap. I'm not sure if they are following the departmental guidlines for firearms Tex, like you said it's more Hollywood. Model 65 seems to be a easy piece to carry. Not sure of the shows writer, most likely is a uber liberal. I see Joe Mantegna on some of the gun shows every week, he supposedly has a strong support of the NRA. Joe Montegnia I think is on Criminal minds also. not sure...
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Not certain what the holster he has. Looks like a typical duty holster, break away snap. I'm not sure if they are following the departmental guidlines for firearms Tex, like you said it's more Hollywood. Model 65 seems to be a easy piece to carry. Not sure of the shows writer, most likely is a uber liberal. I see Joe Mantegna on some of the gun shows every week, he supposedly has a strong support of the NRA. Joe Montegnia I think is on Criminal minds also. not sure...
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Mantegna (sp?) plays Agent Rossi.
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Yep, that be him. Thought so, wasn't certain...
David Rossi is a fictional character from the CBS crime drama Criminal Minds, portrayed by Joe Mantegna.
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Yes Joe M. Plays Rossi He is one of my Favorite charters. a lot of people bad mouth Reid's gun and how he carries it I think it adds to his quirkiness. He does carry a 65 3" one of the guns I am looking for and no the FBI does not issue revolvers anymore. Strange they never do explain why he carries a revolver
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I didn't think the Bureau currently approved any revolver for duty carry. How does Reid get around that? Did they say?
I enjoy the show, although I think it's a little too dramatic in some respects, and I'd drop one or two of the characters and replace them with someone more plausible.
Also, I think the writers are anti-gun and anti-hunting. But that's true of most TV shows.
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What makes you think this?
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I always figured Reeds gun and holster position just came from the fact that he's an egghead, and doesn't pay much attention to things like guns. The revolver is simple, and the position is just where it happens to end up when he puts it on.
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I remember something along the lines of guns make him kinda nervous. He doesn't have the range time. He failed some of the qualification.If I remember correctly
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an egghead ... lol I agree it's probebly a matter of simplicity of the revolver vs an automatic not being his cup of tea.
What I am curiouse about is what type holster Commisioner Frank Reagon in Blue Bloods (Tom Selleck) is using with his revolver. I'm always backing up and freezing scenes to determine exactly what firearms actors are using.
I see mostly Sigs, but also Glocks and 1911's but not as much as I do Sigs these days. Revolvers I see S&W's.
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an egghead ... lol I agree it's probebly a matter of simplicity of the revolver vs an automatic not being his cup of tea.
What I am curiouse about is what type holster Commisioner Frank Reagon in Blue Bloods (Tom Selleck) is using with his revolver. I'm always backing up and freezing scenes to determine exactly what firearms actors are using.
I see mostly Sigs, but also Glocks and 1911's but not as much as I do Sigs these days. Revolvers I see S&W's.
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Reagan's BUG is his father's Fitz Special. In an episode, Reagan's father notes that it was passed down to him from his father.
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Decades ago when I was a youngster growing up, my daddy always enjoyed watching television shows. Something would come on about guns and if he did not like it, he had a saying.
"Son, them things are in the picture shows. Trying that in real life and it wouldn't work."
Carrying a gun like that in the movies might be ok but I would not try it on the streets.
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Are you being sarcastic about Hollywood, or is there some part of the three items in my post about which you are really curious?
If you make a post like that and don't amplify your meaning by using the right Smilies, I can't tell how to respond.
If you mean, does the FBI still authorize revolvers, my source was a post on this board by an actual Special Agent.
If you mean why do I think the show is anti-gun and anti-hunting, that refers to the content and slant of certain episodes. In particular, the bowhunters stalking humans and the comments of the cast, and the surprise and horror that they felt on learning that a stalking victim in Texas had bought a shotgun without a lengthy approval process.
If you mean why do I think that three cast members should be replaced, it's because I've occasionally worked with FBI agents and read books by John Douglas and others about the Behavorial Science Unit. Those cast members are just not realistic and were placed there to appeal to certain segments of the viewing audience, I guess, or to provide mild comic relief.
I hope that somewhere in there I answered your question.
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Are you being sarcastic about Hollywood, or is there some part of the three items in my post about which you are really curious?
If you make a post like that and don't amplify your meaning by using the right Smilies, I can't tell how to respond.
If you mean, does the FBI still authorize revolvers, my source was a post on this board by an actual Special Agent.
If you mean why do I think the show is anti-gun and anti-hunting, that refers to the content and slant of certain episodes. In particular, the bowhunters stalking humans and the comments of the cast, and the surprise and horror that they felt on learning that a stalking victim in Texas had bought a shotgun without a lengthy approval process.
If you mean why do I think that three cast members should be replaced, it's because I've occasionally worked with FBI agents and read books by John Douglas and others about the Behavorial Science Unit. Those cast members are just not realistic and were placed there to appeal to certain segments of the viewing audience, I guess, or to provide mild comic relief.
I hope that somewhere in there I answered your question.
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I am truly sorry I did mean to ask about the anti hunting and gun but I guess all my thoughts didn't get out. And me wanting to become a police officer or a US Marshal after college I know the difference between entertainment and the real world. I don't think that they are taking the position that they are anti-gun or anti hunting but they are just exploring what could actually happen, who knows there might be some crazy person out there. I think that is what makes the show appealing the parameters that they go to I think it is better than CSI or without a trace or any other Crime Show
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Yep, that be him. Thought so, wasn't certain...
David Rossi is a fictional character from the CBS crime drama Criminal Minds, portrayed by Joe Mantegna.
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IMO, Joe Mantegna is sooo much better than Mandy Patinkin who I could not stand.
Joe Mantegna is very Pro gun and a avid shooter. On the show he carries a SA 1911. Although there have been many guns used on the show over the years.
A great show that I though was going to be canceled but survived. It gets a bit brutal at times and really shows the absolute worst of what people can become and do.
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IMO, Joe Mantegna is sooo much better than Mandy Patinkin who I could not stand.
Joe Mantegna is very Pro gun and a avid shooter. On the show he carries a SA 1911. Although there have been many guns used on the show over the years.
A great show that I though was going to be canceled but survived. It gets a bit brutal at times and really shows the absolute worst of what people can become and do.
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I didn't like him, either. Mantegna is much better. The Colt .45 auto is a plausible FBI gun, issued to their SWAT units. I think theirs are actually Springfield-made, worked over by the gunsmiths. Don't know if it's authorized for other units. Most agents today have .40 Glocks. One on this board got his SIG P-220 .45 grandfathered in, but new agents can't carry one, it seems. I believe that's what he posted. The real life John Douglas had a 10mm S&W when those were the issue item.
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One thing that's interesting is that both, in real life are excellent singers.
Back to Reid. He is a genius and a walking computer, he can carry anything, anywhere he wants.
Without him and Penelope, the "team" would be lost.
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I've never seen the show, but Texas Star has it right as far as current Bureau guns go. No one is authorized any kind of revolver. This caused great consternation when it came out, since a lot of guys still had J frames as backups and off-duty guns.
Anything other than a Glock is a rarity these days. My Sig is personally owned and grandfathered in. All Bureau issued Sigs have been recalled and replaced with Glocks. All Smiths are verboten now, even personally owned ones. I was qualifying a guy with a 1076 until around 2005 when the gun vault demanded he return it or face disciplinary action.
The vast majority of FBI Glocks are 22s, with a bunch of 23s coming out with newer classes.
Lots of guys also have 27s, which are all personally-owned, Bureau-approved guns.
A few guys carry personally owned 21s.
The 1911 is authorized for current and former SWAT members who have been through the transition course for it. Its the Springfield single stack, and guys that are authorized it can buy the same model from Springfield and carry that as a personally owned gun.
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I think when the show first started he was carrying a Glock. He took out a bad guy with it in one head shot. After being praised for his good shooting he stated he was shooting at the guy's leg. Reason for the switch?
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I think when the show first started he was carrying a Glock. He took out a bad guy with it in one head shot. After being praised for his good shooting he stated he was shooting at the guy's leg. Reason for the switch?
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Probably not, just that he is not a gun guy and got lucky.
The show has been on for so long there is bound to be changes, perhaps not factually correct.
Here is the whole list of firearms. Click on discussion in the upper left by the crossed rifles.
Criminal Minds - imfdb :. guns in movies :. movie guns :. the internet movie firearms database
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I think when the show first started he was carrying a Glock. He took out a bad guy with it in one head shot. After being praised for his good shooting he stated he was shooting at the guy's leg. Reason for the switch?
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Unless the leg was the only target available (obviously not, in this case) he should be reminded to shoot for center mass. Shooting people in the leg/arm/shooting the gun out of his hand mostly happens in movies and on TV. Even Modesty Blaise in those terrific thrillers written by Peter O'Donnell usually shot to kill, and she was a fantastic shot.
I know only one man who deliberately shot a foe in the leg, and he did that to get him to drop beneath a big truck trailer, where he'd have a better shot at his torso. Thankfully, that worked, and the good guy is still with us. Has a Purple Heart and two Oak Leaves, but basically intact. He used a 9mm. The insurgent evidently hadn't read that 9mm ball was ineffective, and died promptly, having sustained a couple of hits in the chest.
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My understanding is the Ried carries that revolver because he is miserable shooting a Glock. While it's definately not an approved firearm in todays FBI the show is after all fiction.
Personally I find many of the story lines a bit too creepy so I don't follow the show closely. However I will tune in occasionally when the story line is somewhat reasonable.
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I think that that was a joke more or less. I think that the reason for the switch was that in several other episodes Reid has had to shoot somebody (with a revolver mid you) also the revolver symbolizes a kind of chance. Reid has almost been kind by a revolver as well in a Game of Russian Ru-let. Or he could have just Figured out revolvers are superior to Semi Autos (to each man his own right)
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The picture of this TV character that was posted looks different than the last time I watched this show, which was several years ago. At that time I seem to remember a longer barreld piece in a non-discript holster that hung almost at 1 o'clock-right out front. If the picture is an accurate depiction of his new setup, I would have to say that I favor it, especially if I were mounted-or sitting down. The nice thing about a slight rearward cant is that it is easily moved to the weak side for cross draw. I use the IWB appendix carry, which is what I seem to see inthe picture, except it is being worn on the outside. An exposed trigger guard means a Tom Threepersons holster or equivalent, which I also favor. Everyone should, in my view, use what he can access with confidence. I seem to remember some of those old photos of Bill The Kid. His revolver position looked kind of funky to me, but, given the oportunity, I'd have passed on trying to reach over to take it away from him. Flapjack.
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The picture of this TV character that was posted looks different than the last time I watched this show, which was several years ago. At that time I seem to remember a longer barreld piece in a non-discript holster that hung almost at 1 o'clock-right out front. If the picture is an accurate depiction of his new setup, I would have to say that I favor it, especially if I were mounted-or sitting down. The nice thing about a slight rearward cant is that it is easily moved to the weak side for cross draw. I use the IWB appendix carry, which is what I seem to see inthe picture, except it is being worn on the outside. An exposed trigger guard means a Tom Threepersons holster or equivalent, which I also favor. Everyone should, in my view, use what he can access with confidence. I seem to remember some of those old photos of Bill The Kid. His revolver position looked kind of funky to me, but, given the oportunity, I'd have passed on trying to reach over to take it away from him. Flapjack.
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Throughout the progression of the seasons Reid has changed his look in the most recent season he has shorter hair and wears more stylish clothing. Last time he shot anything other than his Model 65 was season 4 and it was a stander Glock 17 but he still wore it in the same place. I think it would be uncomfortable in when sitting, I think I would also attribute the position of the holster to him not being the most "forceful" person and he wears it that way to show power.
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Some more pictures
Found some more pictures some a really good pics of the holster hope there is a answerer about what kind it is.
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I think that that was a joke more or less. I think that the reason for the switch was that in several other episodes Reid has had to shoot somebody (with a revolver mid you) also the revolver symbolizes a kind of chance. Reid has almost been kind by a revolver as well in a Game of Russian Ru-let. Or he could have just Figured out revolvers are superior to Semi Autos (to each man his own right)
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Reid was a hostage on the floor when he made that head shot.
Hotch kicked Reid so Reid could take Hotch's ankle gun to
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Reid was a hostage on the floor when he made that head shot.
Hotch kicked Reid so Reid could take Hotch's ankle gun to
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That was actual in an earlier season in 2x15 (Revelations) Reid is kidnapped and shoots an unsub with only one bullet in the gun That is were the chance cones in
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The actors mom owns a ranch he stated in a interview. She raised him on revolvers. He expresed the deside to producers that he toate a wheel gun in her honor.
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I vote for dropping the chatter about Reid and get some pictures and chat going on JJ. ----The only real reason some of us watch the show.
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In four years, no one completely worked it out? Indeed as one forum member stated, it's a Bianchi and in the 5BH mould -- but likely it's a 56L, which is the paddle version of the 5BH and would have been chosen for the quick on / quick off benefit; and is a holster model that I created for Bianchi in the 70s.
Many cop shows today -- CSI Cyber and The Mysteries of Laura and State of Affairs that I know of -- use paddle holsters and in this location; my belief is that the style is chosen as being easiest on the wardrobe person, and the location is chosen to showcase the pistol in every view. I suspect different actors in the same show are using the very same holstered pistol, too.
Perhaps not a coincidence -- the latter three shows all use a black paddle holster for Glocks that I created for Aker in the 90s.
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I recall the episode that explains it. Reid got permission to use he revolver because he couldn't hit the side of a barn while standing inside it with the Glock. Don't know why they even made a story of it since he so rarely even takes the gun out. Probably to emphasize how he is the brains of the group, and not so good at the physical side of police work.
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Haven't watched the show in a few years..... wife finds the plots too creepy.
I have to agree with Muliegirl............Bianchi 5BHL.......the "L" is lined. It was pretty much the gold standard for revolvers w/ retention in the 70s and 80s.
The gun is a 3" 65 the stainless version of the 13 which was the FBI issue gun in the 70 and 80s IIRC.
How he got "grandfathered"...... hey it's TV....paperwork doesn't matter...... but I remember he couldn't qualify or shoot worth _______!
As a rant: I wish TV would do away with Glocks..... lets see some style and personality in characters carry guns......
Spencer's Beretta
Hawks Model 29
Miami Vice....... need I say more
Magnums... .45
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Lets have a chat about this holster and how she wears it.
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With a figure like that, she can wear it anywhere she likes as far as I'm concerned. Takes me back to the time I personally fitted a stunning FBI agent for the new female paddle I was creating for the agency. I had a lot of trouble concentrating, and her perfume wasn't helping any :-)
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uploadfromtaptalk1442239567565.jpgthe weapons used primarily in the series.
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I personally hate that show, unsub this, unsub that, and that weird computer girl that can find any information in the world in 5 seconds flat, pleez!
The few times I've seen parts of that show, any decent criminal would have disarmed him and killed him with his own gun in any kind of scuffle and I doubt any agency today would let him carry his weapon like that.
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I agree with Red about the paddle being useful for prop and wardrobe. In between takes the armorer/prop guy will come around and gather up the guns from the actors. Decades ago I was watching a WW2 TV being filmed and when the scene was finished the armorer came around and took all of the 1911s out of the actor's holsters; the "1911s" were old Lytle aluminum castings . Paddles make things a lot easier on the set.
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