2ndAmendmentNut
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Back in the days of cops carrying revolvers what would a S&W model 28 have been carried in? I have a nice 4" 28-2 with an "S" serial number on the way to my local FFL and I would like to order some leather to go with it.
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Highway patrol holster?
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My mother was a sheriff's deputy and carried a 28-2 in a bianchi smooth black "gun belt". The department reissued model 19's and changed rigs to basket weave style. Not sure if this is what you are looking for. I'm sure many departments had different rigs. Would love to see some pic's when you get it!
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I would have answered this by saying in a swivel holster of some make, Safety Speed, Don Hume, Bucheimer, Safariland, Bianchi, etc. Most officers just did not have enough "rise" to allow the Jordan holster to comfortably clear the seat in the car. Of course, that was not a problem for Bill as he easily stood 6'6" tall, even into his 70s and beyond when most men "shrink" in height a little due to the compression of the space between the vertebrae.
The picture in Iggy's post actually shows the Askins Border patrol holster, similar to the Patton design, not the Jordan holster; the difference between it and the Jordan being the leather that goes around, but does not cover the trigger guard. Bill Jordan describes, in his book No Second Place Winner, I believe, the modifications he made to the Askins that resulted in the Jordan.
The picture in Iggy's post actually shows the Askins Border patrol holster, similar to the Patton design, not the Jordan holster; the difference between it and the Jordan being the leather that goes around, but does not cover the trigger guard. Bill Jordan describes, in his book No Second Place Winner, I believe, the modifications he made to the Askins that resulted in the Jordan.
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I would have posted this one but it had a Colt in it.
I carried a Model 58 a mighty lot of miles in an old Border Patrol holster.
Still carry an N frame S&W in one similar to the Keith holster pictured in the previous post.
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Thank you gentlemen! I'll definitely post pictures when I get my HP in.
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Hey Iggy,
Those are some NICE GRIPS TOO!
Those are some NICE GRIPS TOO!
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Texas DPS used the Askins style Border Patrol one in the first pic. The Jordan may have been allowed. Don't recall. Gun was indeed the M28. Texas Rangers were issued M-19's. Don't know about issued Ranger leather, but most bought their own leather and usually, the guns, mainly .357's and Colt Govt. Model .45's.
Some forces, like in Washington, had six-inch barrels and often wore crossdraw rigs, some open-fronted and spring loaded. I saw some in Denver in the 1960's, too.
Dallas PD used the first sort, but most of the gun-savvy cops bought the Jordan or high riding items like Safariland's old Model 29. El Paso still makes one like it. Six and 6.5 inch barrels were fairly common among these guys.
Some forces, like in Washington, had six-inch barrels and often wore crossdraw rigs, some open-fronted and spring loaded. I saw some in Denver in the 1960's, too.
Dallas PD used the first sort, but most of the gun-savvy cops bought the Jordan or high riding items like Safariland's old Model 29. El Paso still makes one like it. Six and 6.5 inch barrels were fairly common among these guys.
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2ndAmendmentNut
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Does anyone know of a modern source for a border patrol or Jordan rig? I have been doing google searches and the closest thing I have found so far is El Paso Saddlery's Patton holster.
keith44spl
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I don't know who makes a 'Border Patrol' style now 'n days.....
I've worn this'n for a spell back in the old days.
For style and comfort, I wear something like this now'n days..........
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I've worn this'n for a spell back in the old days.
For style and comfort, I wear something like this now'n days..........
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The rig and gun in that picture belong to Dave (keith44spl) Keith. If I recomember right, the grips are some made by Keith Brown.
The previous post by Dave gives you another sample of his wares.
Now me, I carry this one.
Do we see a pattern developing here?
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robbt
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hi guys just curious on what the duty rigs would been issued circa 1942 , I just recently bought a Colt New Service in the serial number range issued to the Texas Highway patrol. please post, robbt
rednichols
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Without knowing what the THP would have used, popular in the West for coppers in the 1940s would have been the Jewett clamshell (swivel), the Hoyt forward draw, the Myres Askins (the Jordan is 1950s), the Safety Speed swivels. Companies that existed then also included Heiser, Bucheimer and Lawrence, but none were known for police holsters in the West in that era. Companies like Bianchi et al. are 1960s. It's always possible that the THP were influenced by other agencies like the Texas Rangers, who used their own style that is variously called the Austin or Brill holster (always a high ride).
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I'm not sure if this S&W holster would have been used?worn by Law Enforcement folks or not.
It's certainly sturdy enough to stand up to every day use, but it's large, thick (from the belt outward) and being a double retention style it probably didn't stay in use for long.
The mdl # is: B501 24W
Black basket weave.
I'd offered this for sale before on this forum.
I'm not sure if this S&W holster would have been used?worn by Law Enforcement folks or not.
It's certainly sturdy enough to stand up to every day use, but it's large, thick (from the belt outward) and being a double retention style it probably didn't stay in use for long.
The mdl # is: B501 24W
Black basket weave.
I'd offered this for sale before on this forum.
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Dunno of any current makers, but an eBay search under " vintage leather holster" might turn up a NOS or like-new one.
rednichols
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Patented around 1980, it is indeed a uniform holster. The Bianchi 350 Hurricane was developed to compete with it and had its own patent.
2ndAmendmentNut I have recently looked at both Askins and Jordan
Border Patrol holsters on ebay. The difference is quite subtle. Iggy's
#2 above is Askins. #5 is Jordan.
Just go to ebay and enter Myres
holster. The Askins model looks to be in fairly good condition, if it
will fit your gun.
Border Patrol holsters on ebay. The difference is quite subtle. Iggy's
#2 above is Askins. #5 is Jordan.
Just go to ebay and enter Myres
holster. The Askins model looks to be in fairly good condition, if it
will fit your gun.
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Here a basketweave Myres holster with a model 28 in it.
G.F. Cake was a police supply house that retailed different makers' holsters. This one is stamped M 4 for Magnum 4"; it has a sewn in target sight protector.
This lined Audley holster fits a 4" N frame.
Heiser called this their State Patrol model. Advertised as a cross-draw holster to be worn on a Sam Browne belt. It was first listed in catalog # 50 after WW II.
And this Brill would probably fit that New Service.
Regards,
turnerriver
G.F. Cake was a police supply house that retailed different makers' holsters. This one is stamped M 4 for Magnum 4"; it has a sewn in target sight protector.
This lined Audley holster fits a 4" N frame.
Heiser called this their State Patrol model. Advertised as a cross-draw holster to be worn on a Sam Browne belt. It was first listed in catalog # 50 after WW II.
And this Brill would probably fit that New Service.
Regards,
turnerriver
If you use a Bill Jordan holster watch where you walk. I laughed at another Sgt. when he stepped in an old well, holster caught on the edge rode up and the M-10 was jammed up and broke two ribs. A few years later I stepped in a hole at an accident scene same thing but I only broke 1. His turn to laugh.
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I always wore Safariland Model 29 or Bianchi 5BHL lined with K, L and N framed revolvers. The high ride made it easier to wear in a car and you could cover the grip with your elbow to keep idle hands away from it and make sure the gun was still there. Black, basketweave.
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