El Paso Saddlery- Gone Down the Tubes?

Hey, Jay... I only have a couple of EPS holsters, but I really like this one. A "Threepersons" for a 3" J frame, shown here with my 3" .32 Regulation Police. But I didn't get it from EPS, bought it from a fellow forum member.

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Best Regards, Les
 
Well heck... I did it.

Against my better judgement, I just couldn't resist. Ordered a Tom Threepersons strong side for my 5 1/2" Blackhawk along with a Texas gunfighter belt with 24 cartridge loops from EPS today. Went with a border stamped holster and plain belt, hoping it doesn't look stupid with an unstamped belt.

Dumb idea? Maybe so. But if time's the main problems that's okay. I'm out of country right now for some time anyway so I can wait. Just have been wanting some of their leather for so long... hope it doesn't come back to bit me in the nads. If so, you guys'll hear about it, though. I'm all for giving credit where credit is due, as well as criticism. Time will tell and we shall see.

Now for the wait...!
 
REALLY nice, Les. All the way around! I have a plain EPS Threepersons for my 3" M-36. It's the second one I've owned just like this. Let a good friend talk me out of my first 3" 36 AND the EPS holster it was in as a gift to his wife. Regretted the sale of both but boy, was that gurl thrilled to death! Bought both of my holsters directly from EPS and was very pleased with them. That carving on yours is bonus! And BTW, I've got an NIB Shrade Walden stockman just like the one pictured in your photo. I've also got a second one that has about 250,000 miles on it! I found the new one in the box for sale just after I learned that Shrade-Walden would be no more after it became just Shrade. Came to be fond of the Shrade Walden brand because that was the only brand my dad would carry and use, and he used them every single day of his life. My first pocket knife was a bone handled one of his well used ones in this same pattern. NICE!
But dad was never really fond of the "new" stainless steel blades. He liked his old carbon steel models much better.

An update on my order discussed above in post #11. Ordered the mag carriers on the 16th about 1700 hours and received an order confirmation shortly there after. Next day, received a receipt and "thank you" via email. Today, I received notice of shipment of my order via FedEx Express
Saver shipping. Expected delivery date is May 23! Not a problem for me at all and I'm sure this is the cheapest way they can ship. But that package is going to have to layover somewhere for a while even if it's coming by slow boat from El Paso to me. Shoot, it's only 347 miles from there to here. Of course you gotta cross the SE corner of NM along that route. But last time I made that route, there were no border crossings or customs stops at the border between Texas and NM on either side! Maybe the cost is less if they route it somewhere along a route that never leaves the State of Texas? But it could go from EP clean to Brownsville and back to here in much less time than 5 days!

I ain't fussin' mind you. Really I ain't! I just can't figure out how the trip can take that long unless the delivery guy is riding a Vespa motorscooter. Maybe the package will surprise me and be here earlier than promised! Betcha it is, even if the USPS makes the final delivery. Ya'll stand by and I'll provide an update when the package arrives.

And I'll say this again, EPS products have always been worth the wait for me!
 
I have been getting holsters from them for a long time.

I must have at least a dozen or so from them. I have always been satisfied. But I will say that the most recent purchase from them. A Tanker rig for my 4506. The retaining strap is a little too long. Not enough for me to send it back or complain. It will still keep the gun from falling out of the holster. But there is about a half inch of daylight between the backstrap of the gun and the retaining strap when the strap is snapped in place.
 
Well heck... I did it.

Against my better judgement, I just couldn't resist. Ordered a Tom Threepersons strong side for my 5 1/2" Blackhawk along with a Texas gunfighter belt with 24 cartridge loops from EPS today. Went with a border stamped holster and plain belt, hoping it doesn't look stupid with an unstamped belt.

Dumb idea? Maybe so. But if time's the main problems that's okay. I'm out of country right now for some time anyway so I can wait. Just have been wanting some of their leather for so long... hope it doesn't come back to bit me in the nads. If so, you guys'll hear about it, though. I'm all for giving credit where credit is due, as well as criticism. Time will tell and we shall see.

Now for the wait...!

You will be very pleased with your purchase. I do not know for sure, but you may also get it sooner since you did not get the floral carved option. I think getting that option adds a lot of time to it's delivery. I look forward to seeing your pictures and review!
Larry
 
I bought my first belt and holster from EPS nearly 40 years ago and my most recent belt from them about 6 months ago, if that tells you anything. If you're in a big hurry, look elsewhere. If you don't mind waiting a bit for quality in time-proven classic designs, they're your folks.

My dream rig is a fully carved and background dyed belt, holster, and knife sheath for a favorite sixgun. Haven't had the funds to commit to that and have a hard time deciding which sixgun I would get it for...
 
I and a lot of others ordered a holster from El Paso during the 2015 NRA convention and I got a beautifully carved Tom Threepersons holster in a couple of months for my 4" N frames. My poor picture does not show this as beautiful as it is in person.

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I bought my first belt and holster from EPS nearly 40 years ago and my most recent belt from them about 6 months ago, if that tells you anything. If you're in a big hurry, look elsewhere. If you don't mind waiting a bit for quality in time-proven classic designs, they're your folks.

My dream rig is a fully carved and background dyed belt, holster, and knife sheath for a favorite sixgun. Haven't had the funds to commit to that and have a hard time deciding which sixgun I would get it for...

Do you remember how long it took to to get your most recent order?

Here's to hoping the plain belt looks okay with the border stamped holster...
 
Followup delivery report for my recent EPS order.

As promised! I placed an online order for two plain black leather slip fit magazine holsters for my Shield45. Confirmation was very prompt, same day, with a "thank you" and order receipt was close on the heels of the confirmation, again same day. On May 18, I received notice that the package was tendered to FedEx Express Saver with promised delivery on May 23.

The package was delivered today as promised. I made previous comment that this seemed a long time for a delivery from El Paso to Lubbock. Not a fuss, mind you, just a curiosity. Following the delivery of the package with the tracking number indicated that it first went almost clean across the country to Memphis, TN and turned around and came back here on the exact day promised up front. Not a problem, just a curiosity for me.

I can also report that the products are both of excellent construction, just what I wanted, and I am very pleased with them. These mag carriers were stated to be slip fit. I will say that it's gonna take a few days of stretching the leather a bit by the means of wrapping a few layers of kitchen waxed paper around them and placing the mags inside the carriers, which took considerable effort. Not to worry, (unless some of you report me filching some of my wife's waxed paper from the kitchen for this purpose!) :D

The slip fit is very snug, which bodes well for mag retention after I get them relaxed just a bit. These carriers should retain their shape very well, and they fit tight on my belt against the waist band of my britches, meaning that they should not move around much out of position on my belt. They also are constructed with a pull the dot snap that holds the leather that makes the belt loop to the rear body of the carrier which should allow the carrier to be removed from the belt if necessary without removing your belt and sliding it through a solid loop. I've had good luck with pull the dot snaps, and even if one should eventually relax it's grip, they are easily replaced. I don't expect to be unsnapping the carriers very often so I'm not concerned.

I remain a very satisfied EPS customer. Good gear is worth the wait, especially if the order is custom in any way. Likely if I'd ordered carved leather, the wait would have been longer, and the cost would have been more. EPS has always come through with me with good quality and construction as well as good communication during the process. That's my experience, which began with the company in the 1960's. I believe there has been some change in ownership during that period, but no change in customer service or product quality in my personal experience!

Forgot to mention that I got a nice color current catalog in the package with the mag carriers. Glad to have it. It's a beauty worthy of spending some time finding out if there is anything else they have that i need! There ya go!
 
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I've bought a couple of holsters from EPS in the last 3 years or so. In each case delivery was as promised, about 5 weeks. The holsters were well made and still in use. Questions I asked by email are answered in a reasonable time frame. All in all, I'll buy holsters from them again.
 
As promised! I placed an online order for two plain black leather slip fit magazine holsters for my Shield45. Confirmation was very prompt, same day, with a "thank you" and order receipt was close on the heels of the confirmation, again same day. On May 18, I received notice that the package was tendered to FedEx Express Saver with promised delivery on May 23.

The package was delivered today as promised. I made previous comment that this seemed a long time for a delivery from El Paso to Lubbock. Not a fuss, mind you, just a curiosity. Following the delivery of the package with the tracking number indicated that it first went almost clean across the country to Memphis, TN and turned around and came back here on the exact day promised up front. Not a problem, just a curiosity for me.

I can also report that the products are both of excellent construction, just what I wanted, and I am very pleased with them. These mag carriers were stated to be slip fit. I will say that it's gonna take a few days of stretching the leather a bit by the means of wrapping a few layers of kitchen waxed paper around them and placing the mags inside the carriers, which took considerable effort. Not to worry, (unless some of you report me filching some of my wife's waxed paper from the kitchen for this purpose!) :D

The slip fit is very snug, which bodes well for mag retention after I get them relaxed just a bit. These carriers should retain their shape very well, and they fit tight on my belt against the waist band of my britches, meaning that they should not move around much out of position on my belt. They also are constructed with a pull the dot snap that holds the leather that makes the belt loop to the rear body of the carrier which should allow the carrier to be removed from the belt if necessary without removing your belt and sliding it through a solid loop. I've had good luck with pull the dot snaps, and even if one should eventually relax it's grip, they are easily replaced. I don't expect to be unsnapping the carriers very often so I'm not concerned.

I remain a very satisfied EPS customer. Good gear is worth the wait, especially if the order is custom in any way. Likely if I'd ordered carved leather, the wait would have been longer, and the cost would have been more. EPS has always come through with me with good quality and construction as well as good communication during the process. That's my experience, which began with the company in the 1960's. I believe there has been some change in ownership during that period, but no change in customer service or product quality in my personal experience!

Forgot to mention that I got a nice color current catalog in the package with the mag carriers. Glad to have it. It's a beauty worthy of spending some time finding out if there is anything else they have that i need! There ya go!

Sounds good!
 
I have bought two holsters from them in the last 12 months and have no complaints, other than their website needs some tuning. I usually try to call if I can when I order a holster from them, but don't always get someone on the first call.



Yeah I had issues with their web site on my most recent order. When I called and got VM, they called me back next day. Very courteous and took my order for a Summer Cruiser over the phone.

It arrived 5-weeks later as promised and is awesome, as are the other four EPS holsters plus belts I’ve bought over the years.

I’m not sure what more the OP expects.
 
El Paso is notorious for long waits and

a lack of feedback to its customers.



It's been that way for years.



I have a few of their holsters and like

them very much but if I was in the

market for new leather, I'd go elsewhere.



A great past reputation can only go so far.



For Western crafters, plenty of other makers

are in the business, some catering to SASS,

Single Action Shooting Society (Cowboy Action

Shooting).



What do you consider a reasonable wait for a custom holster?

Their site says four to eight weeks. I received my most recent order in five. My VM was returned the next day.

Thanks to the web, just about any artisan shop with a reputation for high quality work is going to be seriously backed up.

You can’t hire nine women and produce a baby in one month.

As to customer communications, I prefer they focus on building quality leather goods than blowing sunshine up my butt.
 
I guess I got lucky. But I just bought a brand new unused holster from El Paso Saddlery from a friend for 15 bucks made specifically for a 6" 617.
 
All FedEx packages go through Memphis. That is their hub. Doesn't matter if the origin and destination are feet apart.
 
Little Rock AR was the original hub for FedEx. They couldn't / wouldn't make the kind of deals for the airport that FedEx thought it would need (who ever would have thought FedEx would become anything?).

So FedEx made a deal with Memphis, and moved.

A decision I'm sure a lot of the city / airport management of the time really regret now.
 
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