Myth busters

J

jrm53

Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2009
Messages
1,873
Reaction score
1,089
Location
Rogers Arkansas
Did any of you guys catch Myth-Busters last night, they showed the movie pistol shooting syles and how accurate they were. They started off with the 2 hand Weaver stance which was the best, next they shot from the hip and could'nt hit much, next was the one handed NRA bullseye shooting and they did pretty well not as good as the Weaver. The last style was the gangsta style where they held the auto with the right hand side of the slide up, (if they had had a pistol like some one posted here a couple of years ago with the sights mounted on the RH side of slide they might could of hit the target) but they didnt and they could not hit their rear end with the sideways pistol. It was 2 decent pistol shots that participated in the tests. The results could have been predicted by any member of the S&W forum. I would have liked to see them shoot a revolver gangsta style! Jeff
 
Register to hide this ad
Your talking about the Homeboy Sights.

GhettoGlock.jpg
 
Never miss Myth Busters. I'm in love with Keri Byron !!!!!!! Enjoyed last night but it would have been more accurate if they had been shooting at life size targets rather than a bullseye.


Ted
 
Ya know next time I take my Commander in .38 super to the range I am going to have to try a magazine gansta style just for the heck of it. Be interesting to see how the recoil is shooting that way.
 
Hip shooting is an acquired skill, and very perishable. When I had my own pistol range I practiced it for hours on end with a Model Ten, drawing from a Sam Browne belt holster. After a few months I could bounce a soda can with almost every shot. Eventually I could keep a can bouncing for five or six shots at a time. When winter set in I stopped practicing, and by spring I was right back to square one. So if you want to be a real gunfighter, you have to live where there's no winter..............or commute. ;)
 
I dont trust mythbusters, I 100% gave up on them when they dropped a dummy out of a helicopter at varying hights to see how hard the water below him would hit based on the height he was dropped out of the helicopter

when obiviously its not a myth that water can hit as hard as concreate from far up based on your falling velocity and I dont believe that you cant actually shoot a hat off of someone else either, although I'm not going to try it

and that I find is the really annoying thing about that show, they always gotta ruin something you'd like to be true from a movie even though your never ever going to try and do it in real life, you know why you gotta ruin the suspension of disbelief from a few dollars more?

or was that the good the bad and the ugly where Lee Van Cleef shot his hat off?


that and with hipshooting let me guess they used a semi auto right and it hit low?

I just read a section on that in Elmer Keiths six guns where he said semi autos will always hit low when shooting from the hip however that can be rectified with practice

although I did fire a glock 23 from the hip using the lazer sights as my guide that was mounted in the guide rod at about 15 feet and it was dead on, however I'm not sure how well that would play into learning how to shoot from the hip minus the lazer sight.


while a well balanced revolver that suits you well will with practice can be shot accurately up to 30 feet from the hip as the weight is above your hand with a revolver vs right in the palm of your hand with a semi auto, allowing the revolver to better allign with your pointing finger which will naturally line up with whatever your eyeing with your dominant eye, although like anything else you actually need to practice it constantly till it becomes second nature like your griping stance on the one gun you always use.

however as gun collectors that goes against our very nature to only use one gun all the time at the range and the only gun I ever did that with for about 3 years was a WW2 walther P38.
 
Last edited:
glenncal1 said:
Ya know next time I take my Commander in .38 super to the range I am going to have to try a magazine gansta style just for the heck of it. Be interesting to see how the recoil is shooting that way.
Click to expand...

The late Jim Cirillo, a.k.a. The Modern Day Gunfighter due to the fact that he had been in something like 15 gun fights while a member of the NYPD Stake Out Squad advocated shooting that way with a semi if you had to do so one handed, especially if that one hand was your "reaction," or "weak hand."

He likened it to throwing a punch, explaining that your wrist wouldn't break as easily, as in limp-wristing, if the hand & wrist was kept squared with the arm, which gave it better support all the way up to the shoulder. The way he demonstrated it left no doubt in my mind that his line of thinking made a lot of sense.

If I'm not mistaken he referred to that style as, "The Cirillo Cant."
 
brucev said:
Watched Myth Busters most of last evening. Very enjoyable. I would love to help run some of the tests.
Click to expand...
We did at the last place I worked at. If you saw the episode where they tried to cut the cars (AMC Eagles) in half by running them into a snowplow....that was it. "Alaska Special2". Kari, Grant and Tory were out by us for a few days, very nice in person.

It was a great time.
 
I guess it is just me but, I shoot better one handed than with two.
The recoil is easier for me to control also----don't ask me why--I am just posting MY observations.
I also notice that my grip, two handed are most uncomfortable and less steady, two handed.
OK-OK, I know that I am weird.:)
Blessings
 
I think I'd better keep shooting "straight up". At least
until my shooting improves. I've only been shooting for about 40 years,
and most tin cans are pretty safe in my vicinity. TACC1
 
Hi:
The last time I trained for a "Officer Down Rescue" scenerio with shields-
we were trained to fire "Gangsta Style"with the gunhand held around the shield as we were walking backwards covering the Officers carrying the injuried officer.
 
I used to watch Mythbusters all the time, but it was their total lack of knowledge and understanding of firearms that made me stop. Which is too bad now, because the above mentioned episode is the first time my daugher ever asked about firearms and I didn't know what they had said.

But that was alright, I just started at the beginning.

I've heard people say that gangsta shooting doesn't work, in spite of all of the dead gangstas, and innocent children, we've had around here. Like most styles of shooting it depends on the circumstances and it has its' advantages and disadvantages. One thing to keep in mind though is that it takes lots of practice, just like every other style of shooting, including hip shooting. It does work best with high capacity 9mms and you must make sure your weapon/ammo combination will work shooting sideways as some I've tried would jam due to gravity.
 
If you have any doubts about hip shooting just google Bill Jordan. The man would hip shoot aspirin with a model 19. He also wrote a very good book "No Second Place Winner"

Ted
 
There was one more segment on that show, 2 gun style, staight ahead with both hands and one with the right hand firing to the left and the left hand firing to the right, I have to admit I was in the potty on this segment but according to my wife they looked good but could not hit anything. Jeff
 
One of my favorite new shows is 'Person of Interest'.
In one show a bad guy holds a glock on the good guy gangsta style.
The hero explains to him that it's very hard to hit anything that way, and if he fires the gun it will throw shell casings in his face.
Then he takes it away from him and kneecaps everyone in the room.
 
When they talk about firearms myths, a lot of those myths were "busted" long ago. Their "revelations" are like someone discovering that fire is hot, or that water is wet.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Back
Top