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Old 12-29-2011, 10:28 PM
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As of Tuesday here in Missouri it is illegal to use a cell phone while driving. This includes hands free, push to talk, texting or regular old talking on one. I watched a beer truck driver try about 5 times to park his truck in front of the liquor store the other day while never removing the cell phone from the side of his head. He finally parked it catywompus and started unloading, still talking. He was still talking on his phone as he left the store and drove away. A car backed out of a parking place at the store the other day and as he swung out in reverse, he missed the front of my truck by about an inch, never looked back, never quit talking.
I agree with this new law but how can it be enforced? People ain't gonna quit talking on their phones. I wonder what the fine will be. I wonder if all of those that are constantly on the phone in their cars, will all be parked along the side of the road or something? That oughta work. If I get caught, I'll just stuff it in my mug of beer or something. Maybe in the glove box with my loaded handgun. I know, I'll super glue it to my ear and claim I'm going to the hospital to get it removed
This law ain't gonna work folks. I'm kinda anxios to see how it all works out though.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:49 PM
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I never had a cell phone till just a few years ago when the wife tattooed it to me ... I still dont carry it often. to be honest i pack my 45 more than I do the phone.
the thing is, I like my little universe behind the wheel. its peaceful in the pony and I like to keep it that way.
in My stang you will find a good sound system plying anything from Zeppelin to WASP ... because I want it there. if your there to enjoy it, its because I want you there. What I wont have in my car is any undue drama to spoil the experience. I dont need a phone diluting the joy with outside drama. Ill be there when I get there and that'll take just as long as I see fit. if I didnt know it'd have been more a curse than a blessing I'd have had a cell phone at least 10 years ago.
the law and the proposed variants of it here make no difference to me.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:59 PM
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Maybe the law will be used to establish liability in accidents.

I've been hit (in cars) twice by idiots on cell phones and just the other day a lady and I were pushed (literally) by a woman backing out of a parking space in a big parking lot.
She never heard the woman I was with banging on her trunk lid..... Too busy talking on the phone.
I figure it must have been something very important.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:06 PM
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Gordon, where did you get this info? I've been listening to the news and haven't heard about it.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:12 PM
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Ohhh - My favorite:
My buddy Larry lives up near JcMack. He lives in NW Indiana and worked in Chicago.
One day on the way to work he stopped at a red light - his new Town Car was the last car in the line.
Larry looked up and saw a car coming from behind him at about 45 mph and said to himself, "There's no way that car's going to stop."
Sure enough.....
Lincoln is totaled and so is the car that hit him. He ran to the car and a woman is laying across the front seats. Larry figured she was dead!
About then she sits up and exclaims, "I was just in an accident and dropped my phone - Sorry. Anyway, like I said, I just can't see what she sees in him and I told her so."
Now Larry's yelling at her to hang up and call 911 when one of Chicago's Finest rolls up.
The woman tells the cop that Larry backed into her (!) and that he's lying - She doesn't even own a cell phone -- when her phone rings
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:28 PM
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I live in Jeff City and have heard that this was being considered, but I never heard it had passed and was signed by our gov. But I don't keep track of what Nixon signs anymore........I think the local paper would have made a big deal about this...but since I have retired?????? What am I talking about I have not enforeced traffic since the 60's thank the good Lord...
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:32 PM
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If Iowa ever gets that law, I'm doomed. I rarely text when driving, but I'm constantly talking at that time. Today I was leaving Mom's house when a client called. I was talking to her for a few minutes when I get another incoming call. It's my answering service. Prospective surveillance client. Talked to him for 15 minutes, made appointment for meeting tomorrow, had to write the details down....all while driving. Then called first client back and made plans for surveillance for tonight......All while driving.
I don't think I could stay in business without being in constant contact.

Hey, now that I think about it, that sounds kinda nice.

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Put a chip in all cars or cells phones so that cell phones do not work inside of cars.

However THAT will probably never happen.

"They" will infringe on Consitutional firearms rights but not "car rights" which are not covered in the same document.

I too am seeing more cell phone use while driving and it is dangerous.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:17 AM
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I have lived peacefully without a wireless leash for the past 11 years. I broke down and got a Virgin Mobile a couple of months ago because I knew I would have an Android issued to me as a recruiter. Figured I might as well try to at least figure it out a bit. After recruiting, I hope I can "quit" cell phoning, but I really doubt it.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:59 AM
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We have enough stupid drivers in Missouri, but every time I see someone doing something stupid, they've got a phone screwed in their ear. I passed a lady yesterday who was in the passing lane on a 4-lane interstate, driving 51 mph and just yakking away, totally oblivious to all the traffic piling up behind her. I honked as I went around her, and she took the one hand off the wheel to flip me off.

I do NOT answer the phone while I'm driving. It can wait until I get somewhere, put on my glasses, and figure out who it was.

I don't listen to the local media or watch TV, but I have seen no mention of this new law. I'd be shocked if it was actually enacted with so little hysteria.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:01 AM
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I wish they would ban them in all 50 States. I hate getting behind someone in an establishment and, the person can't even give their order because they're on the phone.

I hate texting even more.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:04 AM
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According to what I could find for 2011 legislation, there wasn't any bill being considered to ban cell phone use OTHER THAN TEXTING while driving.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:15 AM
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I love the laws that ban all electronic communications while driving. I wonder how Police will talk with out a radio. You cannot out legislate idiots.
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A high school girl texting her boyfriend ran a red light and T-boned my wife and daughter in our Yukon. It should be illegal, if only to help the victims recover damages.
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I posted a bit ago about my cell phone usage while driving, and I do it very well, but some people just tick me off, especially THOSE people, if you get my drift.
A few years ago I was conducting moving surveillance in a domestic case and was driving on a road with a 45 MPH speed limit. The lady I was following was about a quarter mile ahead of me. As I often do when conducting surveillance I was keeping an eye on her through binoculars as I was driving. I know, I know, sounds dangerous, but I have done it a lot, and am very skilled at it. (You LEOs can probably relate). I was coming up on the next cross street and saw a Blonde (Strike One) Woman (Strike Two) in an SUV (Strike Three). at a stop sign preparing to pull out in front of me. I thought to myself "Please, don't pull out in front of me!" I put down the binos and just as I got up to her, she pulls out. EVASIVE MANEUVER TIME!!! Just missed her. AS I whizzed past I went to give her a dirty look. She didn't even notice me, too busy with the phone up to her head. (Strike Four).
Yeah, I'll never stop doing it. But SOME people should! Sheesh!
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It is illegal in Georgia to text while driving. Of course it is illegal in Georgia to travel over the posted speed limit and we know how well teens obey that law. For that matter, we know how well adults obey the speed limit, especially around Atlanta. There is a reason that truckers call the I-285 bypass "The Watermelon 500." Point being that idiots doing 85 in a 55 zone aren't going to pay any attention to any cell phone ban.

I did hear something about someone had a chip or device of some kind that could be mounted in cars to mess up cell phone signals. Of course some multi-million dollar government study funded by the NIH would probably find that it gave you big toe cancer or something.

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Old 12-30-2011, 09:44 AM
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I wish they would ban them in all 50 States. I hate getting behind someone in an establishment and, the person can't even give their order because they're on the phone.

I hate texting even more.
I do not have any quarrel with you, but this is the kind of statement that anti-gunners make about our guns. Banning them is not the answer. It's the same for any and all devices. In fact, I read the study the state provided to use as justification for this ban, and it says pretty clearly that the device is not the thing that distracts the driver, but the conversation. By that rationale, with my son sitting next to me in the car, I should NOT engage in conversation with him.
The whole thing is bunk. How many cops/firefighters/ambulance drivers use their radio handset all day long behind the wheel, and never have a problem. People are getting less capable, and more laws doesn't fix that.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:47 AM
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A high school girl texting her boyfriend ran a red light and T-boned my wife and daughter in our Yukon. It should be illegal, if only to help the victims recover damages.
My wife got rear-ended in her car at a red light and my three-year-old daughter got a facefull of glass. Still not the fault of the device the driver was using, but of the driver who was completely at fault.
Banning the use of a device is not going to even slightly curb the accidents caused by the people who can't put these things down. More laws is never the answer.
My best wishes for your family, and I am very sorry to hear about the crash.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:13 AM
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January 6 2006 female school bus driver on her way to pickup her bus to start her morning run droped her cell phone on the floor of her p/u, when she bent down to get it she ran head on into my brother. He died instently, she never got a ticket even though she admitted she had caused the accident.We later found out she was friends with the P/A.
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Sorry about your loss, bearman, there just aren't words for something like that.

I don't like the dang things. But I don't think they necessarily cause accidents either, the thing that causes accidents are the idiots who can't keep their mind on the task at hand while they're driving. Cell phones are actually a help in this matter, kind of a visual warning beacon, or "flag", because they expose the idiots to our view (unless they have tinted windows) so that we can (hopefully) be prepared for their lack of attention when they drive by. I would, however, be all for some kind of technology to block texting from a moving vehicle, driving while texting should be an instant, year's suspension of ones driver's license in my opinion. 2nd offense, 5 years and 3rd offense = lifetime suspension. That's how it would work in my little dictatorship anyway.

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I guess you can't hear me now anymore. We had an accident here just before Christmas, a young lady hit a log truck head on while texting (not the same as talking, I know). She did not survive. Maybe we ought to take a good look at our rights and see if they ever endanger the rights of those around us. I like talking on my phone while I drive, but maybe it's time for me to consider others. After all, ten years ago I survived just fine without a cell phone. Just my two cents worth, which is worth even less in today's economy.
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There were stupid drivers long before there were cell phones. I remember back during the CB radio craze of the 70's there was discussion of outlawing talking on CB radio's. Then and now, the problem wasn't the gizmo. It was people who think they are the exception to the rule. They don't need to worry about it, because they can do it just fine. It's those OTHER people who can't.
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The problem is people have turned a good thing into a bad thing. Most people cant drive to begin with and using a cell phone while driving doesnt help matters any. There is a time and place for everything, Let me carry my firearms from state to state without fear of going to jail,and make using phones while driving illegal,we will all live longer .
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For all who think you can do it skillfully or it is necessary for your livelihood, you are driving no better than a drunk, period.
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Here in LA, the fine is about 60 bucks...but on your third offense they take your phone away, disconnect the service, and give it to the homeless shelter. This fixes two things at once...it gets talking drivers off the road and it makes homeless people who talk to themselves all day seem not so crazy.
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I do not have any quarrel with you, but this is the kind of statement that anti-gunners make about our guns. Banning them is not the answer. It's the same for any and all devices. In fact, I read the study the state provided to use as justification for this ban, and it says pretty clearly that the device is not the thing that distracts the driver, but the conversation. By that rationale, with my son sitting next to me in the car, I should NOT engage in conversation with him.
The whole thing is bunk. How many cops/firefighters/ambulance drivers use their radio handset all day long behind the wheel, and never have a problem. People are getting less capable, and more laws doesn't fix that.
You are comparing texting and driving with our 2nd Amendment right to bear arms?? Good grief.

Banning the use of cell phones while driving IS the answer..the only answer. If our law enforcement take this seriously, which I think they will, they can come down hard on these ***** hats that drive around with a phone stuck to their ear. The commercial drivers can lose their license with just one infraction.

I hope this law scares the hell out of them, at least enough to pull over if they absolutely have to use that stupid phone. If I'm wrong and the LE people don't enforce it with any vigor then it will just be another law on the books. Let's hope not.
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We have a hands free cell phone policy at work. If you are caught using a phone other than hands free in a department vehicle it's a 3 day suspension for 1st offence. 2nd offence is termination. So far I have terminated three employees.
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this cell phone **** is the same as the anti's trying to take away YOUR gun rights. funny how this all works, since YOU dont like the cell phones, YOU want them banned. SINCE THE ANTI gun people , dont like like guns THEY want them banned.


how about we worry about ourselves and not what else to make illegal cause its "dangerous".

punish for actions, AFTER something happens, not before. give me my liberty dangit, let me worry about what is safe.

im sure this will be met with criticism here, and how its not the same as gun grabbers.

sit down and think about it, it really is, same for pot.


WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF, NOT WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING.

if they hit you while on the phone, sue them.
if you get shot, shoot back, or pay attention and dont let either happen, stop backing more and more laws, that "keep us safe".

dont know about you, but i dont trade my liberty for safety.
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this cell phone **** is the same as the anti's trying to take away YOUR gun rights. funny how this all works, since YOU dont like the cell phones, YOU want them banned. SINCE THE ANTI gun people , dont like like guns THEY want them banned.


how about we worry about ourselves and not what else to make illegal cause its "dangerous".

punish for actions, AFTER something happens, not before. give me my liberty dangit, let me worry about what is safe.

im sure this will be met with criticism here, and how its not the same as gun grabbers.

sit down and think about it, it really is, same for pot.


WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF, NOT WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING.

if they hit you while on the phone, sue them.
if you get shot, shoot back, or pay attention and dont let either happen, stop backing more and more laws, that "keep us safe".

dont know about you, but i dont trade my liberty for safety.
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And those that would oppose drunk and *impaired* drivers should be ashamed too!! Drunks have almost as many accidents as folks driving while on the phone.

A drunk kills your family with his car or truck - Sue 'em! That'll teach 'em.
Someone *distracted* by their phone kills your family - Sue 'em!
Heck - You can always get a new family - Besides now you'll have a bunch of $$$$

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It would make things a lot easier if everyone had a handsfree device. I have a jawbone earpiece and haven't held a phone since bluetooth technology came out. It's a lot easier than holding a phone to your head and you can keep both hands on the wheel unless your eating a hamburger, talking on the c.b. radio, drinking a coke and changing gears all at the same time.
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It's a lot easier than holding a phone to your head and you can keep both hands on the wheel unless your eating a hamburger, talking on the c.b. radio, drinking a coke and changing gears all at the same time.
I am not making this up! I was behind someone driving a Jeep on Moreland Avenue in Atlanta about a year ago. I swear he was actually talking on the phone, eating what appeared to be a hamburger, taking sips of his drink, smoking a cigarette and shifting gears. I guess he was driving with his knees. I commented to my wife that he was going to kill someone driving like that. Thankfully it's a four lane highway and I think I was about 15 or 20 mph over the posted speed passing that fool.

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There were articles in the paper and news about the big accident on I-44 last year when some school busses were involved. The driver that caused the accident had sent 11 text messages in the last 11 minutes of his life as he ran his pickup into the back of a semi. The NTSB, i believe, was calling for a national ban on cell phone use in vehicles. However, that has not been done in Missouri. The legislature let die a bill last session on banning texting for all drivers. It is unlawful for minors only, at the present time.
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There were articles in the paper and news about the big accident on I-44 last year when some school busses were involved. The driver that caused the accident had sent 11 text messages in the last 11 minutes of his life as he ran his pickup into the back of a semi. The NTSB, i believe, was calling for a national ban on cell phone use in vehicles. However, that has not been done in Missouri. The legislature let die a bill last session on banning texting for all drivers. It is unlawful for minors only, at the present time.
Legislative update: The House and Senate both will consider 2012 bills that seek to ban text messaging by all drivers in Missouri. Both were prefiled in mid-December 2011.
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this cell phone **** is the same as the anti's trying to take away YOUR gun rights. funny how this all works, since YOU dont like the cell phones, YOU want them banned. SINCE THE ANTI gun people , dont like like guns THEY want them banned.



how about we worry about ourselves and not what else to make illegal cause its "dangerous".

punish for actions, AFTER something happens, not before. give me my liberty dangit, let me worry about what is safe.

im sure this will be met with criticism here, and how its not the same as gun grabbers.

sit down and think about it, it really is, same for pot.


WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF, NOT WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING.

if they hit you while on the phone, sue them.
if you get shot, shoot back, or pay attention and dont let either happen, stop backing more and more laws, that "keep us safe".

dont know about you, but i dont trade my liberty for safety.
Not sure where to even start with this. First off, what others are doing is my concern when it comes to the hiway.

A friend of mine was in a neighboring town, sitting at a stop light on his motorcycle. He was rear ended by a High School kid who was texting his girlfriend. This guy was a 57 year old grandfather. He was pushed into the intersection and run over by a truck, he died before the ambulance got there. I have ridden through that town many times, it could just as easily been me sitting at that light instead of him.

It's insane to claim that we should not worry about what others are doing on the road.
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A friend of mine defended cell phone use while driving by saying it was exactly the same as having a conversation with the guy next to you in the car. I countered with the notion that if it's a hands-free system, that's essentially true. But it seems like every time I see someone "driving inattentively", it's because they have a cell phone held to their ear, and they refuse to turn their head to check right-of-way or their mirrors because it would interfere with their cell phone use. THOSE are the people causing accidents and running into other folks. Distracted drivers are every bit as dangerous as drunk drivers.......and often more impaired.
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Even a hands free system results in increased reaction times. The car becomes a multi ton phone booth. The problem isn't so much "hands free" vs "in hand", as it is focus. Attention becomes focused on the conversation, not the driving. Do the math, considering speed and distance covered. At 60mph, you are covering 80 ft per second. How many times have you avoided an "accident" by less than a few seconds. With the phones effect on reaction time, you are dead. Argue all you want, studies have been done and the phone on a car reduces your performance to that of a drunk. This is fact, not opinion.

In MN, using the roads is legally a privilege, one that can be taken away.

I don't mind too much if you decide to wrap around a tree or a bridge, but I've had several multi ton phone booths chase me around my lane on the highway, and I believe your rights end where mine begin.

( as an aside- the concept that goes hand in hand with "My Right" is "My Duty". A part of the equation usually forgotten)
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dougb1946 has it right, the problem is focus, the phone makes your brain focus on the conversation. This happened to me last year and I never have used the phone while driving since then. My wife called me needing something from the store, I was first in line in the left turn lane at a red light. The light turned green and I went, right in front of a caar that slammed on his brakes and missed me by one inch! We both got out and looked for damage. I apoligized to him and we went our own ways. As I reconstructed it, I remembered seeing the car but due to talking on the phone it did not register with my brain as a threat. I saw the car and went anyway-because the phone made my brain focus on the conversation. One poster said he talks while driving all the time and does it well. Most drunk drivers think they drive well also. And studies have shown that phone use while driving is akin to drunk driving due to the lack of situational awareness it causes. PLEASE think about it before you use the phone while driving. To coin a phrase: THE LIFE YOU SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN! God Bless.
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Firearms are "supposedly" protected by the Constitution as a guaranteed "right"...although politicians and judges are interfering with that "right".

Cars and cellphones are not protected by the Constitution.

Ban cell-phones in autos. We have the technology to nullify their use in an automobile.

And I drive and I rarely use my cell phone while driving but I do it. And I was trained to multi-task better than most people as an air traffic controller. And I still sometimes cannot drive well while "phoning".

But...I say ban the practice. However it won't happen, our society has become ill-informed as to what constitutes a "right".
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For all who think you can do it skillfully or it is necessary for your livelihood, you are driving no better than a drunk, period.
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yep, more laws, thats what we need. oh please mr. officer keep me safe. seems life was better when our lives were not regulated to death.

dont know about you guys but im an adult and can make my OWN decisions, dont need a cop or politician making decisions for me.

yep more laws, but hey that is NOTHING like gun bans.

ignorance IS bliss.

sad.

i guess ill just keep on worrying about myself and not wanting people punished until AFTER they do something wrong, guess that makes me a pretty horrible person. OR a TRUE American. have fun living safe with all the safety laws you support, wait till your guns are gone, because they COULD kill someone if used irresponsibly. but hey thats not the same.


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Last time I was in Ozark County MO, there were no cell phone towers, and no reception, so it shouldn't be too difficult down there. It's kind of nice, there's a nice trout stream and the lodge has "1" telephone in the lobby for use, none in the rooms, and no TV either. Kind of nice.
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yep, more laws, thats what we need. oh please mr. officer keep me safe. seems life was better when our lives were not regulated to death.

dont know about you guys but im an adult and can make my OWN decisions, dont need a cop or politician making decisions for me.

yep more laws, but hey that is NOTHING like gun bans.

ignorance IS bliss.

sad.

i guess ill just keep on worrying about myself and not wanting people punished until AFTER they do something wrong, guess that makes me a pretty horrible person. OR a TRUE American. have fun living safe with all the safety laws you support, wait till your guns are gone, because they COULD kill someone if used irresponsibly. but hey thats not the same.


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Do we want the government to hold our hands and wipe our noses? Seriously?
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I wish they would outlaw cell phone use in moving vehicles here in SC. Too many good folks have been seriously injured or killed here in the past couple years and the numbers are on the rise nationwide, I understand.

Some people, younger drivers in particular, should not even be allowed in a vehicle with a cell phone. 99% of the teenage females I see on the road are yaking with a phone pinned to their ear. I have actually observed drivers going down the road with their neck craned over with the phone pressed to the shoulder, looking back and forth in the rear view putting on lipstick while doing 60 mph. That chickie should have her license revoked until she's 21.

I don't see banning cell phone use in cars as a danger to our 2nd ammendment rights. I'll bet if a driver using a phone for talking or texting killed the love of your life, one of your children, your parents or a good friend you would change your tune in a heartbeat. The truth is, I've had friends and aquaintances that had loved ones killed by guns, both accidentally and during the commision of a crime. These people were true Americans, good sensible people and before the loss, supporters of the 2nd. In a heartbeat they were calling for stricter gun laws. Losing a loved one, young or old, unexpectedly to neglect, wheather by a gun or a phone changes you forever. Talk is cheap, the loss of a life is forever. Think about it !!!

The real pisser in my area is that the little cuties just get their hand slapped when they cause an accident and they are right back out there the very next day. I'm not a bit sexist or prejudiced against younger drivers but this phone deal is just too darned dangerous and out of control. My very own 37 year old daughter has been the subject of my anger over this. What's so bad is they really don't seem to "get it" or care.

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I am not making this up! I was behind someone driving a Jeep on Moreland Avenue in Atlanta about a year ago. I swear he was actually talking on the phone, eating what appeared to be a hamburger, taking sips of his drink, smoking a cigarette and shifting gears. I guess he was driving with his knees. I commented to my wife that he was going to kill someone driving like that. Thankfully it's a four lane highway and I think I was about 15 or 20 mph over the posted speed passing that fool.

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Funny you would post this and I would read it because; Just the other day I watched a 30ish year old woman talking on her celly, eating something from Burger King (I could see the wrapper), sipping an obviously hot drink, smoking, and adjusting her makeup in the rear view mirror. This was all being done on a very busy four lane highway with a speed limit of 40 mph. I'm glad she at least didn't have to shift gears!

Most of these people are probably just nice, everyday folks caught up in hectic daily activities. The sad side is they don't have a clue (or don't care) how quickly an accident can happen until its too late. Tomorrow, Jan. 3rd, marks the 14th anniversary of our fourteen year old daughter being killed by an uncaring and out of control drunk / drug using driver for which he only spent 2 1/2 years out of a 3 year sentence in jail. Have I forgiven him? Some days yes, other days no. I do believe strongly however there should be laws banning cell phone use in any way while operating a motor vehicle just as there are laws concerning driving while under the influence. I also feel the punishments for breaking such laws should be very harsh (especially if an accident occurs) and not allowed to be "pleaded down" by defense attorneys. You do the crime, you suffer the time, period! Our society should expect nothing less - Anything less is BS!

Oh, and by the way, to compare this topic to our Constitutional right to bare arms is ludicrous, to say the least !
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Do we want the government to hold our hands and wipe our noses?
At the funerals of those killed by cell phone using drivers, maybe.
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The first time I heard about this law banning the use of cell phones in Missouri, was on the local,(Springfield KY3 news), and they indicated it was for all drivers. It was supposed to take effect on Tuesday, the 3rd. Then just last night I got the impression that it was for commercial drivers only. I wonder why the press doesn't say much about some things and never shut up about others?
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