Guns in house while it is for sale

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I need some advice from the collective. We're likely putting our home on the market, with open houses, realtors having the alarm code, basically having people we don't know come through while we're not home.

I have two small gun safes, next to the bed and in a closet. Long guns in that closet as well. I don't want them in the house for people to notice, but can't think of a secure alternative. I would hate to store them at a friend's house and have them stolen from there. Not a high crime area, but not crime free either.

Has anyone dealt with this? Any suggestions? :confused:
 
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Can you keep them both in one closet, lock the closet and tell the realtors that is not available to show? Some people will guess, but it will be just a guess.

I recommend, too, that you keep the bolts elsewhere. Whenever I have to leave the safe unattended for a longer amount of time, I take the bolts out of everything I can (wheels out of wheel guns) and take them to the safety deposit box/a friend's house). Then at least if they get stolen they aren't functioning.
 
My daughter purchased a home 8 years ago,,
when she toured the home, there were over 20 long guns just setting in corners of two bedrooms.

Another neighbor had 30 long guns setting around the house,
they were there until a year after he passed away.

I know it is wrong,,, but, some people do not care.

Throw them between the mattresses of a bed,
and toss a few boxes on the bed, so no one lays down,,, and fugetaboutit.
 
Here's another vote for putting them in a locking closet, if possible. Or perhaps put them in something like a cedar chest, and stack stuff on top of the chest. Do-it-yourself security video cameras are fairly reasonably priced now - if I was selling my house, I'd put cameras in certain rooms. If you put your guns in a closet, point a camera at the closet door so you'll see if anyone messes with them.
 
And you also have to consider that if an open house visitor is on parole, having any unsecured weapons creates a big legal issue for both parties, should anything happen.
 
When my Realtor toured my place, he burst out laughing. There were guns everywhere! He wouldn't allow anyone to tour the house without his being there (not any of his people, just him!) I made arrangements for secure storage. 225 guns later I thought they were all gone' and we allowed tours. When I was packing to move, I took the two windows of drapes down in the reloading room and found 4 more stacks of guns! We finally got the place sold, and good riddance!

Ivan
 
I'd be worried about theft and resale.

Theft--locking them out of sight is a start. But until you're out, consider yourself targeted for a burglary. Now, good agents practice good security, including having the IDs of potential buyers on-file back at the office. But frankly, I've seen too many agents ignore that practice (at risk of their own safety, and jeopardizing the safety of the sellers). Presume that not only are the "buyers" a bunch of junkie thieves, who will drop the dime on you to their junkie friends, but also the other agents. All your valuables should be locked up 24/7 until you're out.

Resale is important, as well. Anything that can put off a buyer should go, and a lot of that will count towards security as well. Nobody should be able to suspect you've got guns--and that means de-gunning your basement gun area, as well, and boxing up all your gun magazines. Ditto for family photographs (and consider that a security step, as well). You don't want your gun collection chasing off a sale, potentially costing you thousands.

Having an "off-limits" closet is not a good idea. Buyers will presume the worst: horrible water damage, a terrible mold smell, or that you stuffed all your clothes in there to disguise a lack of storage. And they will pass before they ask.

A locked armoire, though? Go for it. Most people will just assume that's where you keep the sex toys and bondage gear. Speaking of, you should pretty much assume that every drawer and cabinet in the house is going to get opened and looked in. A lot of these buyer's agents are real lazy ****-lords and won't properly supervise their clients. They'll be playing on their phones in the dining room while their charges are in your bedroom, pawing through your tightie whities.

If you're super-sensitive about that, bag your private stuff up and be ready to pitch it in the car. You don't have to be ready to show your house at a moment's notice, whenever you're out. You can insist that your agent affords you time to do such things. Many people do, in fact. Some even have a minimum of 24 hours' notice written into their listing agreements.

This might actually be a solution to your problem. Depending on the size of your collection and local laws, you might be able to bag, box, and rug everything, load it into your car, and take a drive.

Oh, and refuse open houses. Not only are they horrible security risks, they're not effective at selling houses. What they are good at is generating leads for your agent's employer. If someone's going to buy your house, they're going to find it on the internet, or through the Multiple Listing Service. The people that go to open houses are, in order:

(1) Neighbors
(2) People who aren't seriously looking for a house, just "looking" for a house
(3) Thieves

All three are total wastes of time.

*sigh* What would I do...

...okay. Go to your bestest LGS buddy and ask what he would charge you to store your guns. Work out a per-month price ahead of time, and agree to "one in, one out" rule--in other words, you drop them off once, and pick them up once, no withdrawing your guns and bringing them back whenever you go to the range. You get to keep whatever handguns you can fit into your (bolted-down) small safes. Everything else, you won't be using for awhile.

He might whack you for transfers, but really, a few hundred bucks (depending on the size of your collection) is nothing compared to a lot of sale preparations people do. It might save you thousands, or prevent a robbery. Consider it good encouragement to get a larger safe.
 
The safes themselves are the problem. Unless you can empty them and then leave them open so thieves know there's nothing in them, the mere sight of them is an invitation to come back and steal from them. Otherwise, you have to hide them.
 
Staging

I'm facing the same problem in 2018 when we plan to sell our house of 44 years. I'll have a safe mover put my two safes in the garage (from our basement) and to have them empty. We're moving to North Carolina, near our son and I plan to make a few trips by car to transfer guns, ammo, and guitars. I'm not trusting the stuff to the movers. From the garage, the movers will be able to put the safes on their truck or in a POD, whichever method we use.

If you're serious about selling your home, you need to stage it. That is, remove all clutter and distractions and present your home in as favorable light as possible.
 
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Gun lockers go for under 100 $. A heavy safe, just prior to moving??? A PIA to do once, let alone twice in a short time. As someone mentioned it isn't just guns you need to worry about, (meds/jewelry/etc) strangers could steal just about anything that isn't nailed down. No open house for us. We didn't want anyone rummaging around our closets/drawers etc, & they will if they can get away with it. 1 showing at a time, & viewers are NEVER to be left alone at ANY TIME. Make things clear with the realtor prior to listing with them. People steal stuff, don't make it easy for them.
 
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WE sold our house several years ago. We moved out about 4 months before the house sold. Many times I would go there to check things out while the house was empty. I found doors unlocked, windows open, gates left open, lights on and one time the patio door and screen were wide open. Another time I found the security lock box on the door knob unlocked with the house key still in it. Secure your STUFF don't take anything for granted. Good luck with your sale.
 
I had thought of this situation too should this time ever come.
What do you do with all the gun stuff when the house goes up for sale and people walk through.

I figure the place will have to be scrubbed of anything that says 'Gun'..like magazines, books, all the accessorys we have lying around, ammo, cleaning stuff, tools, hunting clothes, holsters, shell belts, ect.
It's the exact things we all look for immedietly when we walk into a garage sale to sniff out wether there's 'gun stuff' there or not.
Same for everyone else looking to score on a return visit on your home.

I had thought that since the house would be up for sale,,the sight of some premature packing wouldn't be unusual.
Large commercially purchased HD cardboard moving boxes (usually have a Moving Company logo on them) could be used to store the guns in while this whole open house thing plays out.
They could be placed in a basement, garage or spare room & filled, tie-strapped shut for the open house(s). Would not draw any attention other than being stuff already packed and ready to go for the 'move'.
A few boxes filled with the guns on the bottom and a couple half filled open ones on top with common items like sports equipt or common tools would help pass it off well for those who happen to look it over I'd think.
Kinda hidden in plain sight.

Just my thoughts..
 
I put my nightstand gun safe and extra weapons in my wife's car trunk, locked the car, and left it parked in our garage. A small PITA but I felt okay with that strategy.
 
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