Anyone actually use a Randall Knife

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A recent thread prompted me to ask the question. I have been a Randall knife lover since I saw my first one when I was 10. It is the knife pictured which was bought by a good friend of the family before he shipped out to SEA in 1965 with the USMC. He let me "safeguard" it growing up, but it did not become officially mine until I shipped out in Sept. 1984. It did 3 tours with him and I since passed it to my best friend who served in the Corp during the 1st sand box war. I figured a Marine bought it...a Marine should have it, I was Army. This is one of the few Randalls I have seen that has actually been used. Having sold a few lately I know if you use one you lose quite a bit on value. I would love to see what you all have out there that you love and cherish as much I have this knife and have actually used it....would love to hear the stories too.

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Sir, I've always told myself I can't afford a Randall (they are expensive), so for years have made do with a rotating array of cheaper knives. I've belatedly realized that I'd be money ahead if I'd just bought a Randall at an early age and been done with it. This philosophy applies to other aspects of life as well.

Semper Fi,

Ron H.
 
Owners of older Randalls, and especially those from the Vietnam War era, might be surprised at how valuable they have become. I ordered a Model 14 in 1963 and basically kept it unused until last year when I mentioned it to a collector. I had originally paid $40 for the knife, an astronomical sum at the time, and the collector offered me $1550! Since it had no sentimental value, he became the proud new owner.
 
I go by value. We have Randalls, and other knives, we don't use and guns we don't shoot and the decision is made according to value. I am not a rich man and can't afford to shoot thousands of dollars of value down range or scratch up thousand dollar knives. The strict we shoot 'em/use 'em or don't own them doesn't work around here.

User Randalls are not really that expensive, relatively speaking. The last users I bought were a gently used #10-5 off eBay for the kitchen and a #28 from the shop for general field use. Both were pretty reasonable.

Bob
 
I'm sure your aware that the "Solingen" marked Randall blades are considered somewhat rare, & bring a premium as collectibles
 
I have had three, two of which are still with me. The model 23 was stolen from my old Ranchero when in for repair. The #1 was carried a lot during military service and the #14 is still pretty much unused. I wanted the best tools I could get. If someone comes across a Model 23 etched with "W.L. McCann" and "2679942" I would really like to know about it. Stolen in Pittsburg Kansas and who knows where it is now.
 
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I'm sure your aware that the "Solingen" marked Randall blades are considered somewhat rare, & bring a premium as collectibles

Yep I was offered a LOT of money for the knife, but it is priceless sentimentally. I actually had a Randall dealer tell me it was a fake one time...of course he tried to buy it cheap
 
Many Randall knives that have been used are eagerly sought after by Randall collectors as long as they've not been abused. Collectors seem to favor knives with carbon steel blades over those with stainless steel, does anyone know the reason for this? I know that SS is harder to sharpen and hold and edge, but that would make sense for a user not a collector where the knife would sit in a vault.
 
Many Randall knives that have been used are eagerly sought after by Randall collectors as long as they've not been abused. Collectors seem to favor knives with carbon steel blades over those with stainless steel, does anyone know the reason for this? I know that SS is harder to sharpen and hold and edge, but that would make sense for a user not a collector where the knife would sit in a vault.

It may be just tradition as the carbon blades were around longer than SS.
Randall will build you practically anything you want based on one of their models. What collectors really want besides vintage examples are those that have a unique set of upgrades.
This knife is an upgraded 14 which has an oval nickel silver guard and a sawtooth back
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I also have a #16 Special Fighter (not a Dive) with a stainless blade and a waxed sheath which is an upgrade.
 
I actually had a Randall dealer tell me it was a fake one time...
I don't see anything fake about your knife. Although there is no way to be exactly sure, there are very likely a couple things that make the knife unique. It is from among the first made with the Stainless mark on the ricasso parallel to the hilt. It is also among the first made in what is today called the "14 Room". This is a former coffee break room that was converted to production in 1964 to help meet the demand from Nam fighters for 14s, 15s, 17s and 18s. Solingen blades were quite popular on the knives made there as the lead time was only 6 weeks as opposed to a year and a half and they were cheaper than the Randall forged blade. The knife was designed with the Mercury astronauts and ordered by NASA for them to carry in space.

The Solingen bladed Randall is not rare as there were somewhere around 6,000 made. BUT, they are certainly sought after and command a premium. The age yours is and the provenance certainly makes it worth a lot more than the average Astro.

Bob
 
Solingen bladed Randall is not rare as there were somewhere around 6,000 made. BUT, they are certainly sought after and command a premium. The age yours is and the provenance certainly makes it worth a lot more than the average Astro.

Bob

Bob, you do realize this is a 14 Attack and not a 17 Astro?
I do appreciate the info about the tool room though. I am not all that up on Randall's history beyond a few tidbits.
 
Oh, yeah, I've got some that are/have been used. The ones I use most frequently are my steak knives! :) Somewhere, long ago, I picked up a set of 4 of the #6 models. They work well for the intended purpose. The problem is only me and Momma are allowed to feed ourselves with them! :)

And about 15 years ago I ran into a knife seller/swindler (my fault, I submitted with a smile) named Jack Crider. He had a bunch of them he was selling off, so I passed a bunch of cash across the table toward him. One was well used (but you can't tell by looking at it). Its a short blade that doesn't seem to fit any factory standard grind. But someone along the way in West (by Gawd) Virginny took it to an engraver and had it scrached up. Not sure, but I think the name was Shaw Leibowicz or some such. When Jack had it, he was asking a fair price. So after a few gun shows and knife shows, I bought it. When his Missus returned from a potty break, she threw a fit. It was her apple pealin' knife! I offered to sell it back to him (at a fair profit for me) just to appease her. :)

And I've thrown my throwing knife at a tree or two (but with a back stop where I could find it if I missed.)

Less-see, I've never used my carving set. But I did give one away to a buddy for a wedding present. His wife still claims it was the best present they got. The buddy's uncle (Jimmy Garrett) worked at the Randall factory until his death. The buddy had an aluminum handle saltwater fisherman. A third yokel (an term of endearment here in the hills) went to a gunshow one time with us. There on a table was another Saltwater fisherman, with a $500 price tag. The buddy said "I've got one just like that at home!" The non-believer said "oh sure." Never question our sincerity. When we got home, the buddy marched him into the basment (drive-in style). Walked over to his toolbox and pulled out one of the bottom drawers (the large kind). In one smooth motion he turned it upside down on the basment floor and started sorting. Sure enough, within a few seconds he spotted the Randall and pulled it free of the screwdrivers, bolts, wire and stuff! :D It was a classic moment.

Oh, and not to be forgotten, both the buddy and I have Randall folders. Yep. Folding blade Randalls, the kind you've never seen before. Old man Randall felt a knife shouldn't fold. But back right after the old man passed away, the factory solicited some upscale folding knife builders for samples of what could be done. As the story goes (and I can't vouch for it) they sent a few blades to a small number of knife smiths. They got back some samples, but none were pleasing to them so they dropped the project. But some of the blades were later finished into spectacular versions. I'm guessing about 1993 or so... we ran into 2 of them for sale, so we made a "group buy" and picked the two up. Mine has some pretty old bark Ivory handles (scales?), the buddies has smooth Ivory with his sheltie scrimshawed on them! I've been meaning to carry it more often... :) They have open frame liner lock style design. Oh, and they cut steak real well, too.

Hmmm. And about that same time frame I picked up another Randall at a tiny backwoods gun show. It was a pretty casual affair. There might have been a dozen tables, total. I drove about 100 miles to get there and then walked the show in about 10 minutes. No guns of any interest, but in a glass cased display, looking like it had been shook up with the knives inside, I spotted a randall. A bit worse for wear, but I'm not all that particular. Worse, no one knew where the owner of the table had gone. So I hung out waiting. About a half hour later this jolly old guy came back in with a handful of McDonalds bags. He'd bought coffee for the crowd! Generosity is a thing here in Kentucky.

So when he got done distributing the cups around, I asked him if I could see a knife in his display. He laughed and said "Bet yer lookin' fer that old Randall". Yep. So he found the key after some searching and opened it up. As he handed it to me, he apologized and said he'd have to get a full $150 for it. I got a look on my face like I'd been stabbed in the heart. But I looked the knife over real well and finally paid him his price. It even had a name stamped/etched into the off side. Its "Ted Sackett". Never heard of him. But the knife is in with a bunch of others these days, and I don't have a sheath.

I took it to my knife consultant, Joe Gillenwater at the next big show. He looked it over, politely listened to my story, and suggested I'd been taken badly. But he'd help me out of my fix and let me double my money! What a guy. Of course I declined because he had a smile on his face. He said it was a 1960s grind trout and bird. It does fit in an old Buck sheath, so I carry it in that from time to time. It was sharpened a bunch by someone who didn't have a clue how it should be done. But I overlook that and keep it anyway.

Lets see, and I've got a Randall Kit knife with an ivory handle. Did you know Randall used to sell kit knives? Not to be confused with a kit gun, these actually came as a kit the buyer could finish himself. Mine was finished with a chunk of elephant tusk to hold on. The problem was the prior owner kept it in a safe with dessicant or a golden rod. It dried out the ivory an it cracked, stem to stern. The crack on the underside was so wide you could insert a business card. Ugly. But I swallowed any pride I still had and bought it. Took it to the gunroom in the old house and promptly forgot it. I asked my bride to please buy me some Johnson & Johnson baby oil. She forgot. Then when I came across it I looked at the knife in my musty and damp basement, and guess what? Just a little moisture in the air managed to swell the crack shut! You can still see the crack because it had been used and dirt got inside. So I was bad and washed it for about a half hour in warm water. I got some of the dirt worked out of the crack, but you can still see it. :(

OK, I'm tired of keying any Y'all are tired of readin'. I'll just go take a nap.
 
Oh, yeah, I've got some that are/have been used. The ones I use most frequently are my steak knives! :) Somewhere, long ago, I picked up a set of 4 of the #6 models. They work well for the intended purpose. The problem is only me and Momma are allowed to feed ourselves with them! :)

And about 15 years ago I ran into a knife seller/swindler (my fault, I submitted with a smile) named Jack Crider. He had a bunch of them he was selling off, so I passed a bunch of cash across the table toward him. One was well used (but you can't tell by looking at it). Its a short blade that doesn't seem to fit any factory standard grind. But someone along the way in West (by Gawd) Virginny took it to an engraver and had it scrached up. Not sure, but I think the name was Shaw Leibowicz or some such. When Jack had it, he was asking a fair price. So after a few gun shows and knife shows, I bought it. When his Missus returned from a potty break, she threw a fit. It was her apple pealin' knife! I offered to sell it back to him (at a fair profit for me) just to appease her. :)

And I've thrown my throwing knife at a tree or two (but with a back stop where I could find it if I missed.)

Less-see, I've never used my carving set. But I did give one away to a buddy for a wedding present. His wife still claims it was the best present they got. The buddy's uncle (Jimmy Garrett) worked at the Randall factory until his death. The buddy had an aluminum handle saltwater fisherman. A third yokel (an term of endearment here in the hills) went to a gunshow one time with us. There on a table was another Saltwater fisherman, with a $500 price tag. The buddy said "I've got one just like that at home!" The non-believer said "oh sure." Never question our sincerity. When we got home, the buddy marched him into the basment (drive-in style). Walked over to his toolbox and pulled out one of the bottom drawers (the large kind). In one smooth motion he turned it upside down on the basment floor and started sorting. Sure enough, within a few seconds he spotted the Randall and pulled it free of the screwdrivers, bolts, wire and stuff! :D It was a classic moment.

Oh, and not to be forgotten, both the buddy and I have Randall folders. Yep. Folding blade Randalls, the kind you've never seen before. Old man Randall felt a knife shouldn't fold. But back right after the old man passed away, the factory solicited some upscale folding knife builders for samples of what could be done. As the story goes (and I can't vouch for it) they sent a few blades to a small number of knife smiths. They got back some samples, but none were pleasing to them so they dropped the project. But some of the blades were later finished into spectacular versions. I'm guessing about 1993 or so... we ran into 2 of them for sale, so we made a "group buy" and picked the two up. Mine has some pretty old bark Ivory handles (scales?), the buddies has smooth Ivory with his sheltie scrimshawed on them! I've been meaning to carry it more often... :) They have open frame liner lock style design. Oh, and they cut steak real well, too.

Hmmm. And about that same time frame I picked up another Randall at a tiny backwoods gun show. It was a pretty casual affair. There might have been a dozen tables, total. I drove about 100 miles to get there and then walked the show in about 10 minutes. No guns of any interest, but in a glass cased display, looking like it had been shook up with the knives inside, I spotted a randall. A bit worse for wear, but I'm not all that particular. Worse, no one knew where the owner of the table had gone. So I hung out waiting. About a half hour later this jolly old guy came back in with a handful of McDonalds bags. He'd bought coffee for the crowd! Generosity is a thing here in Kentucky.

So when he got done distributing the cups around, I asked him if I could see a knife in his display. He laughed and said "Bet yer lookin' fer that old Randall". Yep. So he found the key after some searching and opened it up. As he handed it to me, he apologized and said he'd have to get a full $150 for it. I got a look on my face like I'd been stabbed in the heart. But I looked the knife over real well and finally paid him his price. It even had a name stamped/etched into the off side. Its "Ted Sackett". Never heard of him. But the knife is in with a bunch of others these days, and I don't have a sheath.

I took it to my knife consultant, Joe Gillenwater at the next big show. He looked it over, politely listened to my story, and suggested I'd been taken badly. But he'd help me out of my fix and let me double my money! What a guy. Of course I declined because he had a smile on his face. He said it was a 1960s grind trout and bird. It does fit in an old Buck sheath, so I carry it in that from time to time. It was sharpened a bunch by someone who didn't have a clue how it should be done. But I overlook that and keep it anyway.

Lets see, and I've got a Randall Kit knife with an ivory handle. Did you know Randall used to sell kit knives? Not to be confused with a kit gun, these actually came as a kit the buyer could finish himself. Mine was finished with a chunk of elephant tusk to hold on. The problem was the prior owner kept it in a safe with dessicant or a golden rod. It dried out the ivory an it cracked, stem to stern. The crack on the underside was so wide you could insert a business card. Ugly. But I swallowed any pride I still had and bought it. Took it to the gunroom in the old house and promptly forgot it. I asked my bride to please buy me some Johnson & Johnson baby oil. She forgot. Then when I came across it I looked at the knife in my musty and damp basement, and guess what? Just a little moisture in the air managed to swell the crack shut! You can still see the crack because it had been used and dirt got inside. So I was bad and washed it for about a half hour in warm water. I got some of the dirt worked out of the crack, but you can still see it. :(

OK, I'm tired of keying any Y'all are tired of readin'. I'll just go take a nap.


Dick-

I knew another airman who built a Model 1 from one if those kits. Eight-inch blade and black Micarta handle. Put it together and finished it in the base hobby shop. It looked as good as if Randall had done the work.

He wanted it in case a tiger got hold of him in Thailand, where he was being sent.

T-Star
 
Bob, you do realize this is a 14 Attack and not a 17 Astro?
Aha! I didn't look at the handle which is not bolted. However, the grind does not look like a '60s Solingen #14 so now I'm beginning to see why the dealer questioned it. Sure would like to see more pics and both sides of the sheath.

Bob
 
Aha! I didn't look at the handle which is not bolted. However, the grind does not look like a '60s Solingen #14 so now I'm beginning to see why the dealer questioned it. Sure would like to see more pics and both sides of the sheath.

Bob
Bob,
The grind is typical of early 14's starting with the tennite handles and the skull crusher tang. The next variation did not have the skull crusher, and the following one had Micarta handles on it like this one. I sent pictures of the knife to Randall who verified 2 things I knew. 1 the knife is legit, and 2 the dealer was a shyster. I confronted the dealer, and while he never admitted to trying to screw me he upped his offer considerably...still lowball. If I am not mistaken the 14 had this grind until the late 60's early 70's when it changed to the current configuration.
 
Mr. Burg, I'd love to see some pictures of those knives!

This one was used in WWII (not by me). It was given to me by a neighbor after her husband (the original owner) passed. Original Heiser sheath, and stone.

I took it camping a few times when I was a kid. Not real practical for cutting most stuff because the blade is so thick.

When I found out how valuable it was, it horrified me to think I actually took it camping. Didn't really use it for anything, just carried it around 'cause I thought it was cool. I might have cut up a chicken once. I was 16 or 17 and I guess it WAS cool. At least I didn't pull a Guy Clark and try to stick it in a tree!


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