NYC busts two legal gun owners

ChattanoogaPhil said:

I'm with ya, Mike, NY has lots of great areas, and it's not just all city either. My in-laws have a nice little farm in Syracuse. Though, the ones who need convincing that NY is a great place are the ones who live there.... they keep moving down here.



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Phil,

That photo could have been taken anywhere within a 5-10 minute drive from my house.

But, I'd have to say that that picture was probably not taken in Syracuse. It could have been taken somewhere in Onondaga County though...the County that Syracuse is in. Judging from the hills, I'm guessing possibly slightly south or southwest of Syracuse....South Onondaga, LaFayette, Marcellus, Camillus perhaps? If not there, my next guess would be east...Fabius/Pompey, or Cazenovia area maybe?

Regardless, that is a beautiful photo and hopefully will show some of the people here that New York State is not all "concrete jungle".

G-Mac said:

Phil,

That photo could have been taken anywhere within a 5-10 minute drive from my house.

But, I'd have to say that that picture was probably not taken in Syracuse. It could have been taken somewhere in Onondaga County though...the County that Syracuse is in. Judging from the hills, I'm guessing possibly slightly south or southwest of Syracuse....South Onondaga, LaFayette, Marcellus, Camillus perhaps? If not there, my next guess would be east...Fabius/Pompey, or Cazenovia area maybe?

Regardless, that is a beautiful photo and hopefully will show some of the people here that New York State is not all "concrete jungle".

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Thanks.

You obviously know the area. It's actually in Camillus. I just say Syracuse so folks have an idea where I'm talking about.

Yeah, a lot of folks think of only skyscrapers and narrow streets. When I was in trucking a lot of drivers would freak out if they were dispatched to NY.

ladder13 said:

Thank you Lefty. I for one am getting REAL tired of hearing from folks who probably never set foot anywhere in NY, did so 30 years ago, or heard from Auntie Em how bad the subways were.
I love the ones who bash NY yet cannot carry in a dozen or more other states because their CCL is not recognized there either. You never hear about that though. Gonna spend you money there too?
Btw, the cops in NY are the best anywhere, hands down.
Rant off...........for now.
You wanna continue? Bring it.

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With a couple of different non resident permits, it opens up a few states, but not NY. But as I said before a New York resident with a NY carry permit/ license can get a PA non resident LTCF and carry here.

I used to spend quite a bit of time around Addison and lived in Bath for a short spell. It is beautiful ground and great deer hunting, but the property taxes could bankrupt a person. I will not return because of the gun laws.

tripledipper said:

This one tops it all. A son retires from NYPD. He goes through all the necessary procedures. His guns remain in his work locker and he can not take them home. He is told it will take 3-6 months before the paperwork is approved for him to be allowed to carry again. Suppose he had just gotten a job requiring him to carry? He is as defenseless as any other citizen to protect his home or family. They really know how to treat their retirees.

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"A Son"...whose Son? I call B.S. on this one.

When you retire "honorably" after 20 or more years of service, you are given an opportunity before you "put in your papers" to apply and receive a NYC Carry Permit. The process is seamless and is very quickly completed. It does not take months, just a few days or so. This process has been in place for many decades to protect retiring officers and their family's from any potential retribution from criminals whom they have arrested during their careers. The NYPD police unions would not tolerate any less.

If your "Son" (or whomever Son this fellow is) was retiring to another state, he would have had the opportunity to lawfully transfer his weapons through a licensed federal firearms dealer to the state he was retiring to before he was retired. Firearms owned by retiring members of the force/department which are not authorized by a lawful permit or license are secured and stored by the Property Clerk, not left in their personal locker. Some guys, though few, do not excercise the privilege, which is their perogative. The weapons would remain in the Property Clerks possession until a lawful transfer could take place by presentation of a valid permit or lawful transfer by a duly licensed NYS State firearms dealer with a valid FFL. You may conclude that the NYPD treats their retirees badly based upon a B.S. story someone convinced you to believe. If your "Son" had some sort of problem before he retired, that might be the only exception. Otherwise, it's complete nonsense and you just joined the "let's bash NY bandwagon."

Lefty

5BeansintheWheel said:

With a couple of different non resident permits, it opens up a few states, but not NY. But as I said before a New York resident with a NY carry permit/ license can get a PA non resident LTCF and carry here.

I used to spend quite a bit of time around Addison and lived in Bath for a short spell. It is beautiful ground and great deer hunting, but the property taxes could bankrupt a person. I will not return because of the gun laws.

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Don't return, do as you please.

South Carolina does not recognize my license nor most other state licenses, and no non-resident licenses. Doesn't stop me from going there, I like Myrtle Beach and Charleston areas. I even spend money in SC, though they won't allow me to carry. I just leave my guns home, actually pretty simple. Last 3 years I've driven all the way to Orlando and left my guns home every time.

handejector said:

I have to disagree.
Note the law reads:
"and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle."

As I recall, in Illinois, possession of ammo without an Illinois FOID card is a violation, even with no gun.

Lock BOTH guns and ammo in separate containers.

This is an interesting thread.
A federal law guarantees a right, but The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit rules it did not apply.
Hmmmm, why am I not surprised?

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Lee,

I have to agree with you. I skipped straight to the part for vehicles with no separate passenger compartment, which contradicts the part you quoted. Gotta love it. This is why Caj is so rich.

Thanks for setting me straight.

Herk

oldflatfoot said:

Another "Bash NYC-NY" thread, huh? Judging by some of the remarkably off topic comments disparaging allot of good people who are gun owners, gun rights activists and Second Amendment supporters, who happen by choice or circumstance to live in one place or another, is a cheap shot.


Lefty

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Mike/Lefty/OIF2/anybody else,

Please quote one thing I said that qualifies as bashing.

BTW, if any of you want to help the guy who asked about transiting NY with a long gun and a revolver, that would be very nice of you.

Cheers,
Herk

ladder13 said:

Don't return, do as you please.

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Yes, or as we New Yorkers like to say...

"Don't let the door hit you in the *** on the way out!"

"Don't let the door hit you in the *** on the way out!"

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Good note to end this thread on.