red dot for M&P AR 15 22 cal

Another one for the Bushnell TRS-25. Midway has them in stock free shipping for like $85.00. Or walmart has them for $108.00 out the door. The best thing about these are the battery life. There's some guy who claims to have had his on for months now and the battery is still good. I've got one on my Troy Ar-15 and just put one on my 15-22 tonight. You can get the UTG Riser mounts off amazon for about $6.00.
 
Edensnuthouse, I too shoot a lot of Steel Challenge and tactical matches and found that I perfer this sort of dot sight.
TruGlo Open Red-Dot Sight Red/Green Illuminated Multi-Reticle Matte Black TG8360B FREE S&H TG8360B. TruGlo Red Dot Sights.
Our style of competition requires us to be able to see a large field of view because we need to see our next target while we are still shooting at the first one. The tube style of scope for range shooting is ok, but looking thru a tube will make you concentrate on that one target, then your going to have to look for the next one again thru the tube.
When you look thru this one, you dont even notice the black ring holding the glass. All you see are multiple targets with a dot.
I like the green dot in bright sunlight because the red sometimes gets washed out. When I had just the red, when the timer started, sometimes I had to search for the red. The green just pops out at you! When speed is king, time is money.
Hope this helps.
 
Hopefully the Sightmark I ordered (Ultra Dual Shot Pro Spec NV Sight QD) will work like your TruGlo. It will have to do until I can afford an EoTech.

(Ordered a new Kimber Rimfire Target the other day, it should arrive soon. My checkbook needs a rest!)
 
I just used the TruGlow as an example. There are many company's selling the same sight under different names. They are all made in China. Do an search for red dots, I bought my latest one off Amazon, cost me , I think $28 and that included shipping.
 
"some guy" is me. My TRS25 has been on level 4 since last August with no loss of brightness. I wish that all of my devices had such excellent battery longevity!

My T1 has been on for 1 1/2 years now...costs a bit more than the TRS-25 tho:rolleyes:

I just put a new TRS-25 from Primary Arms with the free UTG absolute co witness quick detach risor on my new 15-22. Still the same crisp dot as my older ones.
 
Have a real nice Nikon red dot with variable brightness and variable MOA. Replaced it with a Nikon P-22 scope for shooting 50 yds. Old eyes and it's nice to see the target at 50 yds. The red is great but I don't have a spotting scope so i could see how I was shooting. If you are shooting steel it's the greatest thing for quick acquisition. I'm shooting tennis and golf balls at 50 yds and the red dot isn't quite good enough for those targets.
 

Lol... bought this scope for my 15-22 on Amazon for $37 and absolutely love the thing. Well-built, red/green dot have brightness controls and it's pretty easy to adjust the MOA. To quote my son after I got it dead on zeroed at 50 yards- "Dad, it takes the challenge out of it... it's like a video game now."
 
When it comes to Steel Challenge forget all this tactical c**p. It means nothing and will slow you down. Co-witness? NOT! Tactical red dot? NOT!
There is the C-More Railway for those that can handle $200 for a sight and one or two others that work fairly well for less like the TruGlo Dual Red/Green Reflex sight ($65) or a Pentax HS20 ($55). Unless you have a lot of experience using a particular sight that is comfortable to use that you use on other firearms, use something that will force you to develop both-eyes open shooting skills if you can't do that now. That means an open reflex red dot not a tube type red dot.
Most of my action pistols have C-Mores on them. Both my 15-22s have something else, but they are reflex sights that are plenty bright enough for daylight use. And make sure you mount them at the far end of the receiver rail from your eye. This will help to shoot both eyes open so you can see the next target outside of the sight picture.
 
use something that will force you to develop both-eyes open shooting skills if you can't do that now. That means an open reflex red dot not a tube type red dot.
....This will help to shoot both eyes open so you can see the next target outside of the sight picture.

What sort of tube type dots have you been using? All of the ones I have used are meant to be shot with both eyes open. That is part of the whole point of a red dot sight.

I've used Aimpoint Comp's, M4's, H-1's. I've used knock off Aimpoint H-1's. I've used TASCO brand 30mm tube red dots, I've used Hawke tube style red dots. I've used ACOG style sights, I've used open reflex ones like the C-mor, I've used cheapy ones like the NC Star sights, I've used Eotech's all the way back to the Bushnell Holo sight.

Two eyes is how they are meant to be. I don't understand how the tube type is different.

There may be less peripheral clutter on some of the Reflex types, but not all.

KBK
 
If you shoot a lot of Bullseye, with long red dot tube sights like the Ultradot MatchDot or Burris SpeedDot 135 you tend to gravitate to a single eye even if both are open.
Many people mistakenly mount tube type red dots too close to the eye because they are used to scopes. This prevents the proper use of both eyes. With a reflex sight, even if you mount it too close, the thin rim generally fools your eye into thinking it is more like a window than a scope. So people tend to use both eyes open even when they try not to. It is a good training aid. There are plenty of top shooters that have no problem using tube red dots with both eyes open. My friend BJ Norris is a good example. He uses Aimpoint Micros for everything, pistols, rifles, you name it. He likes the way they work for him so he mounts them on every firearm he is allowed to by the rules. He might be faster on the rifle with a C-More but there are muscle memory advantages to looking thru the same model of sight regardless of the competition.
I also sometimes use a 40mm tube version of the TruGlo Dual Red/Green red dot. I used it for over a year in Ruger Rimfire and Steel Challenge rifle stages. It works fine for me. However the stock 3 MOA dot is a little smaller than I like. Except at small targets where it comes into its own. But I generally find I shoot faster with the low peripheral clutter of reflex sights. I am measurably faster with that kind of sight in fact. Just like I am measurably faster with a Geissele S3G vs the RRA NM trigger. And considering I am 65 YO I need every speed enhancement I can get competing against much younger shooters.
Oh by the way on Jerry's exhibition 15-22, the reason why the trigger is gold is because his favorite AR trigger is the AT AR15 Gold trigger, the same one he uses in his 3-gun S&W AR-15.
 
If you shoot a lot of Bullseye, with long red dot tube sights like the Ultradot MatchDot or Burris SpeedDot 135 you tend to gravitate to a single eye even if both are open..

Ah ok. I have never used either of those. Thanks for clearing that up.

KBK
 
Bushnell trs-25 w/riser. I have MBUIS flip up sight that are 1/3rd co=witnessed and love it. Out the door at Wal-Mart $109.
 
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