Has anyone turn their 15-22 pistol into a SBR?

Rob1 · Jan 17, 2015

Might I ask, what I believe to be a reasonable question, coming from a country where pistols and gas operated firearms are banned and where everything else is very tightly controlled.

As you guys are able to purchase and own, pretty much Any Hand gun (Pistol) or Rifle as you may want/like/desire.

Why would you want to change a Hand gun (Pistol in this case ) in to a Rifle ?

Why not be happy to own it for what it is?

Alright, I know that was 2 questions....

I don't want to offend anyone. Just can't grasp why make it something it's not when you can have both, already purpose built and risk a whole heap of trouble in the process.

Just asking

Rob.

Sits back now and awaits the incoming flak for being an uneducated Brit.

tbgunner88 · Jan 17, 2015

Rob1 said:
Might I ask, what I believe to be a reasonable question, coming from a country where pistols and gas operated firearms are banned and where everything else is very tightly controlled.

As you guys are able to purchase and own, pretty much Any Hand gun (Pistol) or Rifle as you may want/like/desire.

Why would you want to change a Hand gun (Pistol in this case ) in to a Rifle ?

Why not be happy to own it for what it is?

Alright, I know that was 2 questions....

I don't want to offend anyone. Just can't grasp why make it something it's not when you can have both, already purpose built and risk a whole heap of trouble in the process.

Just asking

Rob.

Sits back now and awaits the incoming flak for being an uneducated Brit.

That's the reson for the debate. If we keep sitting back and let things like this slide, we will be in the same position you are in one day. At least that's how some of us see it.

DCP · Jan 17, 2015

tbgunner88 said:
When you say we you sound like you are siding with the ATF. Personally I have no use for the sig brace, but I don't agree with any law that brings new restrictions to gun owners and tramples out rights even further. The same goes for open carry laws, just because I don't see a need for open carry, doesn't mean that I think a law should tell others in some parts that they can't. We need to see the big picture here and realize we are all on the same side as gun owners and realize if we give an inch (even something like the sig brace being fired from the shoulder) that they will take a mile.

Amen to this

Dirty*Harry · Jan 17, 2015

I guess this thread is shot LOL!!

RedNeck Jim · Jan 17, 2015

tbgunner88 said:
When you say we you sound like you are siding with the ATF.

No, I think their rules & opinions are idiotic & lack logic. However, that being said, as a law abiding citizen, I believe it important to follow our statutes until changed lawfully.

I dislike folks that use loopholes to avoid doing what I have to do. No different than all the huge corporations paying less tax than my tiny business. Right is right. Wrong is wrong.

If you don't like a law... change it. Until then... follow it.

imashooter2 · Jan 17, 2015

The problem with issues like this is that you and your lawyer get to argue about it with the limitless taxpayer funded resources of the BATFE at $400 an hour.

tbgunner88 · Jan 17, 2015

Dirty*Harry said:
I guess this thread is shot LOL!!

I apologize to you as the op for this thread turning into a debate. By the way, I saw your other thread on the 15-22 pistol and you defiantly got a steal on it, I would pick 2 up at that price, hope you enjoy it.

tbgunner88 · Jan 17, 2015

To the people talking about changing laws, the real fight for change in this country won't happen with lawyers and won't take place in a courtroom. That's another story and I didn't mean to offend anybody, I'm just passionate about our gun rights.

HRArms · Jan 17, 2015

Rob1 said:
Might I ask, what I believe to be a reasonable question, coming from a country where pistols and gas operated firearms are banned and where everything else is very tightly controlled.

As you guys are able to purchase and own, pretty much Any Hand gun (Pistol) or Rifle as you may want/like/desire.

Why would you want to change a Hand gun (Pistol in this case ) in to a Rifle ?

Why not be happy to own it for what it is?

I'll add I have 2 SBR stamped lowers. I had a pistol buffer on one while I was collecting parts for the uppers so I would be complying with the silly "intent" laws.

Alright, I know that was 2 questions....

I don't want to offend anyone. Just can't grasp why make it something it's not when you can have both, already purpose built and risk a whole heap of trouble in the process.

Just asking

Rob.

Sits back now and awaits the incoming flak for being an uneducated Brit.

The real question is why does it matter how a gun is fired. It does the same thing whether it is fired by 1 hand, 2 hands, shouldered, ect, and why does method of firing make certain lengths of barrels illegal?

Silly illogical confusing gun laws are not created make us safe, but to give the government every opportunity to make you an unknowing criminal.

HRArms · Jan 17, 2015

I have also heard from my ATF friends that there are rumblings that there is pressure from the Obama administration that the bumpfire stocks are next to be re-evaluated.

Same friends who told me last year about the sig brace being re-evaluated.

Rob1 · Jan 17, 2015

Not sure what's happened here HR.

My post didn't have the paragraph about 2 SBRs. I live in UK so that's not something that is relevant to me. Must have come in from another response.

Rob.

Brett248Vista · Jan 17, 2015

Dirty*Harry said:
I guess this thread is shot LOL!!

Sorry Harry

DCP · Jan 17, 2015

Just got to love Jerry and its legal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7G-sOC3-sQ

Rob1 · Jan 17, 2015

DCP said:
Just got to love Jerry and its legal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7G-sOC3-sQ

Ok. So in my earlier post I asked why change one thing in to something else.

Having just watched that little vid

I think I kinda get it.

DCP you is a madman. That looked like sooooo much fun!!

I think if you can do that with two centre fire then a pair of 22 would just be insane fun.

Impressive hits by the way.

Rob.

Overpaid Union Thug · Jan 17, 2015

If you give the gun grabbers an inch they won't just take an inch or even a mile. They will eventually take ALL of your guns. Just ask people in other countries. It starts with one restriction. Then another....then another....then before you know it we are Europe. I attribute entities such as the ATF, IRS, and the likes to the ever expanding and overreaching government we have. But that's another issue for another forum.

The Sig Brace issue probably isn't over. A true Second Amendment advocate with big cojones, a fat bank account, and a good attorney could probably defeat the ATF on their reversal. Like I said earlier....I don't want a Sig Brace but the principal of the whole thing should piss any pro Second Amendment/Constitution American off.

mcpilot · Jan 17, 2015

It's so very easy to get a form 1 now days. Efile a trust get the stamp in 30 days and the questions go away! The Feds love collecting $200 for a stamp. I think it's cheap considering the fun you get in return. Win win

Overpaid Union Thug · Jan 18, 2015

mcpilot said:
It's so very easy to get a form 1 now days. Efile a trust get the stamp in 30 days and the questions go away! The Feds love collecting $200 for a stamp. I think it's cheap considering the fun you get in return. Win win

The guy at the gun store I bought my lower from said something about getting a stamp in as little as 30 days. I didn't believe it. He was with another customer and the guy helping me didn't know much about it so he tried to give me allot of information about it as he could without making his customer feel neglected. It was information overload for me so I googled it when I got home. What he didn't mention was the eFile. Apparently it's now taking 4-6 weeks for the approval if you use a trust and eFile.

DCP · Jan 18, 2015

Overpaid Union Thug said:
The guy at the gun store I bought my lower from said something about getting a stamp in as little as 30 days. I didn't believe it. He was with another customer and the guy helping me didn't know much about it so he tried to give me allot of information about it as he could without making his customer feel neglected. It was information overload for me so I googled it when I got home. What he didn't mention was the eFile. Apparently it's now taking 4-6 weeks for the approval if you use a trust and eFile.

Well that's just wonderful. (BUT) Only if your State allows you to have a SBR will it work. Not all States are the same. So If someone says you can or can't do something you need to check what the law is for your state Most people maybe trying to help but they don't know YOUR state laws.

GhostMutt · Jan 18, 2015

Id love to spend a day with Jerry, watching him (and Noir's review) with the 15-22 was what finally twisted my arm into getting one....A world record holder he seems like a great teacher and an all round general good guy. Always seems like he's having such fun

tbgunner88 · Jan 18, 2015

Overpaid Union Thug said:
The guy at the gun store I bought my lower from said something about getting a stamp in as little as 30 days. I didn't believe it. He was with another customer and the guy helping me didn't know much about it so he tried to give me allot of information about it as he could without making his customer feel neglected. It was information overload for me so I googled it when I got home. What he didn't mention was the eFile. Apparently it's now taking 4-6 weeks for the approval if you use a trust and eFile.

Redneckjim could probably answer the turn around time. I've saw some post in the past of his 15-22 sbr, so he has obviously been through the process.

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