Red Dot for Sport

My AR is also designated as go-to. Aimpoint H1.

I've also got two Primary Arms MicroDots on .22s. One is on an M&P 15-22. Perfect combo for a trainer.

I have a spare Primary Arms MicroDot. I intend to mount it to my range toy AK-47.

I will also state that whenever I went to buy this-or-that "good as" optic, Phil always counseled me to buy an Aimpoint or EoTech. If I had taken Phil's advice, I'd have been better off.
 
Japes is so right.

On Forums there is a never ending stream of issues...

It doesn't fit right on the receiver, can't fit rear sight, the riser is too short, too tall, too long, quick release doesn't work right, too much parallax.. on and on and on. I suppose all these things are good learning experiences but they are not money saving exercises. ;)
 
I am SO glad I took his advise! I shot open sights for months until l saved up for a Pro and found one on sale. By the way, very accurate rifle with open sites. Much easier with the Pro though.

Buy once cry once I guess.
 
If you buy an EoTech or Aimpoint, who says it will stay on your 15-Sport? A quality optic is always a quality optic.

This right here.
I have also heard some people with the theory that your optic should cost as much or more than your firearms so you're fine wither you keep it on your sport or not. And I'm sure over time, you'll throw "upgrades" on your sport as well.
 
I don't normally subscribe to the "buy once cry once" philosophy when it comes to most firearms (there are exceptions). The AR-15 is a prime example. IMO as long as the rifle's component parts meet a minimum of mil-spec standards (civilians have the flexibility to go above and beyond) the practical difference is in the skill, care, and attention to detail of the company assembling the rifle. I've seen real world evidence to back up my opinions. I've seen rifles assembled from top-tier components that shoot horribly due to improper assembly. I've seen rifles using good, not expensive, parts that shoot better than the total build cost would imply (ex: M&P 15-Sport). The difference is proper assembly. Marketing departments drive customer perceptions and the perception of exponential differences the higher you go up the pricing ladder.

I've learned via the long and expensive route that Optics truly belong to the "buy once cry once" category. There is absolutely no cheating with Optics. Buy one single EoTech, AimPoint, Trijicon, or if your bank-roll is large a Raytheon Specter series optic, and you won't go back. It's one of those things you have to experience for yourself to understand.

If it requires you to delay gratification and save up $$$, do it. It's well worth the wait. You can also buy during the opportune times of the year where there are factory incentives, retail outlet sales, and coupons you can apply.

I don't remember exactly what I paid for my EoTech 512.A65. I bought it using:

  • Accumulated rewards points
  • Retailer discount coupon
  • During a sale event
  • Used gift cards purchased for less than face value.

On top of that, I purchased when EoTech offered a $60(?) mail in rebate. I think that usually occurs closer to the holidays.
 
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I don't normally subscribe to the "buy once cry once" philosophy when it comes to most firearms (there are exceptions).
I am the complete opposite. Through the experience of spending far too much, I've learned that it's better to spend a little extra than not enough.

Optics are the best example. I bought an EOTech 556.A65 which is a fantastic optic. It took me a while, but I came to the realization that it wasn't for me. I listed it for $450 and sold it the same day. Try to do that with a cheap optic. You'll be lucky to sell it at all and certainly not for close to what you paid for it.

While JaPes is right that some guns are very good due to the design, there is much to be said about build quality. I believe him when he said he's seen high dollar rifles that shot terribly because they were put together poorly. However, the same goes for low dollar rifles. They are slapped together with minimum effort. You are much more likely to have build issues with a cheap product than a more expensive one.

Of course, not all is determined by price alone. There are many inexpensive things that are high quality. You have to do your research.
 
Here's how it works...

Try to save a few bucks and buy a whiz-bang Redfield Counterstrike. Put a couple hundred rounds down the pipe to find out it don't work, can't even use the laser cuz the front sight is blocking it... genius engineering at work. Return it and hope to get money back. Next buy a 'just as good' Vortex SPARC. Put another couple hundred rounds down the pipe to find out it don't work... way too much parallax. Return it and hope to get money back. Then buy a Primary Arms ADS for $200 and another couple hundred round down the pipe. Not an Aimpoint but it's ok pretty much.

600rds - $175
gas - $20
Time and frustration - Priceless
Get in accident returning the second optic - $500 Ins deductable
PA - ADS - $200

Save money... get the Aimpoint to begin with. :D
 
Though not a true red dot, check out the Primary arms 2.5x compact scope. its etched so you dont need batteries but is also illuminated. The reticle is great also. Allows for very quick target acqusition and also a more precise dot as well. Great company and great product. I love mine :D
Just another option to throw out there. Good luck
 
Went with the Lucid HD7 on a recommendation. Designed by a small US company in Wyoming and built in China to keep the price reasonable. It's cast aluminum, waterproof and runs on a common AAA battery. It has a Picatinny mount and 4 reticles. Lifetime warranty and paid $199. I'm very happy with the quality and the price. Optics are crystal clear.
 

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