Beretta 92fs vs Taurus PT92 af

Back when I was broke all the time, my competition gun was a taurus 99. Not a bad pistol, and cocked and locked was nice. I no longer have one. I have several Berettas and like them very much, but if you are on a tight budget the Taurus doesnt suck. Heck even the late great Stephen Camp liked the Taurus. Mine never failed on me, but during the mag ban it was easier for me to find standard capacity beretta mags, so I switched.
 
Hey Okie21, apparently some are offended by the word, knock off or copy pertaining to a comparison of the Taurus PT92 and the Beretta 92 model. It wasn’t an ignorant statement, it was simple math. The Beretta 92 was designed in Italy in 1972. Production began in May 1976. Even the short lived Compact 92SB was manufactured for 10 years, 1981-1991. The Taurus PT92 manufactured in Brazil, which has design elements of the original Beretta 92 began production in 1983. Mathematics proves the Beretta 92 was born and disturbuted before the Taurus clone model. Not a big deal, just a fact. Look it up.
 
I figure Beretta didn't have a problem with Taurus making the PT92 then I will not have a problem owning one for less than half the price of the Beretta 92fs.

As far as resale holding value I believe I have a much better chance of getting what I paid for or close to it for my Taurus than what I could get resale for a $700 Beretta. I am more into owning quality products than being a fan boy of a name and paying hundreds more for basically the same product. Okay lets call the Taurus a clone but the quality was cloned also. Funny how the internet is not loaded with owners of the Taurus PT 92 trashing it as a piece of junk. Quite the contrary from what I have read.
 
While working at an LGS a few years back, picked up a traded-in Taurus PT92 for <$200. (it's either SS or satin nickel, not sure which) I'm no Taurus fan, nor am I a fan of the design often called 'the world's largest 9mm'. But, a friend and I were teaching alot of CC classes and we needed a 'loaner' 9mm. I really didn't want to supply one of my own favored pistols, so figured we'd try this.

To say it did well would be an understatement. Many thousands of rounds through it and many dozens of students used that Taurus to excellent effect. Never a problem, which we greatly appreciated. Malfunctions at a teaching range take time and make for long days.

Not instructing anymore, but have enough faith in this gun that it resides in the bedroom, filled with Win. Ranger 127 gr. +P+ JHP's in it.
 
Never owned a Taurus but do own a 1985 Beretta 92F. This one was made in Italy. (At that time Beretta was not making them in U.S.) It is hard to imagine a smoother, well crafted semi-automatic pistol than this one. Unbelievable. If you can find an older Model 92 made in Italy I recommend getting it. I paid less than $500 for this one at an auction 3 years ago. Well worth the price I paid.
 

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I own a few Berettas and the stainless INOX 92 serves as my EDC. The Beretta features superior quality over the Taurus in every aspect. The PT92 is the Taurus that sucks the least, but that's a pretty low hurdle to jump over. Beretta parts are of superior manufacture, especially magazines, with the Taurus mags being noticeably inferior. Tauris guns are the ones you buy when you can't afford decent ones.

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I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Taurus, even if I already owned a 92FS. Their 92 is a design they have made for 30+ years - I'm pretty sure they worked out the kinks.

The main reason to buy the Taurus is the safety - the frame mounted safety is a huge appeal IMO. I would buy one in a second if it was $250.

$325 used seems high, though. Bud's has them for $397, they ship for free but then you'd have a transfer fee. So ~$420 total. Used for $320 is right around $100 off, which is a fair price, but not a good deal.
 
You might first see where repairs can be made on the weapon.

I live in Reno and my only option was their Florida shop for repair of a broken magazine release.
This little minor part took 85 days......... before I got the PT92 stainless back.

If it breaks down again, I will sell it..... since they refuse to have a West Coast repair shop of any kind to shorten the down time, w/o a weapon.
 
Well, I enjoyed the banter between those that say get the real thing and those that say get the knock-off. Unfortunately, an unforseen legal expense has come up. So there won't be another gun purchase in the near future. Divorce is expensive!!!!

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Well, I enjoyed the banter between those that say get the real thing and those that say get the knock-off. Unfortunately, an unforseen legal expense has come up. So there won't be another gun purchase in the near future. Divorce is expensive!!!!

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Divorce is expensive for a reason. It’s worth it! (3 times for me). [emoji50]


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I like the Beretta. I’ve handled the Taurus and it’s probably the best model Taurus offers.

The new Berettas have the 3rd generation locking blocks. I prefer the Beretta, only because it’s been tested so rigorously by .gov

M9 will go 19,090 rounds before a malfunction.
 

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Well, I enjoyed the banter between those that say get the real thing and those that say get the knock-off. Unfortunately, an unforseen legal expense has come up. So there won't be another gun purchase in the near future. Divorce is expensive!!!!

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Ouch. Sorry to hear that.
 
I think the PT92 is the best gun Taurus has ever made, because it is a Beretta clone. For someone who is on a budget it is a good gun I suppose.

But the Beretta is a Beretta. Despite what some internet commandos might say, the 92/M9 is one of the most tested and trusted service pistols ever made. It is truly a world class handgun, especially for the price.

Also, I remember when the 92FS and the Sig P226 were roughly the same price new. Now they charge much more for a base model P226, and the Beretta is still reasonably priced. I love them both, but will take the Italian any day.
 
Agree, between those, the P226 will be the right choice
 
Never figured out why Barretta made such a heavy boat anchor for a 9mm?
 
The new Berettas have the 3rd generation locking blocks. I prefer the Beretta, only because it’s been tested so rigorously by .gov

M9 will go 19,090 rounds before a malfunction.

I agree. Numerous SEALs bounced Beretta slides off their face, usually with well under 10,000 rounds. Negligence was ruining the careers of talented and expensive special operations personnel. Guess what unit dropped those same faulty Berettas for the second place OEM?

The US Government paid massive additional costs to get Beretta’s design and US manufacturing to an acceptable level. If it wasn’t for the influence of a certain Maryland legislator who had the newly established Beretta plant, the Army and likely all of DOD could have avoided funding new locking blocks in the M9.

It was 30 years ago and Beretta retrofitted all the production, but their products have been suspect in my eyes. If you cannot get your biggest, most high profile contract correct, then I have worried about the Italian focus on quality control.

Based on my US Army experience, the Beretta’s outdated manual of arms and huge hand dimensions make it a liability. Nearly every military task that actually needed pistols switched to something else over the M9 Beretta - SIG M10s for Investigators and aircrew, Glock 19s for special operations and aircrew and SIGs for Coast Guard maritime security missions.

On topic, I have had one Taurus 85 revolver that has been flawless. I have no faith that would hold for all Tauri.
 
Plus it was never meant to be concealed either. It was actually designed for your basement level grunt.
 
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