Extremely Rare .38/44 HD Target Revolver.

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S&W .38/44 Heavy Duty Target #35644 - 5" Barrel
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Deputy W.A. Grear's S&W .38/44 HD Target Revolver.


There was a rumor swirling around the little police department of Rocky River, Ohio: Smith & Wesson might offer a new revolver!
Prodded by his men, Chief Gundar Robertson went straight to the source.


On January 3, 1930 he wrote to Smith & Wesson:

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By prompt reply came the news. Smith & Wesson had plans for the revolver that would become known as the .38/44 Heavy Duty!

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A few months later came a further inquiry. Could one of these new .38/44 revolvers be had with target sights?

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Yes! But it will cost an extra $12.10.

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Cost be damned! Gotta have it. The .38/44 HD Target revolver is ordered.

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Well dang! It didn't turn out just exactly the way I wanted it!

By now Chief Robertson has gotten tired of being the go-between. His disappointed deputy is put directly in touch with Smith & Wesson to iron out his problem with the front sight originally installed.

W.A. Grear was a handyman. He removed the original front sight and returned it with his letter. He wanted to exchange it for a "thin patridge sight"

No problem if it is a little high. Grear planned to shape it to his satisfaction. And he obviously did!

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Smith & Wesson kindly complies.

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Finally, the paperwork is done. The Patridge sight is installed and shaped to the satisfaction of Deputy Grear.

At some time in its history it acquired a humpback hammer - probably at the hand of the versatile Deputy Grear.

So let's see this fantastic revolver!

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I hope you have enjoyed this bit of Smith & Wesson history.

Curl
 
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Curl, Thanks for sharing all of the information concerning the special order revolver. It is very interesting to read about it's history. Question; is it because the adjustable sights were a special order that the serial number was marked on the bottom of the rear sight? Maybe that is common and I have just not heard or seen it before. Thanks and enjoy the revolver!
 
Curl, Thanks for sharing all of the information concerning the special order revolver. It is very interesting to read about it's history. Question; is it because the adjustable sights were a special order that the serial number was marked on the bottom of the rear sight? Maybe that is common and I have just not heard or seen it before. Thanks and enjoy the revolver!

I have a rare special order target 1917 that was fitted with target sights at the factory. The sight is numbered to the gun. Commercial 1917 Target - letter confirmed, post #13 - SWHF docs, post #15
 
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Interesting that he asked for a rounded thin front sight for his target gun.

Did S&W ever do that back then? Seems the rear sight blade would then be extra wide with light on either side.

I assume he wanted that blade so he could still use his existing holster?
 
Thank you for the time and effort you put into sharing all this fascinating information! That's a very special revolver indeed.

The exchange of letters offers a peek into life and times in 1930.

1. A letter was sent Friday, January 3, 1930, and S&W had received it and typed up an answer Monday, January 6! Perhaps sales were off drastically due to the stock market crash of '29. But hats off to the Post Office back then getting a letter from Rocky River Ohio (west of Cleveland) to Springfield, MA in three days, especially when two of the days were Saturday and Sunday!

2. I never would have thought that the N-Frame HD would cost only $2.93 more than the K-Frame M&P, even in 1930s dollars. A special introductory price?

3. The under barrel shroud was referenced as a "sheath" in the letter. I have not heard that term for it before.

Enough rambling, but very, very interesting provenance with that fine HD. Or is it a pre-Outdoorsman? :D
 
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Curl and I corresponded on this gun several times as he was wondering if he could win it in an auction. He did and once I saw the pics I knew it was correct except for the hammer. This is one of 4 that I know of between the first HD serial number and the first serial number of the Outdoorsman. There were many that were sent back to the factory to be converted to a target gun but not many are known to have left the factory that way. Roy called mine a ".38/44 Police Target". Actually, the factory gave them the Police discount and added the cost of the work and parts to make it a target model. I had not heard of the barrel lug being called a sheath either. Great gun!
Bill
 
What a great gun and even better write-up!
I'd love to see the best of such posts collected, printed and sold in book form!

Interesting thing about that gun, as a result of requesting the custom work, he ended up with the rear sight that lacked the lock screw typically seen on pre-war Outdoorsman revolvers.
But, the deputy did a decent job fitting the front sight!

Jim
 
Interesting, he sent them $41.50 but it is on the records at $37.73.
AWRIGHT, where'd the $3.77 go?

Obviously the difference in money went towards potatoes, gravy and other "fixins" for the "partridge" that the chief originally ordered and then when the deputy corrected the chief by specifying a patridge, S & W was stuck with the "bird in hand" after removing it from the barrel.:D

What a terrific post...this is exactly why I also joined the SWHF on the off chance that some obscure documents might just show up one day on one of my treasures.

Thanks for the post....it is just amazing.
 
It has given me great pleasure to receive your kind comments on this interesting revolver. Thanks to everybody.

I had an exciting time acquiring this gun back in the spring. Yes, you do spot a unicorn on rare occasions.

Here's the story:

Back in February I was browsing a relatively obscure auction house online when my eye caught the profile of this gun. A light immediately went off in my mind as I thought to myself, "Wow, there's a 5" Outdoorsman. That's got to be a bit rare."

Here's a verbatim quote of the item description in the auction listing (not much info):

Pre-War Smith & Wesson .38/44 Heavy Duty Double Action Revolver, #35644, .38/44 cal., 5'' pinned barrel, blue finish, factory checkered square butt diamond center walnut grips with inlaid silver medallions numbered to the gun, Patridge front sight, notched rear sight, case hardened hammer and serrated trigger. Mfg'd 1930. Condition is very good retaining approx. 90% factory blue, with areas of finish loss to both sides of frame and index line to cylinder. Grips with moderate wear and bright medallions. Hammer and trigger with vivid case colors. Action is good, bore is bright.​



Here are some of the thoughts and observations then going through my head and some of the research I did:
* s/n is 35644 - too low for an Outdoorsman (if you believe SCSW);
* no serrations on front and back straps;
* early "one-screw" target rear sight (but I didn't at that time know the date that separates the one-screw and the two-screw sights.)

So I go to the SCSW 4th to rummage for information. For a number of reasons it doesn't classify as an Outdoorsman, so I figure it must be a .38/44 HD.

In the listing for the .38/44 HD under "Variations" it mentions the reported existence of the ".38/44 Police Target Model" made by special order in 1930. "The one reported was in the 351xx s/n range." This variation is described as having a Call gold bead front sight. The front sight on this specific revolver looks Bubba'd and certainly could have started life as a Call gold bead.

Information I had at that time indicated the engineering order for serrated tangs on N frame Target Models dated to 10/17/27. Thus, that engineering order pre-dates the .38/44 HD. If S&W had cataloged a .38/44 HD Target, I would assume it would have had serrated tangs. However, it seems conceivable that a batch of special order ".38/44 Police Target Models" might start life as ordinary .38/44 HDs with smooth tangs.

The HBH didn't look right. My info indicated the HBH was introduced in 1938, much later.

It could be a later factory conversion to Target configuration, but that raises the question of dating the one-screw target rear sight.

The auction listing said nothing about matching numbers or re-work stamps, except that it did say that the grips match. I could see from the photos there is no star on the butt.


At this point I had gone about as far as I could go in researching the revolver. I decided to reach out for some help. That's where the wonderful resources of this forum come into play. I contacted Lee Jarrett (our very own gorilla). I told him everything I've mentioned above and asked what he thought it might be. Lee told me to contact our member, 1Aspenhill (Bill), who is an expert on the .38/44 HD revolvers.

Bill was completely generous with his knowledge and time. We had a great time plotting and scheming ahead of the auction. He gave me the confidence I needed to bid on the revolver with the intention of getting it. See Bill's post (#13 above).

The day of the auction came. I took a deep breath and typed in a bid. The HD became mine! (Bill said I stole it.)

In due course I gathered up a factory letter and the research from the SWHF. Then came the task of deciding how to handle the thing.

The front sight obviously had been altered. The factory letter said it originally had a Paine front sight, and now it has a Bubba'd patridge. Should I find a Paine sight and restore the revolver back to "factory" configuration? Heck no!

When I got the research from SWHF and saw Deputy Grear's letter of June 11, 1930 I knew for sure I wasn't going to mess with that front sight.

Grear was entirely dissatisfied with the factory front sight.
"This sight is absolutely no good to me and I am sending it in to you."​

He planned to fit the patridge sight himself, and that's what he did.

"I would certainly appreciate it if you would send me, in place of it, a thin patridge sight. This may be a little high but send one to fit the 44 frame and I will take care of cutting it down."​

The man knew what he wanted when he sent for this special order pistol. He didn't like what he got, and he was determined to have it the way he wanted it. How in the world could I consider changing that?

The HBH came years later. Though there is no evidence of it, I would lay a bet it was the same Mr. Grear, who learning of this new improved hammer, had to have one and ordered it up.

We often say how wonderful it would be if these old guns could talk, so we could know their stories. Well, this one has done some talking. It's a piece of history with a soul of its own.

I'm proud to share this with the members here. I hope each of you feels as satisfied as I, having heard this HD speak to us from the year 1930.

Curl
 
Another observation I find interesting: The Smith & Wesson letter of January 6, 1930 must be one of the earliest announcements of Smith & Wesson's intention to introduce the .38/44 HD. By its wording it is obvious that the HD was not yet in production. They were "proposing to manufacture" it. The description was of how the "new gun will be made. . ."

It's almost like being there at the time.

Curl
 
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