Who carries a blackjack?

Let’s see the primary EDC gun, the back up EDC gun, primary EDC Bowie knife, back up folding knife, combat load of ammunition, and now a assortment of clubbing type instruments and a pair of knuckles.
I would say this should be accompanied by a May West in case you fall into the fish pond at the Mall. Emergency beacon not needed, NORAD will know exactly where you are at.
 
My Dad carried one. I have a collapsible baton - I like the new ones with the button. I've seen guys bend them beating them on the ground trying to fold them back up. I've done some Arnis outside of work and seem to always find my own knuckles. I assume use of force with a slapjack (if we could carry one) would make it not that effective (head and spine are considered deadly force). Don't know if it would worth it to slap some guys hamstring.
 
I’ve got an old one that belonged to my moms first husband who was a security guard somewhere in the 1930s. Would think that a nightstick would be better to keep someone off you and non lethal.
 
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My dad carried a 6" blackjack during his career and I carried it and or a 12" sap for the first 7 years of my career (84-91) - they worked as designed, especially on elbows, sternums and collar bones. Around 1991 some attorney decided we didn't need them anymore. Never thought about carrying one as a civilian. They're a felony to carry in some states.
 
Drm50 said:
Let’s see the primary EDC gun, the back up EDC gun, primary EDC Bowie knife, back up folding knife, combat load of ammunition, and now a assortment of clubbing type instruments and a pair of knuckles.
I would say this should be accompanied by a May West in case you fall into the fish pond at the Mall. Emergency beacon not needed, NORAD will know exactly where you are at.
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Ya know.... I just decided that I wanted a slapjack. I didnt want to spend a hundred dollars on one so I made one. It currently is residing on my dresser until if and when the time comes that I feel that I need to drop it in my pocket. That time may come.... or not. My apologies if my post has offended you in some way. I carry an EDC. Have most of my life. It changes as to what it is. I carry a knife....own Bowies, several that I forged myself, and carry a reload.
 
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I worked Uniform Patrol from early 70’s thru the mid 90’s….Some of the Guys carried a Flat Sap…Blackjacks, Saps, Sap gloves, not authorized or issued..Use it and the City would not cover you for liability/legal fees..I remember a device called an “Iron Claw”. It was a spring loaded single Cuff with a T handle on top…The few Old timers that had one could instantly snap it on a wrist and have immediate compliance…. I carried a D Cell Kel-lite, later upgraded to a rechargeable Maglite…In the late 70s, the Dept. issued PR-24s, after going thru a 40 hr. Course…..I really liked the PR-24…Really didn’t see anyone with a Sap or Blackjack after that…late 80s, the Dept. transitioned over and issued the ASP….I never liked the expandable aluminum Asp…One of our guys went to a disturbance at a convenience store and when he deployed the Asp, it was ineffective and he wound up injured and in the hospital for several weeks….I retired before the Taser came out….It’s NOT the magic wand it’s advertised to be.

People resist because if they get away and escape, no jail for the time being, if they are subdued, after medical treatment ,as soon as they hit the cell block, “.Hey, what happened to you?” “ Five O messed me up”… Instant street creds..

The only implements I carry now, is a Firearm and a re-load, and a Kubotan on my Key Ring….I’ve got an old Kel-lite with the 3 position switch between the seat and door in my Car….
 
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In 1966 while at the Police Academy I was issued a small billy club that was made out of black rubber.
When used as intended it didn't get the attention of the receiver anywhere near what a slapper got.
It was placed in a drawer and forgotten about.
The tailor made very expensive uniform pants at that time had long narrow rear pockets to accommodate a slapper or blackjack.'
EDIT:the issued nightstick was also a joke;I thought it was made from balsa wood!Once out of the Academy a cocobolo stick was acquired.
 
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In my state, one of these is legally treated the same as a firearm in terms of places that prohibit carry. But in a place where carrying both is allowed I think I prefer having something that reaches out farther than arms’ length. :)
 
I was never "issued" a blackjack but bought and carried one. I never had an occasion to use it. When I started in law enforcement in 1978 most agencies/officers carried them. Our sister agency the NC State Highway Patrol issued the "Convoy." They even had their uniform pants made with a pocket to carry them.

Later during my career they were taken away from the NC SHP. One of their attorneys had one mounted on a plaque in her office. The brass plate that was affixed below it read: "The $186,000.00 Convoy." That's what it cost the State of North Carolina in the civil suit that resulted in their being banned.

I was later issued and trained with an "ASP Baton." Never used it in a defensive action, but they were great for searching pockets of suspects and searching under couches, chairs and cushions. Simply deploying them got people's attention. As a reserve officer today I have one that I carry when working and keep a smaller version in my vehicle. I also keep my certification training up to date with it.
 
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Is a nightstick legal for a civilian to have in his vehicle?
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Laws vary from one state and city to another, but the likely answer is "NO", thou shalt have no such implements under penalty of law.

If thou chooseth to utilize such implements thou might expect a liability lawyer to emphasize thou willful disobedience of such public laws as might regulate possession of such horrible implements.

I choose to carry a Louisville Slugger baseball bat, along with my old fielder's glove and a baseball, just in case I ever find a pick-up baseball game to participate in.

America's favorite pastime and all that stuff.
 
Totin' a slapper in some jurisdictions these days will run one afoul of the statutes.

I recall back in the 70's LE uniform pants often had a special pocket sewn in the the officer's slapper. Today's efficient replacement for it is the expandable baton; they work and officers can be trained in them.
 
When I go out of town and work where weapons are not allowed in the parking lots I get all nostalgic for my days as a salmon seiner and put a 2.5' piece of line from the bottom of a seine in my rig for "good luck". It looks like it is just an old chunk of jacketed rope about a 1" in diameter. Deep inside is a bunch of fine lead wire braided together around a core of line. All that shows on the ends is worn fuzz. A fathom (6') of it weighs 8#. My piece weighs about 3#

Just a fat old man with a piece of rope.
 
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No black jack but I do have a monkeys fist with a semi's lug nut inside. All of those are a no no here along with double edged knives,( but ya can carry any size hunting knife all the time.) but hey we got constitutional carry
 
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