What is keeping S&W from deleting the lock?

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rockquarry said:
With the safety eliminated, the lock moaners would have to find a new cause to pursue, and they don't handle the slightest change well.[/QUOTe

It would create another selection of (not made anymore S&W's) collectible S&W's.

No reason to call anyone lock moaners..........CUZ in reality we all dislike the lock.........But put up with it or delete it.
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Rick Sanborn said:
If they must keep the lock, for whatever reason, an alternate location would work. Put it in front of the trigger guard simulating the style of the old 5 screw guns. The screw would simply lock the cylinder bolt. The lock would have a slotted head like a side plate screw, no need for a special tool. It would have a spring detent inside the frame, one full turn to “click” and its on/off. That would also prevent inadvertent lock engagement under recoil. Just a thought on how to solve both issues, function and esthetics.
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Taurus had the best idea and location..........AN unobtrusive small hole in the lower back of the hammer.
 
Disabling a "safety devise" can get you in a lot of legal trouble if someone gets hurt. And the liberal press would have a field day every time someone accidentally gets shot with a "post safety lock removal" S&W firearm. IMHO, the present company is having to live with a "sin" committed by previous ownership.
 
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Great idea

Rick has best idea. Outside of eliminating. I can understand the reluctance of SW to completely remove IL. In the meantime Colt, Ruger, Charter Arms, Taurus, Henry, Korth/NH, Manuhrin either don’t have it or have it in more palatable location. I’ve acquired many of these. Hopefully SW might entertain Ricks really great suggestion.

Rick Sanborn said:
If they must keep the lock, for whatever reason, an alternate location would work. Put it in front of the trigger guard simulating the style of the old 5 screw guns. The screw would simply lock the cylinder bolt. The lock would have a slotted head like a side plate screw, no need for a special tool. It would have a spring detent inside the frame, one full turn to “click” and its on/off. That would also prevent inadvertent lock engagement under recoil. Just a thought on how to solve both issues, function and esthetics.
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MSD2343 said:
One would think the new competition from Colt as well as ongoing lock-free competition from Ruger and others would at least give them cause to reconsider.
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From what I've read and seen on line the new Colts aren't much competition for S&W and, they don't have the real kings of the hill the 460 and 500 Mags. Don
 
gunbarrel said:
Disabling a "safety devise" can get you in a lot of legal trouble if someone gets hurt. And the liberal press would have a field day every time someone accidentally gets shot with a "post safety lock removal" S&W firearm. IMHO, the present company is having to live with a "sin" committed by previous ownership.
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SO YOU SAY.............NAME ONE(Just one case S&W applicable)..........Just one.
 
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ZGrand said:
I wonder just how many S&W revolvers have NEVER had the lock activated?
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I activated the lock on my 629 once...ONLY once! Go back a couple weeks and you'll see my post about this faux pas! A couple replies were borderline "You stupid idiot!" but most of you treated me humanely!
So, I received quite a few "I removed the locks on all mine" and I wonder if that could come back and bite someone in the butt, legally or whatever? If no issues have risen, the one on my 27-9 "Classic Series" or whatever it is, is coming out!
 
cougar015 said:
Since 2005, if you purchase a gun in the United States, you’re going to be given a free gun lock. It’s a federal law.
Maybe it's the easiest way for them to comply with the Child Safety Lock Act of 2005 which requires the licensee:
When selling, delivering, or transferring a handgun to any person other than another licensee, any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer must provide a secure gun storage or safety device to that person for the handgun.
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Correct!
I bought a smith in 2005 which came with a Master Lock. I still use the lock. The price of the lock was built into the selling price I paid. The money for the lock went to Fortune Brands Master Lock.
They must provide a lock.
They make the lock which they provide.
S&W are not as bad as auto manufacturers which load down vehicles with "mandatory" safety devices for which they have lobbied and by which they profit.
 
seasoldier85 said:
While I absolutely abhor the "hole" and can't bring myself to purchase a Smith that has one, does anyone suppose the same argument was made when seatbelts were made mandatory?
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Of course they did. "I'll be trapped in a burning car" or "I'll be trapped if I run off the road into water and I'll drown," "They'll wrinkle my clothes, They're uncomfortable, and so on and so on. Then it started all over when shoulder belts were introduced. And impact resistant bumpers. And color TV was going to give us all radiation poisoning.
 
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