New Model No. 3 - I'm in the club!
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Or perhaps one of the other 12 calibers in which they are known to have been produced? (!!!!)
Ralph Tremaine
As a seemingly necessary aside, it is written there were 35,796 NM #3 revolvers produced in the primary series in 14 different calibers--------ALL of which were available with target sights. In addition thereto there were 4,333 NM 3 revolvers (known as NM #3 Targets), ALL of which were produced with target sights, and were (supposedly) produced ONLY in .32-44 S&W or .38-44 S&W calibers. Your inquiry ("38-44 or 32-44?") appears to be applicable to NM #3 Target models, and I'd really like to know how you determined this gun here was such---if in fact it is?
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Ralph
If I had determined that it must 38-44 or 32-44 I would not have ended my short post with a ?
However, they seems the most likely caliber.
Thank you for quoting the well known statistics.
I was wondering the other day what the true total number of NM3's was but I put off consulting a reference book
If I had determined that it must 38-44 or 32-44 I would not have ended my short post with a ?
However, they seems the most likely caliber.
Thank you for quoting the well known statistics.
I was wondering the other day what the true total number of NM3's was but I put off consulting a reference book
Well, considering the approximately 7,500 additional guns from two other NM #3 Model series, the .38-44 and the .32-44 are most assuredly some of the least likely calibers---at least the way I look at the numbers.
The (known) 32-44's account for something in the neighborhood of 2,920. The (known) 38-44's another 1,413.
That leaves A BUNCH of other possibilities--A BUNCH!
Here they are:
.32 S&W
.320 Revolving Rifle
.38 S&W
.38-40 Winchester (with 74 known to have been built in their own series (#'s 1 to 74)----and (at least) 1 more known in the NM #3 Target series (#3914). I reckon these right here are the least likely.
.41 S&W
.44 Rim Fire Henry
.44 S&W Russian (very likely the most likely)
.44-40 Winchester
.45 S&W Schofield
.45 Webley
.455 Mark I
.455Mark II
All things considered, I can see why you put off consulting a reference book.
Ralph Tremaine
The (known) 32-44's account for something in the neighborhood of 2,920. The (known) 38-44's another 1,413.
That leaves A BUNCH of other possibilities--A BUNCH!
Here they are:
.32 S&W
.320 Revolving Rifle
.38 S&W
.38-40 Winchester (with 74 known to have been built in their own series (#'s 1 to 74)----and (at least) 1 more known in the NM #3 Target series (#3914). I reckon these right here are the least likely.
.41 S&W
.44 Rim Fire Henry
.44 S&W Russian (very likely the most likely)
.44-40 Winchester
.45 S&W Schofield
.45 Webley
.455 Mark I
.455Mark II
All things considered, I can see why you put off consulting a reference book.
Ralph Tremaine
rickyt
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Mine is the .32-44. Yes,hopefully I'm getting that one back. But, my Russion .44 is on the banned list. Same goes for the likes of the Webley Mk IV with the .455 calibre incidently which I didn't have. Most handguns were banned and many are to kept at the range and not at home. The one's your allowed to keep are pinfire's, percussion, flintlocks, rimfires and de-act's. One or two can be kept on a FC , section 5 at home for display/shows but I think at the discretion of the area Police Force.
Kind of a sad state of affairs when "our employees" dictate to us "their employers" what we can and cannot own and have in "our" private homes.......
AMEN!!
Then again, it's one thing to think about packing up and going elsewhere---another thing to actually do it.
On the other hand, if (IF) we're to believe the "statistics" on folks leaving such as New York and California for elsewhere, they're actually doing it---albeit elsewhere in the same country.
There's moving, and then there's really MOVING! (One thing I know about is moving. In my lifetime: Idaho, California, Minnesota, North Dakota, Missouri, Tennessee, Missouri (again), Pennsylvania, Illinois, Tennessee (again)---and still---and ain't going anywhere else---while I'm still alive anyhow!)
Easier said than done!
Ralph Tremaine
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rickyt
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Things wern't to bad years ago with the keeping of antique weapons and the like. Then we got Hungerford, then Dunblane and another bad one on the west coast, so our Government wern't taking any chances and banned all hand guns. As I've mentioned before I think the UK Gov would be happy if all guns were banned. In my case I just wanted to keep obsolete firearms.....not to fire and have no live ammo, purely for show and maybe exhibit. I could apply for a Firearms Certificate but I'm going to wait. In the meantime I'm buying the next thing ...a selection of blank firers and BB & pellet pistols in the shape of the old classics. Ones like the Tokarev TT33, Nagant, Glock 17 ,1911 and many more , lots more to get yet, C96, Luger, Makarov, P38, PPK etc. These can be kept without any problems, just a permit. It's not the same as the real ones I know ,but it's the next best thing legally.
press-1-for-english
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....and I thought living in New Jersey was bad!
Ralph,
Thank you for the extensive caliber listing. I have a NW 3 serial, serial no 32511 in .44 American. It letters as shipped on November 21 1900 and in 1971 it was one of two known specimens in that caliber.
Thank you for the extensive caliber listing. I have a NW 3 serial, serial no 32511 in .44 American. It letters as shipped on November 21 1900 and in 1971 it was one of two known specimens in that caliber.
Wow. Wonderful example of state-of-the-art manufacturing in the late 19th century. The designs lead to so many great 20th century builds.
Well, count your blessings!
My one and only real odd-ball was a NM #3 Target in 38-40 Winchester. The bad news is they couldn't confirm the caliber. That said, when you consider the number of guns they were trying to keep track of----especially since they were dong it by hand, with pencil and paper, some things are going to fall through the cracks. That said, and if I had my druthers, I'd rather it be someone else's gun that fell through the cracks! The bottom line with my guns is there were only three that got messed up-----this one, an 8" .32 caliber 1st Model Single Shot that lettered as a 10" .22---and one other that I sit here, and can't remember!!---but I can hear God laughing! (And after all that, it was a 6" 2nd Model Single Shot---and they couldn't confirm the barrel length.) I fixed that one by doing nothing for a spell, and then ordering another letter on the same gun. This time they knew the barrel length---and that it was a special order for a single unit.
That's one of those deals that brought about the old saying about "Time heals all wounds.".
Ralph Tremaine
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And then they come in with a warrant to look for them! You say they can't, your LTC says otherwise. Unless you turned it in cause all you lost all your guns in a boating accident and you reported the accident to your insurance company and the police, correct? I'll sit in your driveway and watch the fun!
