Death of an outlet shopping mall

Folks in the country a long time ago were very self sufficient. Staples & needs that they could not make, bake, grow, raise or build were found at country stores or in small towns or had to be ordered by those retail outlets.

Then came Mail order by consumers. Sears, Montgomery Wards and many other companies printed tons of catalogs. Creating accesss to among other things, whole houses, firearms,clothing hardware, household goods , appliances and on and on. With the added the bonus of having free out house material when the next year's addition of the catalog arrived.

Then as towns grew more stores sprang up including stores that specialized. Downtowns became bustling retail districts. Cars came along and runs to towns got easier and faster. As America grew financial times saw both good and bad. Also as the need for things grew families financial income grew also. Suddenly both adults in a family were working often 8 to 5 all week and often on Saturdays. Store hours were the same making it hard for working folks to shop.
A fellow who was born in Oklahoma and lived in Arkansas saw this shopping problem and created an answer. Sam saw the need to have stores, that carried most everything you need, and was open when working folks could get to the stores.
Downtowns began to decline. A new thing called shopping malls started to catch on and did well until many became shooting galleries and youth hangouts.
Then the internet was invented by AlGore and Mail order shopping came back.
Whats next on the American shopping history time line?
 
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The era of the big mall is over.

It is NOT coming back. Perhaps it is better this way.

Most shopping malls I have been into these days are only places to get into trouble...or find trouble.

Security at these places is lacksadasical (sic) AT BEST and non existant at worst. Even when there is security, their hands are tied as to what they can or cannot do. So the bad guys have free run of the places. One fellow I knew worked in retail LP and told me they didn't arrest anymore because the perps would get out on bail and come back with friends and to quote him "teach us a lesson".

The malls were killed off slowly by the Walmarts and Targets which pretty much sell the same things at far reduced prices than any mall. Couple that with places like Amazon, et.al. you can pretty much see where the mall is heading.

Malls in my area are being torn down and replaced with large strip centers and stand alone stores and even they tend to be iffy. In our area, Gulfgate (torn down-turned into strip center), Northline (same thing) and Gunspoint errr "Greenspoint" stand mostly vacant and in bad areas of town. Same with Northwest Mall.

They won't COMPLETELY vanish...but they will be a rare sight.

BTW when Northline Mall here was torn down and turned into a mega strip center, guess who one of the anchor stores was?

Yep. A super-duper-mega Walmart.
 
Now the Outlet malls are just another marketing outlet for the big retailers.

It was disappointing to me to learn that most of the stuff at the outlets is made specifically for outlet sales. The Izod shirt you get at the outlet is not the same as the one you buy at Macy's.

No price discounts or other reason to drive out in the country to these stores.

True. About ten years ago, I stopped at an Outlet mall whilst on a road trip, primarily to visit the necessary. There was a Clark's store there, I like Clark's shoes and they were offering what seemed to be a good deal. I grabbed two pairs of shoes and headed home. The next week, I wandered into the Clark's store at the mall where I was working and found that I could have gotten my shoes for less at the local store.
 
A number of years ago ‘they’ built a Discount Mall at a I25 Exit in Santa Fe and one off I25 in the Boonies halfway between Albuquerque and Santa Fe.
I never thought the Boonie locale was a good idea, but thought the Santa Fe location would work.
I was Wrong!
The midway location was dead on arrival, the Santa Fe site is about 90% dead.
Speaking of Primm, NV.
Bonnie and Clyde Car, Baby.
I’ve never seen it,
Years ago when I was out that way they charged $15 to see it.
It’s Free Now.
I never could face up to paying to see that Ford all shot up!
Love those old Fords!
 

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Malls have been killing themselves with their sameness for decades. Every mall has the same stores and they drive out the one-offs with rent increases.

There used to be a shop at the local mall that sold baked potatoes with toppings. I like baked potatoes so I'd grab one whenever I was at the mall. One day the owner told me that she was closing because the mall trebled her rent.

Malls are also very boring places for men anymore. The memory is fuzzy but the numbers are close, I counted one day and there were 11 stores for lingerie, 10 places that sold jewelry, and 7 places for cell phones. I don't shop at Abercrombie or Buckle so there is little to draw me to the mall. My local mall doesn't even have a good kitchen store.
 
There are 3 small indoor malls near me. the 1st one built is now part of the area Community College. When another lost 2 of the larger stores a 4 plex movie theater went in. So then the downtown theater went bye.
Both malls are hanging on. Missing is a food court, nothing at all.
 
I buy almost everything online or from Amazon. I buy refrigerated and frozen items from the grocery store and that’s about it, the less time going out shopping the better. However, with clothes and shoes, I am a little picky about how they fit and will go to the stores and try things on I like. We have an outlet mall in Oklahoma City that is crowded all the time and has really good deals. I’ll never pay $150 for a pair of tennis shoes I can go there and get Under armor, New balance, Adidas, Reebok, or whatever for under 50 bucks. I bought a very expensive Northface ski coat for 70% off, deals like that make it worth the trip.
 
Reno had the Park Lane mall in the 90's that had big name stores and a Sear's, near Plumb lane and South Virginia streets, that died out.

It is now home od a low income housing unit and a tri-plex movie house.

We do have a new Meadowwood Mall maybe four miles further south on Virginia street and I hope it does well, since it has a See's Candy store in it.

It does well on big Holidays.

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I prefer to patronize Goodwill. And that is not an idle comment. I have not set foot inside a local mall for any purpose for at least 15 years.

For a long time I have predicted that the old retail marketing model is not sustainable. Malls no longer serve a need.
 
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It was disappointing to me to learn that most of the stuff at the outlets is made specifically for outlet sales. The Izod shirt you get at the outlet is not the same as the one you buy at Macy's.

That seems to be the model for outlet malls. Over 40 years ago, Mom and Mrs. swsig insisted that Dad and I take them to a big outlet mall on I-10 near Palm Springs. After a seemingly interminable wait, they returned empty handed. Mom, who was a pretty astute shopper, said that while the prices were good, the quality was not. Apparently, the manufacturers were creating "factory seconds" specifically for outlet malls even then.
 
San Marcos Outlet Mall (actually two different but co-located malls) on I-35 between San Antonio and Austin is one of the country's largest, over 200 "outlet" stores. We have been there a couple of times, most recently about 4 years ago. No reason to waste the gas going there, no real deals to be had.
 
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the less time going out shopping the better.

I hear that from a lot of people. The funny thing is that most people don't do anything interesting with the time saved. So they avoid contact with others to hide in their artificial caves. I'd rather go out. I buy online when I know that I'd have trouble finding it locally.
 
On one of my trips to Minneapolis I paid a visit to MoA simply to kill some time before my plane left (it's fairly close to the M/SP airport). Just like any other mall, except larger, and with an amusement park in the middle. I didn't buy anything.
 
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Malls were a fad.....

....and the the fad is over.

I just went to a medical complex for an appointment. The 'Citadel mall' is still partly functional but an entire wing has been taken over by clinics from the local medical university. It also sports a police substation because for a while it was a crime center to the point that it had to close for a while. It also has an abundance of perfume, jewelry, chic clothing, bed and bath, nails and eyebrow affairs that I'm totally uninterested in. Some of the more unusual for a mall operations are Jui-jitsu, model railroad club and Avis Rent a Car.

Somehow Northwoods mall is still hanging on. It looked like a ghost town for years, but they seem to have revitalized. I've been there about twice in the last 10 years for some reason. It got to be a haven for walkers.
 
"It's got to be a haven for walkers" hits the nail on the head. The senior community has taken over the mostly deserted malls for their walking routines and they don't want the buildings to be demolished as they are their weatherproof exercise locations.
 
Nearby Quaker Bridge mall used to have an arcade, pinball palace, movie theater-all gone. The mega-movie theater nearby is also closed. Quaker Bridge used to have various attractions, recall seeing Joe Bowman, the Straight Shooter there. Square dancing festivals, e.g. Also they have marked their floors with distances for the seniors.
I have yet to buy anything from Amazo9n, so Jeff Bezos has made no money off me.
Yes, Goodwill, Salvation Army, been shopping at thrifts for the last 15 years, wish I had been doing it the last 40 years. Only things I haven't found are work pants, shirts, shoes, socks, underwear.
 
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