steelwater gun safes , need help here

wow ! this is old info !....

i didnt end up going with steel water . bought a johnson safe made by jeff jonhson just a few miles from where live .
it is 8 gauge , i believe , with a good fire rating . the steel in it is the thickness of 2 quarters & 1 dime ( on edge )
key point in a safe is the door . the video of them trying to tear into the steelwater safe is interesting , but i dont believe they could even do have the damange to the safe i own in 3 tines the time !
you might get on line and check out johnson safes and try yo find a like built one nearer you .... mr johnson goes on a regular basis to the indy 15000 show also
 
If that 1800 degree rating is anything like the Mha ratings they put on their rechargable batteries, or the Lumen ratings they put on their LED flashlights I'd be real concerned.
 
bad keypads, customer service

Steelwater Safes doesn't support it's products & for incomprehensible reasons,misrepresents the content of my communications asking for support as being profane,manufacturing an excuse not only to not provide support but also for being extremely rude,condescending & ultimately hanging up on me every time I called & tried to be heard.
The Steelwater keypads fail when the batteries run out. twice this has happened to me.The 1st time they arranged for a lcoksmith to change it.
It worked until Dec.2024 when the battery ran out again.The lights came on but the keypad didn't work.So I changed the battery,which is the recommended step when this happens and the battery has been in for a long time.But after changing it,the lights didn't even come on anymore.So i wrote them an Email CONTAINING NO PROFANITY,which was ignored.So i called for support & the above described "conversations" transpired.
The company rep on the phone characterized my email as being profane and name calling, even read it back to me and hung up when I tired to respond. so I checked my email in my sent messages and it contains NONE of the Language the person claimed it did. My email was matter of fact, stated my problem and asked for help and was rejected as were all of my phone calls.
 
I bought a safe last year, and I went with Zanotti in Iowa. Not a fire rated unit, but a quality unit. Modular construction that goes together perfectly in 30 minutes.

I would not touch a Chinese safe. Who backs up the warranty, Mutual of Beijing?

I recommend a mechanical Sargent and Greenleaf lock. Skip the pushbutton stuff. Zanotti will not use a pushbutton lock.

Remember " The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."

If you must have a Chinese safe go to Tractor Supply. At least you have an American National company to gripe to
 
I have 2 Pella's, built in Iowa, mechanical lock's, no complaint's.
 
rock n roll kid said:
found this company on line and they have a good web site and what looks like a good safe for the $ invested . does anyone have one of these safes ?

please check out the info on the company and give me your thoughts . i am looking at the model that holds 39 long guns and is about 700 lbs. and has a fire rating rating of 1 hour at 1800 degrees . they FREE SHIP to curb side and give 5% off to veterans .
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I own 5 Champion safes. I wanted to bring up some figures for your consideration.

The red safe is a Triumph-40. The Triumph series is the second line in the Champion safes. It is fire rated for 90 minutes before a 1650 degree Fahrenheit fire will bring the interior temperature up to 349 degrees F. According to the company literature for this safe, paper and documents will char at 405 degrees. It weighs 1135 pounds. The steel rods in the door are 1 1/2" thick.

The safe in the background is a Crown-30. The Crown series is the top of the line for Champion. It is fire rated for 105 minutes before a 1500 degree F. fire will bring the interior temperature up to 344 degrees F. This safe also has 1 1/2" thick rods in the door.

I just went down to the basement and checked out these statistics right from the safes. And remember, I've never heard anybody say, "I wish would have bought a smaller safe."
 

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Buy American. Damn the price.
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While I don't disagree, many of us don't have an extra $500+ for that, IMO.

I'm shopping for an additional safe myself, but my budget is in the $1K-1200 range.

Smash & grab is my biggest concern due to where I live (rural area).

My .o2
 
Golddollar said:
I own 5 Champion safes. I wanted to bring up some figures for your consideration.

The red safe is a Triumph-40. The Triumph series is the second line in the Champion safes. It is fire rated for 90 minutes before a 1650 degree Fahrenheit fire will bring the interior temperature up to 349 degrees F. According to the company literature for this safe, paper and documents will char at 405 degrees. It weighs 1135 pounds. The steel rods in the door are 1 1/2" thick.

The safe in the background is a Crown-30. The Crown series is the top of the line for Champion. It is fire rated for 105 minutes before a 1500 degree F. fire will bring the interior temperature up to 344 degrees F. This safe also has 1 1/2" thick rods in the door.

I just went down to the basement and checked out these statistics right from the safes. And remember, I've never heard anybody say, "I wish would have bought a smaller safe."
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Golddollar, the only problem I see with your is that it is empty!:rolleyes: BTW, how does the hang able option on the door work for you?
Larry
 
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