The use of WC ammo for defense is not new, just rehashed. In 1969 using wadcutters was espoused by some gurus for SD & LE. Some touted using HB wadcutters seated backwards, I saw something like that advertised recently like it was a new cure for cancer. I still use the 158 gr SWC HP +P as it is what I was "raised on". Used it, still works.
The "Chicago Load" or the "FBI Load" was the issue round for most of the time I spent with Chicago PD (1965-1995). The +P round was required for steel medium framed revolvers, and the non +P round for small frame and alloy framed revolvers. For a short time the same round in non HP configuration was issued. I use the "Nyclad" version of HP or SCW, like it a lot. For 9mm Super Vel was the way to go, similar 9mm rounds still are IMHO. The Super Vel was a 90 or 110 gr copper jacked HP which really moved out, 1200 actual fps, IIRC. Made quite a flash also. Of course the semi auto handguns of the day were a little problematical. The Model 39 came out with the Illinois State Police in 1967, replaced by the Model 59 a few years later. I felt the Browning HP was the best 9mm back then, still do. Super Vel also produced some real fire breathing 38/357 rounds, quite literally fire breathing. Same formula, lightweight JHP moving out at serious velocity
Chicago cops carried 6 rounds in the gun and 6 in a dump pouch (the operative word is "dump"), For a while some bosses enforced the "only 12 rounds rule" strictly. The ISP were authorized to carry only one spare magazine in a pouch on the cross draw holster, and they enforced that rule very strictly for a time. That changed when a trooper saved his and several other lives because he had a "bootleg" extra magazine with him and the fight exceeded the capacity of his M39 and extra magazine. He got a medal and a written reprimand at the same time, then they changed the rule. I just carried an extra dump pouch which could be slipped off and pocketed when the Inspector was around.
Don't remember who said it, but: "Bullet placement is King, penetration is Queen, everything else is angels dancing on the head of a pin".
I believe it.
I have seen a lot of folks shot with small calibers fall over dead, and many shot several times with the biggest and heaviest loads keep on being seriously anti social. For a while. Sometimes, quite a while.
There are so many variables, particularly these days with so much drug use, and so many crazy folks around, including some very high ardrenalin. I believe those factors do affect how people respond to getting shot.
I am starting to think that ones' social agenda may produce some very high chemical responses, of course I could be wrong. I was wrong once, but then I realized I was mistaken.
I am an old guy, I get to ramble...
And NOBODY on line ever has any. Woops...just saw the post that mentions Midway USA has them in stock! $33/box +Hazmat+Shipping. Maybe free ship for 3 boxes. Hmmmmm...
Believe me, I worked hard to come up with three brands of ammo that I trust to perform well. She has also been instructed to KEEP FIRING until the threat is stopped. Also, the .380 is the cartridge that I'm most interested in the Lehigh 'philips head'bullets, because of problems with penetration/expansion. Like all other pistol ammo, the .380 has benefitted from improvements, but I realize that it's still an 'iffy' SD choice.
