Browning B92 vs Rossi R92.

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I put this B92 in .44 magnum on hold while I ponder whether to commit .
My gut says it's worth paying almost double what I see used Rossi R92's selling for,
What say you?
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I had a B92 way back when. It was ok.

My friend has an R92. He bought it used. I suspect it’s had the action smoothened up by the previous owner because it’s nice. The trigger on his is nice.

We drilled and tapped my Miroku 1892, which is basically the same thing as the B92, and his Rossi the same day.
We then removed the safety on his Rossi, because now the safety is under the Lyman 66LA Peep sight.
His rifle does everything my more expensive Miroku does. Accuracy wise, it’s a toss up, and my Miroku is very accurate.

The wood on mine is prettier. His, on his Rossi isn’t bad, but like you said, the rifle costs half as much.

Rossi uses some weird dimension dovetail for the front sight. So you’re stuck with what you get, which is a square black blade, which works really well on paper. The B92, any sight that MidwayUSA sells will work.

My browning had a 1 in 36 twist. It only shot 180s, and 200s to my liking. My Miroku has a 1 in 20 twist. If I could scope that rifle, I’ll bet it’d put 5, 240 XTPs under an inch and a half at 100.
 
I have three Browning Winchesters.

A 53, in 32/20. An 1886, in 45/70. And an 1895 in 30 Army.
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They are all three excellent rifles.

I also have Rossi 92s in 44/40, 44 Magnum and 45 Colt. Used to have a 357 but I gave it to my daughter.

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In my opinion the Rossi 92s are just as good of guns as the Brownings.

And while I sent my Rossi rifles to Steve Young for action jobs (which they, pretty much, needed), I also sent the Browning 53 and 86 (because they needed them too).
 
I have three Rossi 92s: a 357, 44 Mag, and a 45 Colt. I also have two original Winchester 92s: 32-20 and a 38-40. Never owned a Miroku/Browing 92 but I did have a model 86 at one time. Fit and finish of the Browning will win hands down, but the Rossi should function and shoot just as well. It's your choice. Personally I would rather own a good shooter grade original Winchester for the price of a Browning or Miroku Winchester.

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I have a Rossi '92 in .45 Colt. I got it from Steve Young. I had him do an action job and also had him bead blast it. This has been a great little saddle gun and truck gun...and accurate. I might add that it's also much smoother than the Marlin and Winchester lever actions that I own. I don't have a Browning '92 with which to compare it, but after thinking it over, I don't know how I could improve upon it.
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I put this B92 in .44 magnum on hold while I ponder whether to commit .
My gut says it's worth paying almost double what I see used Rossi R92's selling for,
What say you?
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Hey, it's your gut so ultimately your call. I haven't owned a Browning B92 but I owned a Rossi R92 in .44 Mag in the same configuration. With full house loads, that steel buttplate was brutal and I wound up selling it. I should've either downloaded for it or put a rubber buttpad on it.

More recently I've acquire newer Rossi R92s and I like them. I have a 24" .357 with octagonal barrel and crescent buttplate that is a pleasure to shoot. I also had a 20" in .45 Colt that I gave to the oldest son, but I replaced it with one chambered in .454 Casull. It has a rubber buttplate from the factory and is tolerable shooting .454, but is quite nice with Ruger level .45 Colt loads.

What I like about the newer Rossis is that you can replace the wonky little safety lever on the bolt, with a peep sight from StevesGunz. I've always hated buckhorn rear sights and a peep is a lot easier for me to use, plus the sight radius is increased.

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In the past, I have owned 2 Browning B92’s in .44 Mag. I sold them both and now have a Rossi R92 Trapper size in .44 Mag. I like the Rossi better than my Brownings. I still own a Browning B53 in 32-20 but my three Rossi's seem to be smoother (.44 Mag, .357 Mag, and a .45 Colt).

TJ
 
Never had a B92, but I did buy a R92 in .357 awhile back. I did a few things recommended on the web. It was a great shooter. The only thing lacking was a horse, saddle, scabbard, and a range to ride on. Ended up selling it. Couldn’t afford a horse.
 
I have a EMF model 1892 saddle ring carbine in .357. These were made by Rossi for EMF to a nicer fit and finish. Mine is color case hardened and is a dandy shooter. I replaced the ugly and unnecessary bolt safety with a plug kit from Steve's Gunz and it's never given me a problem shooting both .38 Specials and .357 magnum ammo. I've taken several whitetail deer and feral hogs with it. A few coyotes too.

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Had a Rossi, an early LSI import. A surprisingly nice rifle. Sold to a friend so his daughter could deer hunt. Kind of miss it.

Is it as nice as a Browning? No, but it's a fraction of the price. The Brazilians have been making these for decades, probably longer than Winchester did. They have it figured out. Currently running one of the new Ruger/Marlin 1894s in 357. That is a very nice piece.
 
I traded for a B92, 44 Rem Mag around 1995, shot great, a fine-looking lever gun. It was a good companion to Ruger Blackhawk and Redhawk. I made a boneheaded move and traded it off around 2010. Definitely on the "Regret Gun Trade List."
 
I have a Rossi '92 in .45 Colt. I got it from Steve Young. I had him do an action job and also had him bead blast it. This has been a great little saddle gun and truck gun...and accurate. I might add that it's also much smoother than the Marlin and Winchester lever actions that I own. I don't have a Browning '92 with which to compare it, but after thinking it over, I don't know how I could improve upon it.
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Love that bead blast.
 
I collect levers, since about 1976. I have Winchesters, Marlins, Henrys and Rossis, Only 2 are in 410 the rest are in 22, 22 mag, 357, 45, 454, 30-30 and 45-70.

The JM Marlins are over rated, the micro groove works but ballard rifling is better. As to smoothness, the Henrys are probably the best, and shoot fine. I have a Golden Boy in 22 mag that shoots as good as i t looks.

Winchesters are pretty much as always, some have premier polish some not so much but the standard by which all others are made, which brings me to the point. Your Browning is a top of the line Winchester so to speak. The fit and polish should be as good or better than any of these 5 mentioned. If you are a hunter and plan on scratching it up, the others would be just fine. If you like the smooth finish and shiny stock, buy the Browning, and use it.

Henrys are fine and very smooth, the rimfire have a painted receiver and scratch badly, however, they are smooth like glass. The centerfire generally are much heavier than the others, an issue if you walk and hunt. If you just shoot deer from an elevated stand and not really hunt them, weight does not matter. You can even get buy with the shiny brass stocks, if that floats your boat, because deer eating at feeders do not look around much.

Rossis are my favorites across the board because I prefer not to scope them. I have Marlins in 357, I scope them and they shoot 1.25 inch groups all day long, I like that and one of them I have had since 1982 the first year of the 1894C. The Rossis are smooth, the 16 inch very handy. The 20 inch is fine as well.

As to the 454, someone said they are tolerable with 45 Colt. Yep, they weigh about 5.5 pounds, Shoot 20 rounds of Magtech 260 grain ammo through that gun at tell us about that fun event. LOL They kick like my 300 Weatherby.

And as you have read, Steveguns, is the guru of modifications of the Rossis.

You questions was whether the Browning was worth more. Yes, but how much more? One thing to now consider. A model 1892 is the traditional Rossi that was a $500 before Covid, they are more now. But also Rossi is selling lever on the Marlin 336 action now. And so is many other companies, like Smith and Wesson. So, when you look at price, remember the Marlin 1894 and 335 actions both allow for a scope on top, the model 92s from all companies do not normally, they eject from the top, except for the angle eject Winchesters. Different actions have different costs. And all the costs of Rossis and others have gone up. The only low cost ones are new on the market and made in Turkey. They get good reviews, I only have one of those, the RIA in 410, too early to give a report but initially my impression is they are great.

That said, if it were me, I would pay more for the Browning, but not much, I have 3 Rossis now and zero complaints and all three are perfect in function and finish and fit. So for me, I might pay $100 more because I expect better bluing.

Nothing wrong with your Browning, if you like the price buy it an enjoy it. And if there is a resale, you would do better with the Browning.
 
A few thoughts and observations:

1) Rossi has been making its version of the Winchester 1892 *in magnum pistol cartridges* since the 1960s and they have more experience with the basic model 1892 design in those cartridges than anyone else. The Winchester 1892 action was basically a miniaturized 1886, and its a very strong action design. Rossi made it stronger and improved it with coil springs, and other modern methods.

2) Wood on the Rossi 92s have varied a bit over the years by era and importer. Over the last decade the wood has gotten much better. 10 or so years ago the mystery hardwood was finished with something with all the charm of shoe polish, that would also run in the rain. But on the other hand it made a decent base coat for application of a Tru-Oil, Pure Tung Oil, or Boiled Linseed Oil finish. The first couple coats took several hours to integrate with the original finish, but the other coats would go on like normal and 3-4 coats would take it from this:

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To this:

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3) The metalwork and bluing or case hardened finish on all three Rossi 92s I own is good quality. But they all benefitted from a thorough cleaning to remove preservative grease and a surprising amount of chips and swarf from machining.

I recommend getting the DVD from Steve's Gunz that walks you through the disassembly and reassembly process so that you can give it a thorough cleaning. Once that's been done its not hard to do again.

If you are not confident with disassembly, just remove the stock and forearm, clean the metal parts thoroughly with a spray type gun cleaner or brake cleaner, then lubricate the assembly thoroughly with a spray gun oil, then let it rest on the tang and drip the excess into a cake pan over night before putting the wood back on.

4) It also benefits from a action job and that's also discussed in the Steve's Gunz dvd. if you are reasonably mechanically inclined and can use tools small file fairly proficiently, its not hard to do. It will basically include:

- Removing the ejector spring and replacing it with a lighter one from Steve's Gunz (if you do nothing else you'll see about 80 percent of the total improvement);

- Cutting a couple coils off the hammer spring to reduce cocking effort;

- Shortening the magazine spring, and filing about 1/3 off the loading gate spring to make loading easier;

- Polishing the lever detent;

- Polishing the detents in the cartridge guides;

- Polishing the camming surfaces on the back of the bolt and the front of the locking lugs; and

- Replacing the plastic magazine follower with a stainless follower from Steve's Gunz.

The end result will be a Model 92 every bit as slick as a Browning or Winchester 1892 for half the money.

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5) Rossi started putting a pig tail safety on the bolt about 15 years ago and its in my opinion an unsafe design as its way to easily brushed to the on or off position without the shooter being away of it. But it is easily removed and replaced with a plug you can get from Steve's Gunz. It will still have the quarter cock notch that the original 1892 had, and its easily carried with the lever slightly opened, which takes it out of battery and prevents the hammer from contacting the firing pin.

6) In addition to the 20" carbine in .45 Colt shown at the top, I have a 20" rifle in .357 Mag and a 24" rifle in .357 Mag. Both are 2 MOA 5 shot group rifles at 100 yards with a tang sight. Velocities with Federal 158 gr Soft point (American Hunter or Champion) average 1820 fps, and are effective on deer to 150 yards where the bullet still has 1350 fps and 640 ft pounds of energy. I zero at 150 yards which gives me a very reasonable maximum mid range trajectory of 3.7". I do the initial zero at 50 yards with a 3" high point of impact and then verify at 150 yards.

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7) Beartooth Mercantile sells a hammer screw with a saddle ring on it, that lets you separate the front and rear halves without tools.

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Thanks for all the replies and thoughts,
I like all the good reviews for the Rossi, sounds like people are generally happy.

I guess I'll have to pick up the Browning and look for an R92 in .357.

I want to love the Marlin, but I've got an 1894 in .32-20 and it's afflicted so badly with the dreaded marlin jam that it's 100% a single shot until I get the carrier adjusted...so no more marlins for me.
 
I have a Rossi 92 .44 Magnum with 16" barrel. I'm very pleased with it. I'm impressed that it handles the Lee 310 gr. cast bullet perfectly with regard to feeding and accuracy. So far it has shot everything well from 200 to 310 grs. to include cast, plated and jacketed bullets. The 310 gr. bullet hits right behind the front bead which is fine for shooting deer in the woods.
 
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