I Am So Sick Of Hearing the Term.....

Darwin was right.
Modern scientific methods has quantified his observations.
I suppose it is an ice-cold, raw, unsympathetic, cruel, insensitive concept to suggest that survival of the fittest is, in fact, the natural eventuality for each of us. So be it. Kinda the way God intended , don'cha think?
 
GypsmJim said:
I personally have not left any debt for anyone. It was the politicians that did it, many of which I never voted for.

I lived in a lower middle class family, and worked full time while attending the University. No debt when I graduated, and I followed a curriculum that had value in the real world.

We waited to get married until we had the down payment for a house (a fixerupper by the way). Then, we waited until we had paid off the mortgage until we started a family. I never bought a car until I could pay cash.

I learned from my parents. They lived in a flat until they paid cash for a little house. My kids learned from us and their Grandparents. My son bought his first house at age 19, after working all thru high school. Today he is an executive making an obscene salary. My other son is a licensed Master Social Worker. Not rich, but serving the community.

I just bought a brand new Cadillac, and have no reason to be embarrassed about it.

All my contemporaries had the same neighborhood, the same parent's values and the same opportunities. Life is what you make of it.
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Stupid, ignorant, and freedom/western civilization-hating voters electing toxic politicians are what is making things hard on so many.
I paid off my student loans ahead of time long ago, and have always spent less than I made. Rarely put much money in things (durable goods) that did not hold their value reasonably well over time.
AI is going to screw up the job market Big Time soon. Has already started, actually.
The Skilled Trades and some other manual labor blue collar jobs are where the money is going to be for 90% of the work force in the future.
A good HVAC guy, welder, or plumber often makes more money per year than a lot of people with Bachelors or Masters degrees having office jobs. That will continue to be so for the foreseeable future. And they typically have incurred little or no student debt.
 
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As someone born in the mid 1990's, I can say that the term 'boomer' used as an insult isn't meant to insult someone belonging to that generational group simply by virtue of being born at a certain time. It's an insult used to dismiss statements made by individuals (commonly belonging to the baby boomer generation) who are woefully out of touch with the difficulties of being a young person in the 21st century.

This post from another forum sums up the feelings that younger people have pretty well;
Do you have an older relative or friend who haven't updated their worldview since Reagan? Maybe someone who thinks kids can still get jobs at a factory right after high school and pay for a family of 4 on that one salary. Perhaps someone who went to state college when you could pay for two semesters of tuition based on your summer job. Maybe they say things like "kids these days are all snowflakes" but then freak the hell out whenever they encounter anyone who even remotely criticizes them. Maybe someone who worked 40 years in a union job and has a 401(K) of half a million plus a pension and full medical in retirement - but who then dutifully votes for politicians who want to bust unions. People who are confused as to why young people are bothered by the fact jobs don't pay enough to live, criticize them, but then don't bother to even look into whether their is a truth to the matter.

Here is the deal, the older millennial (like me!) are now in our mid-thirties. We have enough life experience to see that our experiences are markedly different than the boomer generation and that the stock idiotic advice they have been prattling on about for the past 20 years is very stupid. Now we are old enough to be able to quantify just how out of touch they are.

This isn't all boomers, of course, it speaks to a very stereotypical boomer who is quick to lecture but is unable to take in any new information that might contradict their long held and ossified beliefs.
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Even George Carlin called out the this pervasive mentality in this generation well over 20 years ago.

 
Young people simply have accepted as true the philosophical basis of group identity, which does not hold up under any honest critical scrutiny.
The notion that there is any connection between the people who wallowed in the mud in Viet Nam and those who wallowed in the mud at Woodstock is absurd!
 
Every generation experiences this, especially in matters of culture. I remember watching the Beatles for the first time, on the Ed Sullivan Show, on February 9, 1964. I was almost 11, and was mesmerized; my father, who was then 39 years old, was horrified. I can remember him to this day saying that they needed haircuts… :)

The thing that’s different about the term “Boomer” is that it’s usually used in a derisive manner, and often by young people who would never, ever, use a racial or ethnic slur. When I hear it, I respond that if they’re lucky enough to live as long as I have, some young blankety-blank will have a pet name for them too…
 
My grandfather told my dad the he and his generation were doomed to failure. My dad told me the same. I refused to sling that bilge at my kids and grandkids. I helped and encouraged them to make their way in this tumultuous world.

And they have. I am immensely proud of the paths they have chosen.
 
Beemerguy53 said:
Every generation experiences this, especially in matters of culture. I remember watching the Beatles for the first time, on the Ed Sullivan Show, on February 9, 1964. I was almost 11, and was mesmerized; my father, who was then 39 years old, was horrified. I can remember him to this day saying that they needed haircuts… :)

The thing that’s different about the term “Boomer” is that it’s usually used in a derisive manner, and often by young people who would never, ever, use a racial or ethnic slur. When I hear it, I respond that if they’re lucky enough to live as long as I have, some young blankety-blank will have a pet name for them too…
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Whats funny about that is if you look at pictures of them back then, their hair was not that long and they actually looked very clean cut.

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I, too, was 11 when I was thunder struck when I saw The Beatles on Ed Sullivan.

At that very moment I knew what I wanted to do with my life and never veered from it.

At first dad was reluctant to help me but mom made him come around.

What a great joyride it has been.
 
Getting back to the original post...

"Boomer" - short for "Baby Boomer", of course - is just a designation for our generation, and as such I can find no reason to be perturbed by it. What can be annoying is the implied insult when uttered by some people. Let's face it, every generation develops a certain distain for previous generations; for "screwing up the world", for being "out of touch" and "set in their ways" and for just plain being old. Frankly, I've come to peace with the whole thing, knowing for certain that all those showing distain for Boomers will, eventually, have their turn.
 
People come up with labels for ease of identification, then lump people together who often have little in common. I have known people who were little touched by the Great Depression, some Baby Boomers grew up in that new phenomenon called "The Suburbs", others in established towns and cities. The terms covers people born in certain years but says nothing about their families, life experiences, etc.
 
I’ve never heard boomer uttered in my presence. What is said in private I’ll know at the resurrection.

I get along quite well with all the youngsters working the reception desk, not sure what Gen but all under 25, at my gym. I spend a few minutes with them when checking in, asking them things like “do you know what an 8 track is?”. We laugh together, and at each other. I listen to them and encourage them in their endeavors, with some of my life experiences mixed in. Never preaching, just listening to them.

When I miss the gym for a few days they always greet me with big smiles, the back and forth commences and they ask where I was, and welcome me back.

I treat them with understanding and kindness, and get it back in bulk.
 
Brian Parrish said:
Young people simply have accepted as true the philosophical basis of group identity, which does not hold up under any honest critical scrutiny.
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OK...I enjoy poking fun at the youngsters because they provide so much low hanging fruit, and I can't help anyone who takes my comments to serious and lack a sense of humor. I poked fun at millennials one time and a member took it as a personal attack against his kids and probably hates me because of it to this day...so be it, I don't care. But...I have to admit, changing one word to this is as equally true.

Older people simply have accepted as true the philosophical basis of group identity, which does not hold up under any honest critical scrutiny.
 
Brian Parrish said:
Young people simply have accepted as true the philosophical basis of group identity, which does not hold up under any honest critical scrutiny.
The notion that there is any connection between the people who wallowed in the mud in Viet Nam and those who wallowed in the mud at Woodstock is absurd!
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As an ROTC cadet I had a crush on a girlie in my class. When she saw me in my uniform she blew me away. Later I found another.

Just before I began my military career I dated a girlie that was cute, but seemed a bit deranged. She DID go to Woodstock and wallowed in the mud, which I thought was not appropriate at the time, nevertheless we broke up. She later told me that her previous love had wallowed in Nam and came back dead. Then I understood.
 
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