ANYONE USING AUSTRALIAN "H-TEK" COATED BULLETS?

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Is anyone reloading with the bullet COATINGS FROM AUSTRALIA?

Bayou Bullets, SNS Casting. Gateway Bullets are using this Coating/Catalyst mix.

Anyone have RESULTS from shooting these coated pills?(Accuracy/Wear)

These coatings have been used for 20 years in OZ by Competition Shooters.

Donnie at Bayou sells the components or finished bullets, not sure about the others.
 
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I've shot a couple thousand 9mm Bayou Bullets, virtually no smoke, they are as accurate as I am, no problem with leading, clean up is fine. They are inexpensive, no mess while reloading.
 
I've been testing the coating on .44 bullets. There's a bit of a learning curve for best results, but it seems quite promising. The green has been the easiest color to make work perfectly. The red copper appears to need either a little more time in the oven or a bit more heat. But it builds up more, so it's useful for getting 0.001 or 0.002" larger bullets for the older, larger throated S&Ws.
 
jaymoore,

I just started with the GREEN, and have had failures TWICE so far.

The color doesn't pass the ACETONE wipe test.

I have WONDERFUL LUCK with the GOLD METALLIC.

I shot 100+ last week in 45 ACP and 38 Special. (GOLD)

LOW SMOKE AND NO LEADING.

I'll try again but I'm starting to be concerned that MY GREEN is possibly BAD COMPONENTS.

I got a 1/2 order of GREEN AND 1/2 order GOLD from Donnie at Bayou Bullets.

So far Gold is GOOD but my GREEN SUCKS.

I'm in communication with an Australian user and he says to

use and do everything the same as my Gold Coatings, but it's not working.

Mixing ratios of components 5 Color, 1 Catalyst, 7 Acetone,

Baking 10 Minutes 380F in a BREVILLE BVO800XL CONVECTION OVEN.

Works A-OK for the GOLD COLOR coatings.
 
I recently got into casting. After hours of research I settled on the coating from Bayou. I couldn't be happier. Virtually no smoke and no leading at all. It took a couple of tries to get the coating just right but I started with small batches and now that I have it down I can't see using anything else. I use the green for what it's worth but I might try another color next time. Also Donnie is great about answering your questions to help you get your bullets right.
 
Moonman

I followed the HI-Tek coating thread on the Cast Bullet Forum, and saw your post about the Breville toaster oven.

I bought that oven and the first time I baked a batch of green bullets, I set the temp at 380 for 10 min. The bullets did not pass the acetone wipe test, I had to put them pack in at 400 for another 5 min. and the bullets came out ok.

Since then I bake the green coatings at 400 for 10 min. and I get perfect bullets.

Try kicking up your heat an bake time. I think it will fix your issues.
 
My buddy is using the Bayou Bullet coating. I've tried it in .45ACP and .44 Special. I like it, little to no smoke. I have another batch coming for 250gr .44 Keith style LSWC.

He spent a 1/2 day at Donnie's shop (Bayou Bullets) to learn the coating process.
 
Paul4895,

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

Donnie from Bayou Bullets PM'd me a few minutes ago.

I'm going to increase my Bake time and Temp.

THEN LOOK TO AN ACETONE ISSUE if that doesn't help as I switched brands.

My GOLD coated work fine at 380F for 10 minutes in the Breville.

LOVE my BREVILLE "SMART" OVEN, expensive but it's SWEET WORKING.
 
What about long term storage? Is there any effect on powder or priming from this stuff? And, does it leave any kind of bad or harmful residue inside the cases? I am not limiting my inquiry to people-harmful, but also to further reload-harmful with respect to any bad effect on future powder drops, reaction with powder or with primers, etc.
 
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Shaun,

This coating deal has been used in AUSTRALIA for TWO DECADES.

Interest in the USA is rising because of INDOOR RANGES wanting

FULLY ENCAPSULATED LEAD or NON-LEAD PROJECTILES only.

Competitors there seem to LOVE THE STUFF.
 
Paul4895,

I baked 50 DARK GREEN pills today,
it looks like my previous failures with DARK GREEN
was their baking temp.(Was previously 380F and failure)

I raised the temp in my BREVILLE BRO800XL "SMART"
Convection oven to 400F and baked them for 10 minutes
and ALL IS WELL, they passed both tests twice.

380F seems to work for my GOLD METALLIC,
but the DARK GREEN wants 400F for 10 Minutes,
Just like you found out.

THANKS AGAIN.

MOONMAN
 
Paul4895,

Ausglock in Australia suggests I try staying at 380F, but

INCREASE THE BAKE TO 12 MINUTES FROM 10.

He does a lot of test work for the manufacturer with different colors.

HE PREFERS KEEPING A STABLE TEMPERATURE "AND VARY THE BAKING TIME"

I'll give it a try, but at least now I know it will work at 400F at 10 min.

and I don't need to be concerned with a BAD PRODUCT or BAD ACETONE.

Ausglock's been working with a "ZOMBIE GREEN" which is working,

and some BLUES that HAVE NOT (don't stay blue)

THE JOURNEY CONTINUES.
 
When I looked up the Hy-tek coating it reminded me of this video I'd watched earlier. This gentleman worked two years on a similar project for the do-it-your-self types. I don't know whether this is cheaper or not as I haven't tried either method, and don't have any plans to try either in the near future, but for any that are interested here it is. And there is some helpful information in the comments.

How to make color coated bullets (MCC) incl. recipe - YouTube
 
Jellybean,

I believe the reason some are experimenting with coatings

because the direction some USA ranges especially INDOOR are heading.

Some ranges require TOTALLY ENCAPSULATED LEAD or NO LEAD projectiles.

The RULES OF THE RANGE are here for some NOW and appear to be COMING TO OTHERS in the future.

Testing is going on with HI-TEK COATINGS, ELECTROSTATIC POWDER COATING, TUMBLE EPOXY PAINTING and other methods I'm sure.

NO LEADING, LOWER SMOKE, NO LUBE other than the coating itself, LESS MESS ON DIES,

QUICK HIGH VOLUME COATING, and the ABILITY TO RE-HEAT TREAT.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE EXPERIMENTERS OBJECTIVES.

ALONG WITH MAINTAINED REASONABLE ACCURACY.

All Shooters ARE NOT of the BENCHREST variety with their accuracy concerns.
 
your welcome Moonman, happy that I could help.

I shake and bake about 230 150 gr. .38 rnl bullets, which is about 5lbs of alloy.

These bullets I use in loading .38 short colt for ICORE in my 627 8 shot. I was having horrible leading before using HI Tek coating. Now, no leading and excellent accuracy. I'm sold on this coating.

I really like my Breville Smart Oven, Thanks for the tip about this oven. Yeah it was a little pricey but, It was a solid investment. I haven't had any issues in coating bullets due to inconsistent heat. The oven maintains correct even temputure throughout the cycle.
 
Moonman,
I never said anything about benchrest accuracy, although if acceptable accuracy isn't present I wouldn't even bother with it. And my second requirement is expansion at my desired velocity.

The reasons I don't plan on trying anything new right now is:
I'm living on a fixed income and can't really afford it.
I don't shoot competition.
I haven't been shooting much due to my health.
The range I do shoot at doesn't have a problem with exposed lead.
The few people that I still load for have never asked about it, and probably never will, and the rest are all deceased now.

I posted this because I have always been an experimenter and thought others might be too. This way they can get started and if I ever am able to try the new technology, it might save me some time. And I am hoping someone will experiment with "half jackets" too.
 
Tumble coated Klass Kote over a Lee TL358-158-SWC sized to .357" over 12.4gr of AA #9 shot from a M28-2 with a 4" barrel at 15 yards:



Good enough for me. Maybe bullseye shooters would argue with me.
 
shawn mccarver said:
What about long term storage? Is there any effect on powder or priming from this stuff? And, does it leave any kind of bad or harmful residue inside the cases? I am not limiting my inquiry to people-harmful, but also to further reload-harmful with respect to any bad effect on future powder drops, reaction with powder or with primers, etc.
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The Hi-Tek has no effect on powder and priming. In it's cured state it gives off no harmful particulate matter or out-gassing.
 
Shaun,

swamprat runs BAYOU BULLETS.

He'll sell you component to coat with, bullets already coated, or

Answer any of your questions.

Give Donnie a call at Bayou Bullets in Louisiana.
 
i am from northeast ohio and have a casting company and we too are using the hi tek coating which we buy through donnie at bayou. i took a trip down to his shop last july and spent some time with him right before we purchased our casting machines. once we got the coating down and the cook times right our bullets are a nice dark green. this product is amazing and we are selling to many IDPA and USPSA shooters as well as gun show visitors and what i like the most is the reorders once they try them
 
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