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Thinking of a Lee Turret Press
I am not doing as much practice with my Model 60 38/357 revolvers because of the price of ammunition and just bought (today!!!) a Model 69 in 44 mag/44 Special. Talk about sticker shock for the ammo.
After watching a number of videos I am circling the drain on buying a Lee Classic turret press and configuring turrets for each caliber I will be loading. I think I will just manually place primers rather than using a feed tube and the kit I am looking at comes with the auto drum powder measure.
I will probably do 100 - 200 rounds a month and am retired so don't mind sitting a bit and putting some labor into the job. I definitely don't want an automatic press. I like the turret press so I can set up multiple turrets and reuse them without checking all the distances by changing out dies on a single stage press.
Has anyone used the Lee Classic Turret Press? I'd definitely appreciate any resounding pros or cons.
Any thoughts on the Lee auto drum powder measure?
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't owned a Lee Turrent press but I have researched them and may buy one when I retire. They are not as good or costly as Dillons, RCBS, and others but to load two thousand rounds per year I think they would last quite a while and their accessories are reasonably priced and pretty easy to get.
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I have one and reload for 9mm, 40, 45ACP, 38/357, 44spl/mag, .223 and .308 and never had a problem. Smooth, easy to operate and rock solid, No complaints. A good purchase.
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I have a Lyman turret press. I use it as a single stage.. turning that turret 100 times got old....it is nice to have all the dies set up, but i run a stage at a time. I use a Lee priming tool. I did not like using the feed on the press.
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I used one for many years, 9mm, .38 SPL, and .38 Mag, and found it easy to use with no major problems, with one small modification. I replaced the small plastic ratchet collar with one made from metal. It solved a small slippage problem.
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I have a Lyman turret press. I use it as a single stage.. turning that turret 100 times got old....it is nice to have all the dies set up, but i run a stage at a time. I use a Lee priming tool. I did not like using the feed on the press.
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I would concur that turret presses are quite often utilized as single stage presses, possibly more often than not...?
The use of a quick change bushing system (I prefer the Hornady version but the newer LEE system works as well) makes changing a die on a single stage press almost as easy as indexing a turret press: I probably load 75+% of all my reloads on the ol' LEE Classic Single Stage Iron Press with a Hornady bushing conversion.
Cheers!
P.S. I still prefer to hand prime and hand weigh almost all my reloads. More concerned about the quality, safety and reliability of my ammo than production number concerns... Perhaps one (Uh, make that "two", please!) of the aspects of both retirement and reloading I enjoy the most is not being on a schedule or in a hurry?
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I have a Lee single stage press, a 3 hole turret press and a Dillon 550. The Dillon does most of my handgun loading, but I use the Lee's for my lesser fired rifle rounds and things like shot shells and test loads at times.
I think it will serve you well tor what you are interested in doing. I hand feed primers in the Lee's without any problems at all. But I'm not loading hundreds of rounds at a time like I do with the Dillon.
PS: I do tend to use it more like a single stage press with a loading tray. The turret let's you set your dies and leave them set as you change from sizing to seating and crimping, just changing the turret when changing calibers, similar to Dillon tool heads.
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I have been reloading using Lee equipment for 53 years. I'm a user, not a stock holder, so I think I'm qualified to comment. Right now I load 28 calibers. In most of my retirement years I load about 3000 rounds a year, and I haven't worn out anything yet. I understand the blue and green companies are better, but red is good enough for me.
First of all, I don't like a progressive. Too many turrets to buy. Also, for any one caliber I use several different bullet types, so I have to adjust every time. I have 2 of their cheap "Reloader Presses" (paid something like 25 bucks each), so I can prime, flare, powder and bullet seat without changing presses. A poor man's progressive.....LOL.
The second thing I don't like is the auto drum. I use the pro auto disc with micrometer adjustment.
Thirdly, I use one of the old style press mounted safety primers. They are not available now, but I would buy a used one rather than using the current stuff.
Lastly, I hate the breech lock presses. Another thing to have to buy extra parts every time you get new dies. I drilled and pinned the breech fitting in place and JB welded it. Now when I change dies I simply screw them it.
I have always been proactive to crises and issues, and thus have bought supplies ahead of time. I am currently loading 38 spl and .45 Colt for a nickle apiece. Of course that's with home cast lead bullets that basically are free.
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I have a Lee Classic Turret Press . I've been using it for about two years to reload .45ACP , .357 and .38 Special . Using my own brass it costs me about .25 cents per round.
No problems with it so far nor am I anticipating any ...still pleased with the purchase .
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^^^ I use 5 different bullets in .223 - so I made it easy on myself and purchased a seating die for each bullet. The Lee seating dies are cheap enough that it's a no-brainer not to.
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I got a Lee press I bought decades ago. Turret? Holds the turret thingee and has 3 dies on it. I use carbide dies except for rifle. I just loaded some .30-30 the other day. Got sticker shock for the new box of bullets. I mostly load straight case revolver. No longer have any auto pistol dies or components. I am not sure what you save now if you can even find the components you need. Never had a problem with the Lee setup after adjustment. Just that with no "automatic" features you best work with zero distractions, mostly when measuring and loading the powder charge. Double check for empties and double charges. You cannot get a double charge in most rifle cases! Pistols, yea. The only annoyance with the Lee for me is decapping/sizing and the caps either fall down inside the base of the press to be cleaned out later, or occasionally bounce out into the carpet.
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I started out with a Lee Classic Turret kit several years ago. It’s a good little starter setup for low to moderate output. If you’re talking a few hundred rounds a month, it will be perfect and it is very cost effective. I used mine for about 3 years before I stated upgrading to Dillon equipment. Dillon presses are more precise and allow a much higher output. Getting a consistent C.O.A.L. on the Lee was a chore with some cartridges, but when I went to a Dillon 550, it was so much easier.
Some aspects of the Lee Turret like the depriming and the primer feed system frustrated me and after the first 500 or so primed cases with 15 or20 ending up on the floor, I abandoned it completely. I started depriming with a Lee APP press and hand prime with RCBS hand tools. It works well for me because I like to wet tumble the brass after the primers are punched out.
The scale didn’t last long either. I picked up an RCBS 505 at a gun show cheap and it’s been a really great scale.
The auto drum powder dispenser is a step up from the disk system that comes with the kit, but both can get messy. Both were pretty consistent in their powder drops and served me well until I changed over.
Almost everything I’ve bought over the years has been used, and I’ve gotten some incredible deals on just about anything related to reloading. I’ll buy up a bunch of reloading equipment and cherry pick what I want, then sell all my excess stuff to fund it.
The Lee is a good starting point to teach yourself reloading, but start perusing the ads so you can upgrade those aspects of the Lee that you feel have shortcomings.
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I would second that a Lee Autoprime hand primer is the way to go, they are very reasonably priced and you can really feel the primer seating. That is all I've used for years.
My press is a single stage Rockchucker, my powder measure is a Uniflow, but in recent years all I buy is Lee dies with a factory crimp die. They are priced right and work great.
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I looked at the Lee turret, but went with the Classic Cast single-stage instead. I mark my dies with a Sharpie and hardly ever have to futz beyond just screwing them in. I’d have no problem doing 500 a month with this setup.
Note that the Lee turret can be set to auto-advance or not. Might be unique in that aspect.
BTW, I mounted my press on the wall so I can use it while standing - really like that. And this winter I’ve been doing some small test batches with a Lee Hand Press - like that too!
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I am not doing as much practice with my Model 60 38/357 revolvers because of the price of ammunition and just bought (today!!!) a Model 69 in 44 mag/44 Special. Talk about sticker shock for the ammo.
After watching a number of videos I am circling the drain on buying a Lee Classic turret press and configuring turrets for each caliber I will be loading. I think I will just manually place primers rather than using a feed tube and the kit I am looking at comes with the auto drum powder measure.
I will probably do 100 - 200 rounds a month and am retired so don't mind sitting a bit and putting some labor into the job. I definitely don't want an automatic press. I like the turret press so I can set up multiple turrets and reuse them without checking all the distances by changing out dies on a single stage press.
Has anyone used the Lee Classic Turret Press? I'd definitely appreciate any resounding pros or cons.
Any thoughts on the Lee auto drum powder measure?
Thanks in advance.
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I have been using one for 15+ years. I love it. To change calibers, lift the turret off, pu the turret in for the new caliber, and you 95% done. It not pricy. I used carbide dies so no lube necessary
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Get the Lee prime attachment for the press. Or better yet, get the kit.
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I've had 3 Lee turrets. yes they work...great? Not really. The primer feed thing is a bit of a pain...but I prefer a RCBS bench tool. I loaded 44Sp first. dropped powder mainly with Lee dippers. The press worked fine I tried 45 Colt he same way...to be honest it was ok but hardly faster than a single stage.If I could get the primer and powder contraptions to work consistantly....it would definitely be a good buy. Lee has always had good ideas...with the right powder measure and primer feed this would be a great press. There will be some who will say they have no problems...more power to them..I prefer to reload with a progressive than play with the press. I had to buy one of the new 6 Pack Lee progressives. A great idea for a press...but still has the old Lee priming problems. Maybe one day. The Lee Turret is still a fairly well made press. `And worth a look for someone loading 200-300 rounds a month
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Components have not been unobtainable since / during covid, but the price has been a shocker. Currently, the prices have come down. Still not where they should be, but better than factory ammo, availability is a bit spotty, so you have to be patient.
If you cast your own boolits and have pre-covid priced components, handgun loads are about a nickle a round.....12 cents if you had bought bullets.
At current bullet, powder and primer prices, a handgun round should cost about 24 cents.
As far as I've seen, reloading is still cheaper than factory, unless you buy 1000 round cases.
All prices are assumimng you use your own brass.
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If you're seriously thinking of getting started in reloading you might not want to wait too long .
When I got started just a couple of years ago my equipment had sat unused for a year or more because reloading components...primers and powder were pretty much non existent because of shortages.
According to some we could very well be heading into another powder/primer shortage this coming year.
Right now powder and primers are still readily available and at reasonable prices...at least compared to just a year or two ago.
I've spent the last two years purchasing components a little at a time so that I'll not run short if/when another shortage does hit.
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I have reloaded many 9mm rounds over many years using a Lee classic turret press with great results. Eventually, I got a good deal on a used Dillon SDB and sent it back to them for a factory refresh and set-up. The thing is I was so used to my routine with the turret press, I never took the Dillon out of the box.
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There’s a lot of Lee “Kool-Aid drinkers” on here, so this might be a waste of time.
I loaded on a single stage RCBS for years before adding a multi-stage press. I went to the NRA Show in Charlotte, NC in 1999. All the name makers were there and they had their stuff set up so you could load dummy rounds and, thus, give them a test drive.
I have a lot of Lee gear and most of it is great: Lee Loaders, Auto-Prime, powder measures and dippers. But, the presses? No!
They all feel cheap and seem rough. Lots of play between parts that should be tight.
Also, Lee is terrible about parts, service, and warranties. If (when!) it breaks, somehow, it will be your fault. And, they will tell you how dumb you are in the process. The cost of servicing their gear is usually close to the price of just buying a replacement. Gee, what a deal!
Anyhow, back to the NRA show….The folks at Dillon invited me to have free reign with everything from the Square Deal up to the RL 1050. The Square Deal was not too good. You have to really lean on it to resize, and it felt like it would break. The 550 and 650 were perfect. Tough, refined, and smooth.
For the needs of the OP, a 550 would be perfect.
When you buy a Dillon, you get a product built by a company that stands behind it. If you go to sell it, you recoup your investment.
Lee? Well, just go visit the reloading forums and look at the classifieds. Lee stuff is the Pariah with Leprosy! Resale value is almost nil. Are you really “saving money” or getting a “great deal” when nobody will touch their used stuff?
Oh well, just my two cents.
Feel free to gulp down the “Red Kool-Aid” if you prefer!
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I am not doing as much practice with my Model 60 38/357 revolvers because of the price of ammunition and just bought (today!!!) a Model 69 in 44 mag/44 Special. Talk about sticker shock for the ammo.
After watching a number of videos I am circling the drain on buying a Lee Classic turret press and configuring turrets for each caliber I will be loading. I think I will just manually place primers rather than using a feed tube and the kit I am looking at comes with the auto drum powder measure.
I will probably do 100 - 200 rounds a month and am retired so don't mind sitting a bit and putting some labor into the job. I definitely don't want an automatic press. I like the turret press so I can set up multiple turrets and reuse them without checking all the distances by changing out dies on a single stage press.
Has anyone used the Lee Classic Turret Press? I'd definitely appreciate any resounding pros or cons.
Any thoughts on the Lee auto drum powder measure?
Thanks in advance.
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Yessir, I am a BIG fan of the Lee Classic 4-Hole Turret press - for a few reasons.
1) As a new reloader, you can take the auto-advance rod out and use it like a single-stage press until you get a little more comfortable with the process.
2) Once you get more comfortable with reloading, you can drop the auto-advance rod back in, and set up the Auto-Prime system to prime on the press between the resize/deprime and the powder drop stages, and that allows you to use it as a semi-progressive press.
3) Inexpensive and easy swaps of the die holder plates make switching from one caliber to another a breeze. It's basically a "set it and forget it" when you adjust each set of dies. From that point on, switching calibers is as easy as swapping one die-holder plate for another and adjusting your powder measure.
4) For a new reloader, PRICE is a big factor. What if you try it and decide reloading isn't for you? The Lee press is a LOT more affordable than a RCBS or Dillon - because they don't offer anything in between a single-stage press and a full progressive press - and a full progressive setup can get EXPENSIVE.
5) The 4-hole Classic Turret allows you to seat and crimp in separate stages - and even use a Lee Factory Crimp die for crimping. That is viewed as sacrilege and a "crutch" by some of the Dillon/RCBS/Lyman fans, but IMO it is a great way for new reloaders to produce very consistent ammo right out of the gate with much less of a "learing curve".
With the 4-hole Classic Turret you'll never crank out the rounds as fast as you would with a full-on progressive press, but unless you are needing to mass produce a few thousand rounds at a time that isn't a big deal, and a few extra pulls of the handle aren't a big detriment for the new to mid-level experience reloader. Also it is much easier to adjust and set up than a full progressive - especially when changing calibers.
Guess I qualify as one of the Lee Kool-aid drinkers - but it works for me.
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I own 2 Lee Turret Presses One Classic that is maybe 3 years Old & a Older one that's 20 plus years old the old one was converted to the 4 hole Turrets with the bow discontinued update kit,Zero Problems from either one The Classic is much heavier duty compared to the older one,I have all My dies in Turrets so Caliber Changes are quick & easy,I have Dies for .380,9mm,38/357,.44 Magnum,45 ACP,.223,.270,30/06,7mm Rem Mag,45/70,for someone (Like Me) that does not want a full progressive press but wants more speed than a single stage press the Lee Turret Press in a great choice both of mine have a aftermarket LED Light Kit that is a good addition,As Far as the Auto Drum Powder measure I have 3 I use them for Rifle Caliber Loading & just leave the already set measure in each die set ready to go,For Pistol Calibers I use the Deluxe Auto Disk Measure both Measures have been problem free.
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I don't have the turret press but I have five Lee progressive presses that I've owned for probably 35 years. I've cranked out tens of thousands of rounds with them and they've given me little trouble. Occasionally a primer won't feed, which leads to me needing to pull the bullet and dumping the powder back. Otherwise, no issues.
Why five of them? I don't like to mess with a press to change calibers once it's nicely set up.
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I own many presses including two Lee 4 hole Turret presses. I started out with the 3 hole Lee 1000 press when it first came on the market.
I think you will be happy with the Lee Turret press. The plastic parts that make it index are something you will want to have spares on hand because they wear out and fail every 2 - 3 thousand rounds. Otherwise a well designed tool for the price.
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I bought a Lee Turret press in 1988. It is still running. I upgraded to a 4 hole kit. Priming is not smooth but I find it isn't on anything Lee. I don't use it as often as I used to but it still runs okay. I go through the plastic gizmos that have it advance as they are a wear item. For me it was a good press as an in-between a progressive and a single stage.
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Lee 4 hole Turret
The Lee 4 hole turret is a really great press to start reloading on if your new to the process, or don't want to spend two mortgage payments on a reloading press
I don't drink kool-aid...I make my choices on fact and performance.
I have had two of these presses for well over 10 years and have loaded 10's of thousands of rounds on them with little to no issues.
I could load 50 rounds in about 18-20 minutes give or take, taking my time and not being in a hurry (about 150-175 p/hr). I did this every morning before going to work for close to 10 years.....lots of bullets thought this press, I still use them regularly in retirement.
They are well made, fairly simple to set up and use, and are reasonably priced. Yes you can buy something much more expensive but why.... If it works, and serves your needs
I would buy a turret for each Caliber. I have .380. 9mil, 38/357, 45 colt, 45acp 38 super, and .223. I have never had problems with any of them.
I like the disc system for powder drops better than the auto drum and have used the micro adjustable auto drum as well. Depending on powder your using the discs deliver very consistent powder drops. I have had no real problems with the priming on this press
The little "UFO" light for this press is a game changer for old eyes
I have nothing but good things to say about Lee Customer Service
when calling with questions or buying turrets or the little plastic replacement indexing part for the 4 hole turret. They are made to be replaced at some interval and they are usually around 1$
apiece
I also have a Lee Load Master. I would not recommend this press
It is complicated and has major issues with the priming system
I have loaded many many thousands of rounds on this press as well, but it is not user friendly alot of the time. If your really mechanically inclined, you can get it to work, but it is problematic
It has been discontinued and has been replaced by the 6 pack.
I just bought a six pack from Lee, on a upgrade deal.... and they gave me a sweat heart deal on it, due to the ongoing issues with the Load master.
They did not give me any **** about it.... they were in fact, quite helpful and friendly about the whole thing . I have not set up the 6 pack yet.
you can't go wrong with the 4 hole turret
Primers and Powder are not going to get cheaper or more available
get it while you can
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I've had two Lee turrets over the past 30 years. The original, a three die, was sold to a coworker so he could get his cowboy action ammo for a good cost. It was replaced by a four die press. I removed the rotator stem and use it a a four-position single stage for half a dozen different pistol and revolver calibers. Each has it's own turret, using RCBS carbide dies and Lee taper crimps. I have an Auto Load power measure on a separate single Lee press. All I have to change is the powder micrometer, and move the cases back and forth to a couple of loading trays. Not terribly fast, but accurate and fast enough for my needs.
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I looked at the Lee turret, but went with the Classic Cast single-stage instead. I mark my dies with a Sharpie and hardly ever have to futz beyond just screwing them in. I’d have no problem doing 500 a month with this setup.
Note that the Lee turret can be set to auto-advance or not. Might be unique in that aspect.
BTW, I mounted my press on the wall so I can use it while standing - really like that. And this winter I’ve been doing some small test batches with a Lee Hand Press - like that too!
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I used to use Lee Turrets but years ago, I set up three Lee single-stage presses as I can alter them for any of the calibres that I use (pistol/Rifle) in a couple of minutes and they are ready to run. Dave_n
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I have been using the Lee Classic turret press for 8 years to reload 38 45 40. It is a 4 hole turret. If you use it correctly you wont mess up the plastic indexing square. However if you mess the square up and it stops not indexing Lee will send you one free. Get the auto prime. It doesn't cost much and makes the job easier if you have arthritis. As for the the Auto drum powder it works well. Meters W231 great. Keep your eye on the drops though as a safety measure. I check every 15 to 20 rounds and have not had an issue. Usually it is still right on the money.
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For somebody like you who loads a few hundred rounds a year , a Lee press or any turret press is fine. I have a couple of turret presses but for my volume I use Dillon progressives. They would be a waste of money for your volume.
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I have been using a 3-die Lee turret press for over 30 years to load handgun ammo. It's not as fast or fancy as a progressive press, but it works just fine.
I prefer to clean my brass and hand prime, so I size/decap on a single stage (RCBS), then tumble the brass. I hand prime with a Lee hand prime tool, which gives an opportunity to inspect the brass. Once it's primed, it's ready for the turret press.
On the press, 1st station is an Auto disc powder measure. Inexpensive and accurate enough for most pistol loads. 2nd station is the seating die, and 3rd station crimping, if I am crimping separately (eg, taper crimp). Easy to hand rotate the turret for each step.
Certainly, there are more complex, faster and/or expensive ways to load your handgun ammo, but the Lee Turret works just fine. Mine has produced many thousands of rounds over the decades.
One really nice thing is that I can leave a caliber set up on it's own turret, and all I have to move is the powder measure, so switching calibers on the press takes only a minute or two.
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I’ve been running a Lee Classic Turret press for about 12 years now and have been very pleased with it. You won’t be disappointed. I load .38 Special, .357, 9mm, .45 ACP, .44 Special and .223. Probably have loaded around 60,000 rounds with it.
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If you have a little reloading experience, the new six pack pro is worth a look.
I've been working with one lately. I have about 4000 rounds through it and it's running remarkably well.
It's still a little "young" but I'll sign off on it as being worth consideration.
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If you have a little reloading experience, the new six pack pro is worth a look.
I've been working with one lately. I have about 4000 rounds through it and it's running remarkably well.
It's still a little "young" but I'll sign off on it as being worth consideration.
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I hadn't heard about this new press. Looks like a full-on progressive.
Price is getting up there pretty close to Lyman/Dillon/RCBS territory though - at least it is on the Lee site. Others may be selling it at a discount below Lee MSRP though.
Gonna have to look into this one!
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I hadn't heard about this new press. Looks like a full-on progressive.
Price is getting up there pretty close to Lyman/Dillon/RCBS territory though - at least it is on the Lee site. Others may be selling it at a discount below Lee MSRP though.
Gonna have to look into this one!
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it is a full on progressive.
where lee keeps taking nickles out of a design till it wont work, then puts a dime back in, they put in a couple of quarters on this one.
I think they are trying to be taken seriously.
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They are also coming ou with a Ultimate turret press, 3,4,5,6 stations. Better handle and case ejector.
I have been using a LCT for years and find myself using it more than my Hornady LnL progressive. The turret is much easier to change calibers and primer sizes.
I shoot a lot of calibers and not mass quantities of one kind.
Lee Precision, Inc.. Ultimate Turret Press
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I expect to see that die plate in the six pack in the future.
Caliber change is a little painful, but primer change is easier than their hand tools, and actually reliable for a change
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I started reloading 9mm in college using an RCBS Rock Chucker single stage. Quit after a few years, and packed it up in storage. A while back, 40 years later and retired, I got it out of storage and began reloading .38 and .45 ACP. Decided I no longer liked having to handle each cartridge multiple times. My shooting buddy has a couple of Dillon presses, and urged me to go that direction. I used his a couple times, and decided I'd rather go with a Lee Classic Turret. No regrets at all. The couple of times I called them for advice or service, they were great to deal with. I use Lee carbide dies, the primer that attaches to the press, and the auto drum powder dispenser.
To the OP, if you're still following your thread, if you go with the Lee spend just a few bucks and get a KMS squared UFO light kit. Worth every penny.
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There’s a lot of Lee “Kool-Aid drinkers” on here, so this might be a waste of time.
Oh well, just my two cents.
Feel free to gulp down the “Red Kool-Aid” if you prefer!
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My perception of drinking coolade is when you promote a product that ain't so good and you don't know the difference. After using the red stuff for over 50 years I can't say I've ever been disappointed.
My classic cast press is tight and well built. Now, I only load about 3000 rounds a year, so maybe if I was in the dillon class of high volume it would have broken already.
One time I used some old nickle brass and they disintegrated, scratching the die. Lee replaced them (or refurbished, I dunno) for free. My experience with their customer service has been excellent.
Only on one single time did I have a plastic part break. Probably my fault. I ordered a replacement part for a couplabucks and received it in short order.
I have no intention of selling my stuff, so resale value is of no concern. I hear from other coolaiders that some of the new dies are superior. But since my Lee .38 Spl dies from 1971 are still turning out good ammo, I guess I don't need to upgrade.
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I have some gripes with Lee, but I have plenty of their stuff. I have a Lee Classic Cast press that I like. My gripe is their standard die lock rings. I hate those things. So I replace them. Factor in the cost of the replacements and their stuff's not that cheap.
The newer spline drive breech lock rings are $5 a piece with shipping, adding $15-$20 to the cost of dies. All of a sudden Lee dies aren't any cheaper. Of course I guess they are because you'd have to buy the rings for any other brand of dies.
I'd prefer a press without the breech lock quick-change. It's not like it really saves you a lot of time if you have locking rings installed on your dies. How long does it take to screw a die in? 10 seconds?
Yes, you can install a bushing on the press and just leave it there, but that has issues too. The original ones have such a thin flange at the top that the locking notch gets wallowed out and loose over time. I guess you could leave one of the locking spline drives installed. But I hate having a feature that costs more, doesn't really do anything, and requires awkward work-arounds.
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I like to evaluate some of the Lee offerings.
They are our entry level brand, like it or not.
Lee C frame press, powder measure, scale, dies and components ... you're making ammo.
Climbing up the product ladder, there have been some progressives certainly not worth consideration.
6 pack pro, so far, seems to be their apology.
The die bushing argument?!?! ... valid. They are a bit annoying.
The O ring friction fit type can let a die walk over longer production runs, while the locking ones interfere with each other in the press head.
Autodrum measure .... to be honest, it tracks better than I had anticipated and the powder bottle compatibility is a cute feature.
Where Lee always took nickles out of a design till it broke, then put a dime back in, I'd like to see a few more dimes put into the auto drum.
But it DOES work
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I started reloading about 40 or so years ago with a Lee "wack-a-mole" Loader in 38 Special and have basically used nothing but Lee since then. Oh, a piece or two from some other manufacturer once in a while, but basically it's Lee.
I had a Turret press back when they first came out. No problems with it all. I suppose I used iit more as a single-stage press. I'd resize all, then rotate the turret to the next station and start over on the next. I sold it when I quit shooting for about 30 years or so and went to chasing little green fish all over the place.
When I got back to shooting, I didn't have the room for a reloading bench so I got a Lee Hand Press, and am quite happy with it. I load 38/357, 9mm, 44 Special with it now. I have done others in the past. I've got some kind of Lee Powder measure...an adjustable one, but I've forgotten what they call it. Been using it for years. I can't say I load a LOT of ammo, but 100 or so a week is about right. A lot of my ammo, like 38 wadcutters, I just use the little dipper that's right for the load.
Pretty much what it looked like right after the UPS truck dropped it off. Perfect Powder measure...that's what they call it.
I've added an electronic scale, and a case vibrator, and few other odds and ends. It all fits into a desk drawer when not being used.
Well, except the vibrator. It goes on the floor in a closet.
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I have a Lee Turret Press that has been flawless for years. Sure not the fastest. I have die plates for .38/.357, 9mm, .40. .45 ACP, .45 Colt, and .44 Magnum. Saves on resetting dies.
Only load when there no distractions. No issues. Bob
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I was given a Lee Hand Press Kit for Christmas in 1984. I still use it.
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I started with a Lyman Spar-T press when I switched from a Lyman 310 Tool. I then was enamored with a Dillon Progressive Square Deal B. I then got a good deal on a Lyman T-Mag Turret press. The turret head is changeable in less than 2 minutes and I had six turrets for it. In pistol calibers that is two different calibers per head. So, I have 12 different calibers ready to go in short notice. I only load for twelve calibers as of right now. If I decide to increase my calibers all I have to do is buy more heads. Solid steel and built tough, never had a problem. Did crack the aluminum Dillon frame once........
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I bought a Lee Classic Turret 4 hole press three years ago and have reloaded about 15k rounds of 38spl & 357. I think it was the perfect choice for me to start on and have been very happy with it. After tumbling & polishing(300-400) I decap single stage & bag for next session. I don't use the primer auto feed because after I set it up I soon knocked it off by accident (empty thankfully) and I've read they can be problematic feeding sometimes. I prime by hand using single stage with the rod removed usually 200 at a sitting, loading next session. After priming I can load about 100 an hour weighing every fifth powder throw on the beam scale. Doing things in stages speeds up the loading process and simplifies the process and helps reduce mistakes in my case. You'll figure out what works best for you. KISS(keep it simple, stupid) works for me. Get yourself a couple good reloading manuals. Good luck and enjoy yourself. Here's my station.
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