REGISTERED MAGNUM NUMBER 379, DOCUMENTS FROM THE SWHF

ditrina · Aug 23, 2012

Thank you to the SWHF for saving the history of our Smith and Wessons..

Without them, this information would have been lost.. FOREVER!!
IF YOU CAN, PLEASE MAKE AN EFFORT TO JOIN.. IT'S A ONE TIME FEE ( TAX DEDUCTABLE

) AND HISTORY IS PRESERVED...

First the letter from Mr. Jinks..

While the grips are out being restored by DWFAN here she is wearing Ivories..

That was the tip of the Iceberg.. This is the information from the SWHF..

RKmesa · Aug 23, 2012

Sal:

Very coooooool! Please add a photo of the RM as well so that we can see it as it stands today.

Thanks for sharing,

KJM · Aug 23, 2012

Sal-

THAT is very very nice addition to a standard letter huh????
Wow.

rags · Aug 23, 2012

Yeah, YEAH! You did well!!!!!!!

mbliss57 · Aug 23, 2012

That is awesome Sal.. we need to give the SWHF more $$$ so they can get their records digitized in to the 50's and 60's...where some of my prizes are

Or I need to get e REG Magnum.... because it's all about me

Mike

DCWilson · Aug 23, 2012

I love it when the SWHF turns up rich record sets like that! I got copies of the order and invoice for an early .38/44 Outdoorsman from the Foundation, and they make a great supplement to the Letter that came to me from Roy Jinks.

I love the urgency expressed on behalf of Mr. Lambert. The man needs a quick-draw, short-barrel high-powered revolver right now. I guess the concrete block business in 1940 was a little rougher than the construction supplies sector is today.

Sal, does the King sight base have the usual embedded reflector? Seems to me such a design wouldn't have much point since the blade is a ramp sight. Light reflected back up would slide right across the surface of the ramp without illuminating it much at all.

ditrina · Aug 23, 2012

DCWilson said:
I love it when the SWHF turns up rich record sets like that! I got copies of the order and invoice for an early .38/44 Outdoorsman from the Foundation, and they make a great supplement to the Letter that came to me from Roy Jinks.

I love the urgency expressed on behalf of Mr. Lambert. The man needs a quick-draw, short-barrel high-powered revolver right now. I guess the concrete block business in 1940 was a little rougher than the construction supplies sector is today.

Sal, does the King sight base have the usual embedded reflector? Seems to me such a design wouldn't have much point since the blade is a ramp sight. Light reflected back up would slide right across the surface of the ramp without illuminating it much at all.

Thank you sir.. it was a great surprise to find that many records..

If you look close Mr. Lambert was the Superintendent of a COAL MINING company..

As for the reflective sight ..no it had a plain ramp..

DCWilson · Aug 23, 2012

D'oh! I'm an idiot!

I saw the word "block" and stopped thinking. Stopped reading too, apparently.

Yes, coal. That would certainly explain it.

JayCeeNC · Aug 23, 2012

That area was Hatfield and McCoy territory.
The coal mining towns were pretty rough back in those days, I'm told.
I have a 2d Model .44 HE which shipped to Pike Co., KY, just a few miles down the road. in 1927.

ParadiseRoad · Aug 23, 2012

JayCeeNC said:
That area was Hatfield and McCoy territory.
The coal mining towns were pretty rough back in those days, I'm told.
I have a 2d Model .44 HE which shipped to Pike Co., KY, just a few miles down the road. in 1927.

...back in those days the miners, mine owners, and unions were all at each others throats...

...according to James L. Ballou's book "Rock in a Hard Place" the Bluefield Hardware ordered and sold 25 Browning Automatic Rifles between 1919 AND 1922...

CptCurl · Aug 24, 2012

Anybody know what happened to the humpback hammer?

Wonderful provenance! Congratulations.

Doc44 · Aug 24, 2012

Sal...thanks for posting the photos of the documents and for the kind words about the S&WHF!!! It is always a pleasure when we can provide the "missing history" about a particular gun or group of guns. We don't always turn up this much information, but you never know until you do a search.

Bill

Engine49guy · Aug 24, 2012

CptCurl said:
Anybody know what happened to the humpback hammer?

Wonderful provenance! Congratulations.

I was wondering about that too,
It appears there is no quote for the work or the part from S&W and that the hand written notation didnt make it to the final letter or the gun, Did the handler overlook the customers request to S&W ?

ditrina · Aug 24, 2012

Engine49guy said:
I was wondering about that too,
It appears there is no quote for the work or the part from S&W and that the hand written notation didnt make it to the final letter or the gun, Did the handler overlook the customers request to S&W ?

Great question.. but I don't think we will ever know at this point..

Here is a close up of the hammer that is on the gun..

My question is what hammer is it?? The hammer looks correct .. until I realized that the U.S. Pat Roll mark is missing on the backbone of the hammer..

Now we do know that the gun went back to the factory in..June of 1947 and again in September of 1950.. based on the dates stamped on the grip..

What we don't know is what was done at those times..

If anyone has information on this hammer without the U.S. Pat. roll mark, please share your thoughts..

Thanks..

410bore · Aug 24, 2012

i believe it is called a concentric hammer....with the grooves on the sides....thats all i know

rags · Aug 24, 2012

410bore said:
i believe it is called a concentric hammer....with the grooves on the sides....thats all i know

Thus, you have a "Groovy" hammer!

ditrina · Aug 24, 2012

-rags- said:
Thus, you have a "Groovy" hammer!

not the answer I was looking for but....very small rinshot

bmg60 · Aug 24, 2012

I have a answer for you.
the hammer that is installed is a post war Transition Hammer from a 357 Transition. If you look at the picture it shows a cutout for the post war hammer block.
this hammer was installed when it went back to the factory in 1947.
I hope this helps.
Jim Fisher

ditrina · Aug 24, 2012

bmg60 said:
I have a answer for you.
the hammer that is installed is a post war Transition Hammer from a 357 Transition. If you look at the picture it shows a cutout for the post war hammer block.
this hammer was installed when it went back to the factory in 1947.
I hope this helps.
Jim Fisher

And THIS ladies and Gentlemen is why we LOVE THIS PLACE..

Jim.. thanks so much for clearing that up.. Now do I leave it or replace it with the correct hammer?? ..

Interesting question.. as a "Newbie" in this RM arena, I am not sure what the answer is..

But I do know that I want to preserve S&W History..

Thanks
Sal

RKmesa · Aug 25, 2012

Sal:

Keep your eyes open, but RM hammers come along very infrequently. But with your luck, in the next week or two, you'll probably find a pristine HBH at your local antiques store for $50.

All the best,

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