Insane Prices on Gun Broker for a 25-5

I started out a month or so ago looking for a 4" 25-5. Aware of the chamber throat thing, I shifted gears to something in the 29 line because the risk was just too high on a distance purchase. Ask a seller if he knows the throat diameters on his .45 and his eyes roll back, either because he doesn't know, or he DOES know. It seems almost irresponsible or suspect to offer a 25-5 without some reassuring info about the throats, or a 624 without mentioning the Circle C.

I'm surprised lately to see a 'head-on' approach to deception. Show a photo of the flaw, but under-describe it in the text. Call a pit a "freckle;" make sure a scuff is on a glare point but still visible; back up from the thick white cylinder line and call it the "usual turn line" -- that's evil genius right there -- and when you're called on it, claim you made disclosure. List the manufacturer's features rather than a description of the conditon (white outline, red ramp, 3Ts...). Deflect, distract, delay. The biggest catch-all bucket of all is "handling wear." Handled by me means it's like new, but by others, it could be anything. Past a certain pointit's called 'character.' Not even percentages mean much any more -- if you say it's 95%, tell me about the missing 5 and forget the rest.
 
My all time favorite description..... MINTY.

Just today at my FFL I was sending out a 6" blued Python I sold for a friends Family on GB. Got $2525 for it.

While I was there he showed me a absolutely perfect early Colt Diamondback, a nickle gun, .38 special in SIX inch. It had just arrived for a fellow who bought it off of GA or GB. Buyer paid $3100+ for the gun! And....Not even a BOX!

Crazy times we are living in. Great to be a SELLER.
 
I started out a month or so ago looking for a 4" 25-5. Aware of the chamber throat thing, I shifted gears to something in the 29 line because the risk was just too high on a distance purchase. Ask a seller if he knows the throat diameters on his .45 and his eyes roll back, either because he doesn't know, or he DOES know. It seems almost irresponsible or suspect to offer a 25-5 without some reassuring info about the throats, or a 624 without mentioning the Circle C.

I'm surprised lately to see a 'head-on' approach to deception. Show a photo of the flaw, but under-describe it in the text. Call a pit a "freckle;" make sure a scuff is on a glare point but still visible; back up from the thick white cylinder line and call it the "usual turn line" -- that's evil genius right there -- and when you're called on it, claim you made disclosure. List the manufacturer's features rather than a description of the conditon (white outline, red ramp, 3Ts...). Deflect, distract, delay. The biggest catch-all bucket of all is "handling wear." Handled by me means it's like new, but by others, it could be anything. Past a certain pointit's called 'character.' Not even percentages mean much any more -- if you say it's 95%, tell me about the missing 5 and forget the rest.

Well put. Bigger auction hammer prices are fueling this problem. The market needs to wisen up.
 
Great time to be a seller!! I'm at the point age-wise that I should start selling down the iron pile. The current frenzy is really making me antsy.

One thing that I've also noticed is more dead-beat bidders who can't pay their bid.
 
Great time to be a seller!! I'm at the point age-wise that I should start selling down the iron pile.

I realized a few years ago that my ratio of time spent "researching/accumulating/buying" to "shooting" these damn things was way out of whack.

California has a limitation on the number of in-state "private party" sales per year - 5. No limit on the number of guns per transaction, but that did cause me to hit the brakes (a little).

--Neill
 
I started out a month or so ago looking for a 4" 25-5. Aware of the chamber throat thing, I shifted gears

I learned about the chamber mismatch after trading into a 25-5 in 4", a 3 screw Ruger 4 5/8" 41 Mag was my trade away item. I'm thinking sucker. He's thinking I can't believe this sucker didn't ask about the accuracy.

It did not shoot groups it shot patterns. Luckily the gent I got it from saw me at a later gun show and wanted it back. He traded me a Manlicher Schoenour in 22-250.

That feller was good to me, after I had a gun smith drill and tap the red loc tited scope mount buggered head screws I traded it for a high 97-98% pre 64 Model 70 Standard in 270 Win.

I sold it for enough to buy a couple of S&W revolvers, neither of which was a model 25-anything.

I too ended up with several 629's and a 29-2. A S&W sort of has that old school feel when one adds 44 to it.

All of this just because I wanted a 25-5 in 4".
 
Over the past year or so, almost ALL on-line gun prices have gone through the ceiling and there are many people who have just put insane prices on their guns for sale in the hopes that during the gun craze people will pay just about anything. In many instances especially for guns in excellent condition their hunch paid off - big time!
 
I started out a month or so ago looking for a 4" 25-5. Aware of the chamber throat thing, I shifted gears to something in the 29 line because the risk was just too high on a distance purchase....

And the oversized throat situation for 29s and 629s doesn't bother you?

First big bore revolver i ever had was a large throated 25-5. Was easier to sort than the .44s as Winchester bullets were the right size and Lyman still sold 454424 moulds. Which cast nicely at 0.456". And shot very well.

Getting the 0.433" bullet situation sorted has been much harder. Durn things fit the throats of my old .44s (pre-1990s) well before loading, but the cartridges won't hardly chamber without lots of tinkering!
 
There are dumb buys on the auctions, great buy, amazing and ok ones.. I've had plenty of amazing but you have to look.. I just bought a 25-3 125th for 1k of course unfired and complete package time capsule. Some would say bad buy not me. A new Model 25 today retails for over a grand and it is not legal rostered in Cali where a 25-3 125th is a Curio Relic and a beautifully finished gun imo. It filled a hole in my collection without going into detail...And no offense anyone but the finish on the new Smiths are not as nice as the older ones... What I am seeing as a general rule is the really nice guns complete near perfect are expensive and people buy them.. This 25? Hey there were several people that wanted it and one lucky winner. They see something we didn't or they had a need we don't understand. Ben - the 19-3 at 1500.. Is that really outrageous? OK I wouldn't pay it today but what is it really worth right now assuming it is complete 99 plus? 1000? 1300? If one is looking for a Combat version 2 1/2 when will the next pop up like this and how much... What is it worth in 12 months 300 or 500 more than today. Will 1500 in 2015 be a good buy for this 19... The buyer thought so... Time is an evil woman that leaves bruises...
 
I realized a few years ago that my ratio of time spent "researching/accumulating/buying" to "shooting" these damn things was way out of whack.

California has a limitation on the number of in-state "private party" sales per year - 5. No limit on the number of guns per transaction, but that did cause me to hit the brakes (a little).

--Neill

Neil - I don't believe California has any limitation on PPT. As many as you want legal.. A C/R holder is under a different level of scrutiny where transfers and sales are concerned; however a 00 3 holder can buy sell as many guns as they like to improve their collection. The limitation comes if one is selling like a dealer for the purpose of turning a profit as an ongoing business.
 
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