New to me 36

Benello

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I have seen a few threads about the model 36 lately, and coincidentally, I also have recently found a 36 of my own that appears to be a great example. Based on my research through emailing the S&W historical foundation, my serial number 388XXX, shipped out in early to mid 1965. Although the grips are not original, they are in excellent shape as is the rest of the pistol. I’m learning about the flat latch variants, and why it was utilized, which is neat to think they tried everything they could to make it as streamlined as possible for concealed carry at the time. Apparently, they would go on to change the latch in another year or so after mine was built.

I still can’t get over how these old Smith and Wessons are so well fit and finished, with some of the most beautiful blueing and attention to detail on any pistol of the era. This one did not come with a box or paperwork, but it was well kept as it appears to have been barely shot. The internals are super clean and the lock-up and timing are both excellent.

I may try to hunt down a period-correct set of grips as these grips were probably made a few years later (I need to take them off and check the serial number to know when they are from) though these newer style ones look fine to me. Who knows though maybe I’ll even get some stag grips.

 
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My 1969 had the common concave checkered latch that would chew up my thumb during recoil. I finally got fed up and replaced it with the early flat "Tic-Tac" shaped latch, which eliminated the problem. It did require replacement of the bolt as well, for it uses a completely different screw with an external thread.
 
That's a nice looking Chiefs Special. Congratulations.

Based on seeing 387647 and 390306 in the database, which both
shipped in May 1965, I would guess yours would be near there.

The stocks on yours began in late 1968 and ran through the early
1990s. S&W stopped stamping serial numbers on the back of the
right stock in or around 1982.

The Chiefs in the photos have the stocks you need. S&W shipped
the stainless Model 60 in October 1965 and the Model 36 in
November 1966. The date on the order to eliminate diamonds
around the escutcheons January 11, 1966, but it took until about
1968 to run out of inventory.

S&W's order to change from flat to contoured thumbpiece is
dated February 11, 1966. No Model 60 had a flat thumbpiece.
 

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I put in a WTB ad for the Magna diamonds thanks for the idea. I think the grips around the early to mid 60s j-frames used the black washer/disc instead of the silver washer/disc correct?
 
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I put in a WTB ad for the Magna diamonds thanks for the idea. I think the grips around the early to mid 60s j-frames used the black washer/disc instead of the silver washer/disc correct?

You are correct, the earlier grips had blued (black) washers, vs. the silver-finished washers installed on the grips on newer guns (like the set on your gun).

The more distinctive feature about the earlier grips was that they had a diamond-shaped un-checkered area around the grip screw.

That is why they are referred to as "diamond" magnas...
 
Thanks for the info. I had it backwards I thought the silver washers pre dated the black ones. When did the black washer change to silver exactly?
 
The change occurred about the time the K frame stainless guns were introduced.

For someone who has spent years on this forum and has absorbed a lot of S&W history, that answer may pinpoint the date of the changeover very nicely.

For someone new to all things S&W, like the OP, that answer means next to nothing, and is totally unhelpful.

Just sayin'...
 
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Nice 36 no dash - good snag

Benello, That is a very nice looking Model 36 no dash. I see most everyone is confirming a 1965 shipment and I would agree based on the flat latch.

I am very unsure about the grip situation. Most info and experts say the non diamond grips didn't start until sometime in 1968 although the order to change was January 11, 1966. Same with the flat latch change to contoured, order given February 11, also 1966, but I don't think anyone actually knows the exact date of the first contoured new style went out the door.

My Model 36 no dash has always been a mystery to me. I acquired the gun from a estate sale whereby the original owner had passed and the auctioneer did not have any details. The gun came with non diamond grips, right panel not numbered at all, right panel silver washer, left panel black washer and the left panel has a "painted" number of some sort although I can only make out a 7 and a 0 and not much else. My gun (s/n 501664) also has a contoured latch.

My gun shipped in January 1967 per Roy Jinks, and since it is in original box, seemingly unfired condition when I acquired it with docs and vapor paper..........I always thought that the grips COULD BE original to the gun and same with the contoured latch...simply because the order to change was given a year earlier and who knows what the assembling craftsmen did at time of assembly. Maybe grabbing grips from different bins, yet mine seem to be "bookended" like the same piece of wood, but different washers.

Anyway.........for me........I have to look for period correct diamond Magna grips, yet knowing even if I find them they will not be numbered to the gun.

Has anyone ever seen a left panel with painted numbers on S&W revolvers?
 

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