Didn't Smith reintroduce the Model 3 Schofield?

riptrack44 · Sep 28, 2008

I'm assuming it's as rare as 'hen's teeth'. I know they limited their production numbers and the retail price was astronomical. I check Gunbroker now and then and I've never seen one for sale/auction. I'm sure Uberti took a lot of the wind out of Smith's sails/sales with their clone. Anybody own one or ever shot one? I think it would be cool in a Smith collection...

riptrack44 · Sep 28, 2008

I'm assuming it's as rare as 'hen's teeth'. I know they limited their production numbers and the retail price was astronomical. I check Gunbroker now and then and I've never seen one for sale/auction. I'm sure Uberti took a lot of the wind out of Smith's sails/sales with their clone. Anybody own one or ever shot one? I think it would be cool in a Smith collection...

feralmerril · Sep 28, 2008

I know they did, dont know if they still do. I read a write up some time ago I think in sixguns of the west, and if I remember right for some reason I think they favored the cimmerron. I seen one for sale a few weeks ago, but didnt look close to see which one it was.

Muley Gil · Sep 28, 2008

I have shot the one that a fellow Forum member owns.

It's a fun gun!

44 Shooter · Sep 29, 2008

I have a Beretta Laramie. It's fun to have a #3 clone you can shoot and abuse. It is accurate and well made. I wish it was a .44 instead of .45.
Mike Spradlin
NRA Life

ladder13 · Sep 29, 2008

They reintroduced the Schofield in 2000, I believe. Only lasted a year or two.
I have a Navy Arms copy, a 5 inch Wells Fargo model.

Mike
SWCA 1975

5Wire · Sep 29, 2008

There is an engraved model currently available

Link

Andy Griffith · Sep 29, 2008

They stopped making it because it didn't sell.
Why? Because it was too expensive.
It was too expensive because it was very time consuming to manufacture. Etc, etc.

I have a couple of them, and yes, they don't come up for sale very often. Just look around.

I should have bought a nickel W.F. & Company one when they were available from Lew Horton- but I got a blue one instead.

mm6mm6 · Sep 29, 2008

I bought mine, new in the presentation box for $1350 through a Forum member here. For a Performance Center gun, made with a ton of hands on work, and as the first break top S&W has made in forever, I think the price was pretty good.

I love mine! I did put a set of Buffalo Brothers faux ivory grips on it, but I have the original wood ones in the box. I also had an El Paso Saddlery 1870 floral carved holster made up for it.

This .45 Schofield was my Grail Gun.

Here's video of me shooting it. It's the revolver on my right hip:

There were 2600 7", 200 5" (blue and nickel), and 125 engraved/gold commemoratives made from 2000-2002 and that was it. So yep, they're pretty rare. I looked and looked for one everyone without luck. tjpopkin (Terry) put me onto one and I am forever thankful.

-Steve

Stainz · Sep 29, 2008

The Italian clones are available in .44 Russian, too. The early ones had a fire-welded finger rest on the finger guard - it reportedly would come off all too easily. Later variants had it forged as a single piece. I watched a Navy Arms older #3 in .44 Russian locally start at $599 five years ago - go up to $700+ with the all of the attendant price increases over the years. Heck, my new 617 just cost me $40 more than my new 629 did three years earlier. Imagine what that 2001 Heritage .45 Schofield would run today... it's nearly $2k MSRP then would be double that today. Most folks never noticed the lacking of .45 S&W ammo - most of the ones sold went into 'collections' - or safes. When they dumped them, the CAS crowd gobbled them up - I should have, too! Hind sight.

A .44 Russian is still on my list...

Stainz

Repellere · Sep 29, 2008

I can't tell from the photos. Do these come with an internal lock? Or do I have to take the flag out and grind down the nub and then fill in the hole left on the side of the frame?

riptrack44 · Sep 30, 2008

Originally posted by mm6mm6:
I bought mine, new in the presentation box for $1350 through a Forum member here. For a Performance Center gun, made with a ton of hands on work, and as the first break top S&W has made in forever, I think the price was pretty good.

I love mine! I did put a set of Buffalo Brothers faux ivory grips on it, but I have the original wood ones in the box. I also had an El Paso Saddlery 1870 floral carved holster made up for it.

This .45 Schofield was my Grail Gun.

Here's video of me shooting it. It's the revolver on my right hip:

There were 2600 7", 200 5" (blue and nickel), and 125 engraved/gold commemoratives made from 2000-2002 and that was it. So yep, they're pretty rare. I looked and looked for one everyone without luck. tjpopkin (Terry) put me onto one and I am forever thankful.

-Steve

Your video clip looked like a SAS shoot. I'd still be a member if I didn't have to drive 100 miles (one way) to go to a meet...

tennexplorer · Sep 30, 2008

Originally posted by Glockist:
I can't tell from the photos. Do these come with an internal lock? Or do I have to take the flag out and grind down the nub and then fill in the hole left on the side of the frame?

No lock. That is a really long sideplate screw. In a wonderful blend of 19th and 20th century technology, the HKS Model 29 speedloader works great with them. You can really amaze people. Snicker.

semperfi71 · Sep 30, 2008

I always enjoy mm6mm6's photos of his S&W Schofield. Great photography and a great gun.

If an individual got in on the original sales he/she now has a gun that has grown in "equity". And, with some shopping around I suspect a person could find one for a reasonable price still.

For shooting pleasure the Uberti clones of the Schofield, 3rd Model Russian, and Laramie [New Model #3 clone, sort of], can't be beat. I have copies of all three.

The S&W is surely a pleasure to shoot as well, but I suspect that in a few short more years they will become very pricey and maybe should be held in "reserve" as safe queens. something I don't do.

cubrock · Oct 1, 2008

Saw one at a recent local show. NIB. Asking price was close to 2 grand. They are neat, but not that neat. I could buy any number of working original #3s and still have money left over at that price.

RonC · Oct 1, 2008

Riptrack,

If you're seriously wanting one, a fellow Forum member has one for sale at $1350, including the presentation box and paperwork. I was talking with him about it, but am not sure when I can get it. Contact Roy and see if you can get it. Here's the thread where it's listed:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/511103904/m/8821034613

Regards,
Ron

riptrack44 · Oct 2, 2008

Originally posted by RonC:
Riptrack,

If you're seriously wanting one, a fellow Forum member has one for sale at $1350, including the presentation box and paperwork. I was talking with him about it, but am not sure when I can get it. Contact Roy and see if you can get it. Here's the thread where it's listed:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/511103904/m/8821034613

Regards,
Ron

Thanks for the heads-up. Money is a little tight at the moment. I'm waiting for one of the big retailers to get one and then trade them a very nice 1915 Mauser Luger or a pristine Nazi Black Widow Luger plus some extra.

moosedog · Oct 2, 2008

Hows the quality on the Navy Arms models? I saw one today with the cut down barrel, Wells Fargo Model? in 45LC for $500.

cxm · Oct 2, 2008

I have compared the italians to the S&W and the S&W seems to be a better gun...

Here is mine:

I bought mine from CDNN when they were clearing the left over guns for S&W... paid about $700 IIRC... list price was $1,499.00.

Chuck

semperfi71 · Oct 3, 2008

moosedog, I own five Uberti S&W clones of which three are Schofields. Two of the Schofields are early Navy Arms, one is a more recent Uberti USA [Stoeger]. The Navy Arms versions are very nicely finished, almost as nice as the "real" S&Ws I have seen. The Uberti/Stoeger is not.

However all of the Uberti S&W clones shoot good enough for plinking and Cowboy Action Shooting. My Uberti .44 Russian will shoot into 2 inches at 25 yards with the Black Hills factory load.

Didn't Smith reintroduce the Model 3 Schofield?

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