Model 640-2 NYPD over run question

bigmtnman · Feb 28, 2010

Although I can find no NYPD type markings on this nice little revolver, after research it appears to be an over run of production for the NYPD. It is a M640-2 .38spl on the .357 mag frame with 2 1/8" full lug barrel and no lock with a satin type finish. Did S&W make this 640-2 in .38 only for general sale, or were these only available due to over run on NYPD production?

Captain38 · Feb 28, 2010

The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, Third Edition, Page 263 indicates that the 640-1 using this frame was introduced in 1996 and that it was RE-INTRODUCED as the 640-2 in .38 Special for the NYPD in 1997.

I'll bet, however, that THAT was the first place you looked BEFORE posting!

DC7 · Feb 28, 2010

640-2

bigmtnman: There were actually two versions of the 640-2. The first had a bead-blast finish and was originally designed for NYPD; the second was a standard commerical model with brushed stainless finish. I believe the product codes were 103800 and 103804 respectively. The Standard Catalog appears to be wrong regarding the introductory dates, because the NYPD 640-2 pictured below was built in late 1995, not in 1997. The standard version (brushed finish) was the one introduced in 1997.

Regarding the NYPD model: There is no special marking on the gun itself, but "NYPD" is printed on the box label under Features.

The label:

The gun:

Hope that helps!

bigmtnman · Mar 2, 2010

Great info....thank you both !

twomoons · Mar 4, 2010

dc7,
if you could be kind enough,i have a 640 no dash matte finish
do you have an idea when this run of guns were made,and were they also special order for the nypd.
thanks for any advice dc7

DC7 · Mar 5, 2010

twomoons said:
dc7,
if you could be kind enough,i have a 640 no dash matte finish
do you have an idea when this run of guns were made,and were they also special order for the nypd.
thanks for any advice dc7

Hello: I wish I could help, but I don't know much about the NYPD no-dash 640. I've got one, but it came without box or papers, and I don't have any other info on it. Another one just sold here in the Classifieds; perhaps the seller might be able to answer your questions:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/guns-sale-trade/123960-wts-640-no-dash-ctc-lg105-carry-package-spf.html

SmithNut · Mar 5, 2010

The factory re-introduced 38 Special versions of the J frame Magnums outside of the NYPD production. Here is a flyer announcing this, can't tell you the date of the brochure as it's not date coded. I believe the bead blast finish, however, may lead one to believe that yours was part of the NYPD over-run production.

allglock · Feb 23, 2011

SmithNut said:
The factory re-introduced 38 Special versions of the J frame Magnums outside of the NYPD production. Here is a flyer announcing this, can't tell you the date of the brochure as it's not date coded. I believe the bead blast finish, however, may lead one to believe that yours was part of the NYPD over-run production.

I just found a 640-2 like the one in the picture, with the 1 7/8" barrel......and yes , by popular demand, I wish them would bring them back......again! With no locks.

allglock · Apr 4, 2012

Does anyone have the pictures that SmithNut posted of the S&W ad about the 640-2 in .38 special?
I though I saved it , but I guess I didnt?

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