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A question for all 3" barrel fans...
Hello All-
It seems safe to say that three inch barrel S&W revolvers, in all their forms, J, K, L & N frames, have a solid & loyal fan base. You might even call it a bit of a "cult" following.
I do not need to be convinced of the benefits & esthetic qualities of 3” S&W wheel guns, as I love them myself. But, I have always had one question regarding them: Why are three inch barrel variants usually special order, special factory run, Performance Center productions or just plain, more uncommon than their 2”, 2 ½” & 4” barreled brothers?
It seems to me, that if you are in possession of the raw materials, skilled personnel & machines that make them, that an ever popular variant need not be made rare. It costs probably just as much to make a 3” barrel as say, a good old 4 incher.
Any enlightenment you can provide would be very much appreciated. Also, please feel free to post pictures of your beautiful 3” Smiths, (I never tire of looking at, what I consider the perfect balance in an S&W revolver…just my humble opinion.
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The individuals on this forum do not represent the buying public. I suspect that the buying public wants the common lengths of barrel. The enthusiasts like on this forum have their own special likes.
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What Steve said above about the standard gun buyer wanting the standard barrel lengths is right on the money.
I believe that many buyers are not even aware that S&W makes a 3 inch model.
I also agree with you that the 3 inch version is probably the best length of all the barrel choices.
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I also agree with you that the 3 inch version is probably the best length of all the barrel choices.
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Except for the 5"!
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Since they are relatively rare and in some cases more expensive than 4" or other standard lengths, a whole lot of potential buyers have no hands-on with 3" S&Ws.
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Does the 3 and a half inch model 27-2 qualify? Here is a pic of mine.
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Good point… I think 3.5” is special enough.
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I never could take a shine to the three inch barrels. I have traded to some but I didn't think they concealed as well as a
2" and I liked to shoot the 4 and 6" ones better. I liked the 2 1/2 barrels. I guess I fall into the group that made the standard lengths more popular.
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Isn't the issue a case of the 3" being the shortest, most concealable length barrel that still has a full-legth ejector rod for complete, positive ejection on tactical / quick reloads? If that's the case I'd think the 3" would be VERY popular, so much so it would be a regular production length and they'd be everywhere.
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I have both a 4 inch and a 3 inch model 66. The 3 inch is a -4 and came from the factory DAO with a bobbed hammer. It is my favorite of the two although it was difficult to find holsters for. I have been extremely lucky in that I located a Gould & Goodrich pancake style holster made for it. I prefer horizontal shoulder holsters for concealed carry and was able to locate a DeSantis made for it. Bought both of them cheap.
I have always had a preference for oddball barrel lengths. Always liked the 3 1/2 inch and 5 inch model 27's. Took in a mint 27 with a 6 inch barrel a while back. Just was not attracted to it like the others so I traded it off pretty quick.
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Isn't the issue a case of the 3" being the shortest, most concealable length barrel that still has a full-legth ejector rod for complete, positive ejection on tactical / quick reloads? If that's the case I'd think the 3" would be VERY popular, so much so it would be a regular production length and they'd be everywhere.
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I've always had the perception that the *extreme* percentage of gun owners do not carry. And I get the feeling that a lot of them don't even shoot all that much. So I don't think that the 3" would be very popular for the reason stated above. There just aren't enough people who would appreciate a 3" for the tactical application.
Those of us who do shoot frequently enough (even tactical shooting), but do not carry, prefer a little more length for the better handling, ime.
There's just not a great market for 3" guns. As far as I can think of.
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Good point… I think 3.5” is special enough.
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I love my 3" Model 65!
Driheat: Please tell us some more about that BEAUTIFUL Uzi!
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I really wish I had me a 3" smith. My dream carry gun is a model 65ls 3". I have a Dan Wesson Valor Bobtail and I would liken a 65ls to the revolver equivalent. If the 65ls wasn't so rare and expensive I would have snatched one up a while ago.
It and a bobtail commander are the perfect comprimize for carry guns.
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3" ers
My "Cult" leader will not allow me to answer your question, but he did say I could post a pic...
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One of my 3 inchers....
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Isn't the issue a case of the 3" being the shortest, most concealable length barrel that still has a full-legth ejector rod for complete, positive ejection on tactical / quick reloads?
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No that is not correct.
2 5/8" is the shortest barrel length that can be fitted with a full length ejector. Here are a few examples of 2 5/8" N-frame snubbies.
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Since they are relatively rare and in some cases more expensive than 4" or other standard lengths, a whole lot of potential buyers have no hands-on with 3" S&Ws.
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Just gorgeous piece. This thread is bad news to my mental state. Too many nice revolvers. Beautifull pics everyone. Now I want a 3" k frame .38 with the round butt.
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Driheat: Please tell us some more about that BEAUTIFUL Uzi!
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Vector HR4332 Mini UZI SMG registered in 9mm, .45 ACP, and .22 lr. Finish is Robar NP-3 (teflon/nickel), Israeli FAB Defense tri-rail, VFG, Israeli bungee single point sling, and a Barrelxchange heavy bolt (tungsten inserts) to slow 9mm ROF from 1000+ to 780 rpm.
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I just went from one extreme to the other. I traded out a 625 3" for a 25 in 8 3/8 ". I have my carry pistol and I had no use for the 625. It was too big to carry and my old eyes didn't like the short sight radius. A 3" revolver is little more than a belly gun and to put target sights, target triggers and hammers on them is dumb.
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I like em too.
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I think the 3" barrel is perceived as "neither fish nor fowl". It doesn't conceal as well as a 1-7/8, 2, 2.5 inch, and for holster carry doesn't offer much if any advantage over a 4".
That's a pity since a 3" barrel is the ideal length for a K-Frame, IMHO.
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I have a 3" 36 and a lew horton 66-3. I like them both, BUT when you reason things out, you pretty much carry a revolver one of three ways. Concealed in your pocket, or on your belt. Also somewhere in your vehicle. If its your pocket a 2" J frame is best. If its on your belt, you can carry a 4" as well. If a car or truck gun you can go 8 3/8" if you wish.
I belive I read where skeeter had a 4 1/2" .44 special and a model 19 made up. To me that would be ideal for a belt gun too. While I especaly like my model 66-3 3" I will admit to look at I think it in 4" might be better looking and balanced. I bought it moreso for all the other extra work the factory done to it. Other than guns, my biggest hobby-activity that I enjoy is a lot of exploring and trail rideing on our ATV here in utah. Again, I can pack any size handgun or rifle on the quad easily. When I pack on me its usualy a snub in my pocket. This is all after haveing to pack on my job for 35 years. I am big and fat. I also need suspenders, big gut and flat ***. For me if I wear a belt gun I really need a large, wide gunbelt. When I wore them on the job it was a 4" and occasionaly a 5".
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Thank you to all who have replied so far to this post. For the record: Yes, IMHO those beautiful 3.5" variants absolutely "count."
Oh...and Mr. Driheat...I chalk-up one more vote for: THAT is one bad-***** UZI!
It makes me wish I lived in a Class 3 State...oh to dream...
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I like my new one pretty well. Wasn't looking for a new gun, but got an offer I couldn't refuse on this one. Just finished shooting it with special loads and I have to say, it feels good:
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For night shooting (esp full house 44 Mag) it relieves you of having to carry a flashlight. In an emergency you can kill you food and start a fire to cook it with
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